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 Ratius wrote:
battle



Sorry Krooty, what is Damnos?


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First is the Librarian
Second duno
3rd is the new chaptain
last one seems to be the stern guard.

Edit: @kroothawk

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 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Yay, I have my budget for the new models!

Zero dollars. Zero. That's what GW will get from me for this crud. GW - you are back to be a publisher. I will grudgingly buy SOME of your overpriced, poor quality books. I will no longer buy every codex that comes out - but only those that are for armies I have and currently am interested in playing. That's it.

Your new units? I will convert them if I want them, ignore them if I don't, and proxy them if I can't.

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 Ratius wrote:
Sorry Krooty, what is Damnos?

The thing on your Damface?

 
   
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 Desubot wrote:
Well they did say at the last? Games day that Black Templar wont be rolled into the SM codex

but o wait look above


It was obvious from the layout of the 6th ed rulebook that Templars were getting rolled into the main SM codex.

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Someone did a whole recap like a page or two back.

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 azreal13 wrote:

But the strawman holocaust in Notts continues apace.
 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
 Ratius wrote:
Sorry Krooty, what is Damnos?

The thing on your Damface?


How is that not OT but our discussion of Romans and Beards was?

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 Kroothawk wrote:
BTW what are these? Sternguard or new Tactical?







The first is the plastic Librarian.
Second I'm guessing is the Sternguard Sergeant,
Third is the plastic Captain
Fourth is Sternguard.


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 OverwatchCNC wrote:
How is that not OT but our discussion of Romans and Beards was?

If you can't see the difference between a one-liner and a page full of discussion of historical facial decoration, I don't really know what to tell you.

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insaniak wrote:
Ratius wrote:Sorry Krooty, what is Damnos?
The thing on your Damface?


I have a lovely Roman nose thank you

But Damnos is akin to the Iyanden supplement correct?

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goobs is all you guys will ever be

By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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North of your position

No, Damnos is a campaign book.

   
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Thanks for the straight answer TNB!

Crons VS Ultras so is it?

Dman137 wrote:
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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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When did they last put out a campaign book?

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It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye. Then it’s fun and games without depth perception. - TSOALR

 azreal13 wrote:

But the strawman holocaust in Notts continues apace.
 
   
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North of your position

Yep. Second Comp Ultras, led by Cato Sicarius, vs. Necrons.

   
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Imperial Deceit wrote:
When did they last put out a campaign book?

Armageddon and Eye of Terror in 3rd edition.

 
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Daba wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Instead of power armor marines wearing power armor, they should have resculpted the whole line to truescale instead and made the marines look like the 8ft tall power armor steroid freaks they are.

But they aren't.

Marines are around 7', and cap out at around 7'6. The 'typical Marine' on the wallchart was 7' in armour. The current marines are true scale. The wacky ones are the Imperial Guardsmen, who were sculpted far too big when the Cadians came out back in 3rd edition. I don't know how big a Tau is meant to be, maybe they're off as well.

Eldar and Orks have similar heights to Marines.


I can't believe that anyone could call the current Marine models "truescale" with a straight face considering they're 4.5 heads tall with gorilla-esque limb proportions. Even next to the comparatively well-proportioned Forgeworld DKoK models, the current Marines are too short, with heads that are far too large even for "heroic" scale, and nowhere near enough bulk in their legs. Hell, even the Forgeworld resin Marines mostly hover around 5-heads tall, and some of them have thinner thighs than the plastics.

As for the "holy wallchart"; it's ancient, what's next, references to the Inquisition War books? Assertions that Space Marines are all drugged-up convicts that go into battle in rainbow-coloured dazzle camo with Biker-dwarf allies?

Vehicles and Xenos are all pretty-much in proportion to the human plastics in terms of height, truescale-bashers can keep living in denial all they like, but the fact of the matter is the odd one out is the Marines.

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Well then, thats a long gap. It will be intersting. Although I don't care for Necrons VS. Marines as that was basically IA 12.

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It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye. Then it’s fun and games without depth perception. - TSOALR

 azreal13 wrote:

But the strawman holocaust in Notts continues apace.
 
   
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Warzones are part of the current Apocalypse book (1 in standard book, another one in limited edition, soon to be released as normal printed version).
This one is about Ultramarines featuring Sicarius and Tigurius vs. Necrons, as featured in the BL novel "Fall of Damnos".

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 insaniak wrote:
 Kroothawk wrote:
BTW what are these? Sternguard or new Tactical?







The first is the plastic Librarian.
Second I'm guessing is the Sternguard Sergeant,
Third is the plastic Captain
Fourth is Sternguard.


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 OverwatchCNC wrote:
How is that not OT but our discussion of Romans and Beards was?

If you can't see the difference between a one-liner and a page full of discussion of historical facial decoration, I don't really know what to tell you.


I see the difference

I still can't tell if that Grav-Combi looks like a Necron gun because of the model or the paint job. I can't wait to see what the fluff is behind the Grav weapons though.

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 Redemption wrote:
Centurions (3 for 78$):
Built as Assault Squad:


Oh, neat! Squats are back!

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 insaniak wrote:
Imperial Deceit wrote:
When did they last put out a campaign book?

Armageddon and Eye of Terror in 3rd edition.


Umm... Crusade of Fire is a campaign book correct?

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 OverwatchCNC wrote:
 insaniak wrote:
Imperial Deceit wrote:
When did they last put out a campaign book?

Armageddon and Eye of Terror in 3rd edition.


Umm... Crusade of Fire is a campaign book correct?


Weren't there two Warzones in the Apocalypse release last month?!

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 Kroothawk wrote:
Warzones are part of the current Apocalypse book (1 in standard book, another one in limited edition, soon to be released as normal printed version).
This one is about Ultramarines featuring Sicarius and Tigurius vs. Necrons, as featured in the BL novel "Fall of Damnos".


This. It will be Necrons and Space marines apocalypse stuff. Probably formations and missions, since I can't see any new models coming out and I definitely can't see GW making rules for models they don't have.
   
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I've been lurking on this thread and I can say that I have mixed feelings on this release.

Love the tank, looks beefy.
Love the Devastator Centurions.

Not a great fan of the rest.

What are the odds that we will be able to make a Terminator based army here?

Terminators and Centurions? Yes please.

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 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Umm... Crusade of Fire is a campaign book correct?
Shows how much I've been keeping up with 6th ed book releases... I had forgotten all about that one already

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Umm... Crusade of Fire is a campaign book correct?
Shows how much I've been keeping up with 6th ed book releases... I had forgotten all about that one already


Your knowledge of 3rd edition Campaign books betrays your longevity anyways.

Not to mention it was forgettable.

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The shooty Centurions aren't too bad, IMHO.

The worst figure by far is that chaplain. Either he takes a terrible photo or they let somebody's kid sculpt his face. Considering all the beautiful chaplain models SM have that's a real let down.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 Ratius wrote:
Wonder how GW will make them harder to kill than normal terminators guessing they will just up the wound count, maybe 3 each?


T5?
Better ++ save (3/4 up?)
Eternal warrior?
T6 1W?

Lots of options open there.

Going for T6 1W imo, similar to Wraithguard. 2+/5++ stays the same.


I'm guessing T5, 3 wounds, 2+ armor, 4+ invuln(iron halo), can fire 2 ranged weapons, and relentless.

Something like 65-70 pts each.


You do realize a Broadside with BS3, 2W, T4, 2+/4++, not relentless, and none of the benefits of being a space marine is 90 points, right?

Then again, this is Cruddace writing the codex, so they're just as likely to be 17 points.
   
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Are those Canadian prices or are they actually going to charge more for this codex?

Because thats not cool man, not cool...

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It'll be a bigger book.
   
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Puscifer wrote:

What are the odds that we will be able to make a Terminator based army here?

Terminators and Centurions? Yes please.


My guess, KN, SW or DA and ally SM in, or vice versa.

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Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

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