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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 17:39:31
Subject: KICKSTARTER BASIUS - Basing Pads UPDATE - WargamesBakery & ZINGE INDUSTRIES Join Forces on Basius!
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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We have a Kickstarter! Basing Pads - for 1000's of unique bases of any size & shape!!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2023606288/bake-your-own-basius-base-pads-for-wargames-and-mi?ref=live
PLEASE have a look as soon as you can and let us know your thoughts about it all.
Our THICK resin Basing Pads are easy to use, easy to look after and easy to store. in fact - we think we may have covered every need that a gamer needs from a product such as this - if we havent then let us know that too
Thanks go to Duke for the nice posting the other week
and thanks go to Mathieu Raymond from Canada too - who kept on asking us to make our stuff worldwide - THESE ARE shipping WORLDWIDE in the Kickstarter!!!
OH and i forgot to mention another thing... They are 20% to 41% Off the MSRP - and have free UK and seriously subsidized International shipping on them all too
Thanks - and we hope you really like our idea!
Dave & Sally Baker - WargamesBakery www.wargamesbakery.co.uk www.wargamesbakery.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 17:47:23
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Lancashire? Kinda curious about this. I'll donate when I'm using a computer with a decent 'net connection
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Camouflage is the colour of fear... I have no need to hide from my foes... I have no fear of death. My colours I wear openly, they proclaim louder than any words, "I am proud to live - I am proud to die" : |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 17:50:26
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Neat stuff! The buy-in for USA is a bit steep though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 17:52:41
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Old Sourpuss
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I can't get to kickstarter from work...
Can I use these to make cookie bases?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 17:55:40
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Alfndrate wrote:I can't get to kickstarter from work...
Can I use these to make cookie bases?
What's a cookie base?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 17:57:35
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Old Sourpuss
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Edible bases, like those edible knickers they make for ladies but for my MAN DOLLIES
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 17:58:51
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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pretre wrote:Neat stuff! The buy-in for USA is a bit steep though.
Its all down to the weight of them - they are HEAVY! Especially when compared to figures etc!
We have set up discounted shipping for each and every pledge level - and its all on the KS - we have discounted it well below the cheapest unrecorded shipping available for this size/weight (for each pledge level)
Alfndrate wrote:I can't get to kickstarter from work...
Can I use these to make cookie bases?
er... possibly - though i would not recommend it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:03:17
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Old Sourpuss
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I looked through your website which has all the basic KS info on it for those that cannot get to KS. I like the idea, I'm with Pretre that shipping would kill it for me though  .
I think it would be cool if someone could do silicone molds where you stuff greenstuff, plaster, resin (probably not that last one) into it and let it set. a silicone mold would allow for someone to make edible bases  .
Don't mind me, I do like your idea though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:04:38
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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WargamesBakery wrote:Its all down to the weight of them - they are HEAVY! Especially when compared to figures etc!
We have set up discounted shipping for each and every pledge level - and its all on the KS - we have discounted it well below the cheapest unrecorded shipping available for this size/weight (for each pledge level)
Fair enough! I hope this works out because they really do look great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:17:12
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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I was totally all for getting one until I saw that I can't. I hope this works so you can A) Get a US distributor, or B) Sell them yourself so US can purchase singles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:18:07
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Is it affordable to do this for basing? It seems like the amount of greenstuff required might make it rather expensive, even though it's DIY...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:19:10
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Old Sourpuss
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RiTides wrote:Is it affordable to do this for basing? It seems like the amount of greenstuff required might make it rather expensive, even though it's DIY...
You could probably do it with Dental plaster ala Hirst Arts Molds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:26:24
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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RiTides wrote:Is it affordable to do this for basing? It seems like the amount of greenstuff required might make it rather expensive, even though it's DIY...
it sure is - its only about 4 pence worth of green stuff per base
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Foda_Bett wrote:I was totally all for getting one until I saw that I can't. I hope this works so you can A) Get a US distributor, or B) Sell them yourself so US can purchase singles.
i don't understand what you mean bud - i am selling them myself - as i made them! the singles shipping cost was more than the single Basing pad MSRP is - getting 4 or more is the only way to get them shipped without doubling their cost! if it was practical to ship singles we would have done (as loadsa people would be after 1) its just not fair to ask you guys to pay £50 for 1 - so we offer 4 for £92 instead. would people like to see 1 up for £50ish?
also - you mentioned that you cant get them - you have a USA icon on dakka - are you not in the USA?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:31:26
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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You can get tons of green stuff on eBay, works out ok cost wise.
And to anyone in the States, Royal Mail are ass hats and decided to extortionately increase their prices for international shipping
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:33:13
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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I would just like to add that as a US based gamer I was also all about supporting this until I saw the US options.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:34:33
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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stubacca wrote:You can get tons of green stuff on eBay, works out ok cost wise.
And to anyone in the States, Royal Mail are ass hats and decided to extortionately increase their prices for international shipping
i didn't say that Mr Royal Mail  honest  , but yeah - he IS right about RM shipping you know...
The other thing its worth noting is that there is NO add on for shipping these pledges - other heavy KS project's UK to US or US to UK shipping adds serious $£$ to the total needed to be pledged etc ... we don't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:45:31
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Old Sourpuss
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The whole thing is that they're nice, they're just extremely cost prohibitive. 50GBP works out to about 79 US dollars for a single basing pad. 4 for 92GBP is almost 150 US dollars (144). So it immediately goes from something "this is a cool project, I'll back it because I feel like I'm getting my money's worth" to "I reaaaaallly have to decide whether or not 4 resin basing pads is worth the cost of 108 bases of various sizes from Secret Weapon Miniatures". It's just too expensive for US backers :-\ With that being said, I do hope that your project succeeds, and I do hope that you can get US distributors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:55:23
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Alfndrate wrote:The whole thing is that they're nice, they're just extremely cost prohibitive.
With that being said, I do hope that your project succeeds, and I do hope that you can get US distributors.
Ah - therin lies the rub as they say - don't think im being grumbley either! cos im not  - thanks for the discussion on this - as your ideas help us think things through.... i guess id say that as a gamer looking for bases you need to ask yourself if you want 108 bases (with many many duplicates) from another company for your army, or if you want every base to be unique - and don't forget - they can make much more than 104 bases (so club with yer mates or gaming clubs to get them). i don't know about you but i have more than 108 miniatures in my collection.  to be honest i need to actually paint my lot before i let myself get any new stuff  or so the missus says  also - with these you can do much more than you can with a resin base (see our KS).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 18:58:45
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I usually don't comment on Kickstarter topics here but this actually does seem like a really good idea. The price for 4 different pads shipped to the USA doesn't seem that bad if I can get 3 of my gaming buddies to split them with me. Do you have any plans to make a "spaceship" type pad? That will be the ultimate selling point for me as I'm planning on basing my army that way to go with my Zone Mortalis board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 19:24:51
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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ephrael wrote:I usually don't comment on Kickstarter topics here but this actually does seem like a really good idea. The price for 4 different pads shipped to the USA doesn't seem that bad if I can get 3 of my gaming buddies to split them with me. Do you have any plans to make a "spaceship" type pad? That will be the ultimate selling point for me as I'm planning on basing my army that way to go with my Zone Mortalis board.
YES .... WE...... DO!!!! but its gotta wait as a stretch goal - as we have not completed the master sculpt yet!!! that and a sulacco one, and a steampunky one, and a and a and a... the missus is telling me to shut up here....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 19:37:47
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm gonna keep a close eye on this one it looks ace. It's nice to see US backers commenting on the P&P it's usually me lol! That's why I rarely back projects from the US now!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 19:50:55
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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This actually looks extremely intriguing, although honestly, I think you're shooting yourselves in the foot a bit with the USA/RoW pricing. I know it's bizarre, but I suspect more people would actually be more willing to pledge for one Pad and pay the shipping out of pocket than to go in for four with heavily discounted shipping included in the price.
I'll probably go in for one or two later in the campaign, but I'll second the request for a spaceship/industrial themed Pad - recessed inspection hatches with pipes and suchlike seem like they'd come out very nicely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 19:58:32
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Yodhrin wrote:
I'll probably go in for one or two later in the campaign, but I'll second the request for a spaceship/industrial themed Pad - recessed inspection hatches with pipes and suchlike seem like they'd come out very nicely.
thanks for the good comments! WRT the above - Id say stick a pound on it now then - as you will get the updates emailed to you during the project - its a good way to stay in the loop
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/12 08:04:11
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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The sulaco...? As in Aliens? Glad I've already donated
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 20:08:06
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Parachuting Bashi Bazouk
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These are really nice, if you did a sci fi one that would be good for Infinity I'd be all over it. I'll be keeping an eye on this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 20:08:07
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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WargamesBakery wrote:
i don't understand what you mean bud - i am selling them myself - as i made them! the singles shipping cost was more than the single Basing pad MSRP is - getting 4 or more is the only way to get them shipped without doubling their cost! if it was practical to ship singles we would have done (as loadsa people would be after 1) its just not fair to ask you guys to pay £50 for 1 - so we offer 4 for £92 instead. would people like to see 1 up for £50ish?
also - you mentioned that you cant get them - you have a USA icon on dakka - are you not in the USA?
I am in the US but to me buying 4 of something I may want 1 of is not ideal for getting something.
I wouldn't mind paying around $50-60US for something like this. I think that not offering the 1 off is silly. Perhaps have a blanket pledge (1-2-3-4 base) levelsand have the shipping tacked on like other kickstarters do?
You can make it so that you don't scare off the few US customers you could get. I find your bases are a TON more detailed that the existing "greenstuff base" examples that have been on kickstarter for the past few weeks.
You could also do things to the sides of the base (if you haven't finalized the molds) for stuff like tire tracks/tank tracks/strafing runs to add just a little extra bang for the money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 20:10:09
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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WargamesBakery wrote: Alfndrate wrote:The whole thing is that they're nice, they're just extremely cost prohibitive.
With that being said, I do hope that your project succeeds, and I do hope that you can get US distributors.
Ah - therin lies the rub as they say - don't think im being grumbley either! cos im not  - thanks for the discussion on this - as your ideas help us think things through.... i guess id say that as a gamer looking for bases you need to ask yourself if you want 108 bases (with many many duplicates) from another company for your army, or if you want every base to be unique - and don't forget - they can make much more than 104 bases (so club with yer mates or gaming clubs to get them). i don't know about you but i have more than 108 miniatures in my collection.  to be honest i need to actually paint my lot before i let myself get any new stuff  or so the missus says  also - with these you can do much more than you can with a resin base (see our KS).
I have 4 40k armies, 4 Warmachine/Hordes Armies, every Malifaux Faction (not every mini mind you), and a few armies from smaller games/games that don't use bases like this. Most of those armies are already based and hand done. The Secret Weapon Miniatures bases were an example because the basing pads have a similar feel to some of the SWM bases I was looking at. I was comparing the cost of 4 of those pads to what I could get from another base maker. I'm not saying your stuff might not be worth the price, it's just not worth the price when there are cheaper, quicker alternatives here in the states. I like your product, I just can't afford to drop 150 dollars on 108 bases or 4 basing pads, which is why I wished you the success of getting distribution here in the states, that way it can become affordable.
Since I can't see the Kickstarter page (just going off of your website), how much is a Brit paying for 1 basing pad?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 20:23:30
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A UK based backer pledges £20 for one pad so probably about $35 (including a bit for CC curreny conversion)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 20:26:46
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Old Sourpuss
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It's currently sitting at 31.50 USD... That's not bad, if someone could get such a thing shipped to me for 15 dollars or so... Then I might be down for it, but 50GBP is just too much, even for one
UGH I feel like a dick for complaining about prices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 20:40:03
Subject: KICKSTARTER - Bake your own BASIUS - Basing Pads for EVERY game type & base size!
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Alfndrate wrote:
It's currently sitting at 31.50 USD... That's not bad, if someone could get such a thing shipped to me for 15 dollars or so... Then I might be down for it, but 50GBP is just too much, even for one
UGH I feel like a dick for complaining about prices.
I hear you bud - i really do - but its Royal Mail.. and their £s... i will think on this more tho...
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