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 sing your life wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:

 sing your life wrote:


Also this thread shows an unacceptable lack of understanding that metal models garuntee more chips than a KFC.

Which is why varnish exists.

You can't allways varnish your fine crap... Er metal miniatures, you know.

Er, what?

Of course you can varnish any miniature.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:

 sing your life wrote:


Also this thread shows an unacceptable lack of understanding that metal models garuntee more chips than a KFC.

Which is why varnish exists.

You can't allways varnish your fine crap... Er metal miniatures, you know.

Er, what?

Of course you can varnish any miniature.

This^^, I never had a model that some how wouldn't take varnish.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:

 sing your life wrote:


Also this thread shows an unacceptable lack of understanding that metal models garuntee more chips than a KFC.

Which is why varnish exists.

You can't allways varnish your fine crap... Er metal miniatures, you know.

Er, what?

Of course you can varnish any miniature.

Not when you are halfway through painting them and have to transport them around, you can't.

 sing your life wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:

 sing your life wrote:


Also this thread shows an unacceptable lack of understanding that metal models garuntee more chips than a KFC.

Which is why varnish exists.

You can't allways varnish your fine crap... Er metal miniatures, you know.

Er, what?

Of course you can varnish any miniature.

Not when you are halfway through painting them and have to transport them around, you can't.

How is this the model fault, you can still varnish it. Not finishing the model before you carry it around is a choose, not a problem with the model.

 sing your life wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:

 sing your life wrote:


Also this thread shows an unacceptable lack of understanding that metal models garuntee more chips than a KFC.

Which is why varnish exists.

You can't allways varnish your fine crap... Er metal miniatures, you know.

Er, what?

Of course you can varnish any miniature.

Not when you are halfway through painting them and have to transport them around, you can't.

And this is a fault of the material how? Your personal preference for using WIP models in games has no relevance to how susceptible a paintjob is to chipping before it's complete.

FWIW, none of my metal models chip in transit in foam. Certainly not the hyperbolic claims certain individuals are making. Unless you're transporting them in a shoebox full of rocks (see, I can do hyperbole too!) the models will be fine.

But I expect all this will warrant out of you is a facepalm.

Hey, didn't you know that 14 year olds (or approximate) know much more about everything than, well, everybody else?!

 Grimtuff wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:

 sing your life wrote:


Also this thread shows an unacceptable lack of understanding that metal models garuntee more chips than a KFC.

Which is why varnish exists.

You can't allways varnish your fine crap... Er metal miniatures, you know.

Er, what?

Of course you can varnish any miniature.

Not when you are halfway through painting them and have to transport them around, you can't.

And this is a fault of the material how? Your personal preference for using WIP models in games has no relevance to how susceptible a paintjob is to chipping before it's complete.

FWIW, none of my metal models chip in transit in foam. Certainly not the hyperbolic claims certain individuals are making. Unless you're transporting them in a shoebox full of rocks (see, I can do hyperbole too!) the models will be fine.

But I expect all this will warrant out of you is a facepalm.

Sadly, the comment about a shoebox full of rocks reminded me of a fellow whose wife allowed their grandson to play with his hand painted etched brass model trains... in the sandbox.

But, on topic... I transport my WiP to places such as my girlfriend's or Burger King all the time - and lead, pewter, resin, plastic, or Bonesium it really does not seem to matter - if the models are stored securely then nothing happens to them.

After painting I give them a double lair of varnish - the second one a dull coat, but even unfinished... I truck them all over heck and gone in a pistol case from Walmart.

The Auld Grump

Finecast more valuable than metal?

Only in bizarroworld.

Sure, it's lighter (so much so that you have to weight the bases even more than plastics to keep them from moving on the table when someone breathes too hard around them).

Sure, it's softer than metal (so the noobs can convert them easier and do even more cack-handed 'conversions' done with entire tubes of gak-in-a-tube) but it still doesn't solve the issues of thin parts and casting (metal or finecast or resin). Floppy sworditis.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

 Skarwael wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Wow... I'd like to see a pic of that. I had also assumed it only happened in hot cars or the like.

We've been having a hot summer in the UK. Well, I say hot... around 30 degrees (celsius) in most parts. Maybe it got abit toasty in his display cabinet?

Not that I'm saying it should've happened anyway. I've never owned any finecast, and won't if I can help it. I, like most people it seems, would choose metal over it any day.

As you noted, not that you were saying this... but clearly it's not OK for a finely cast model to melt in an indoor display case

"Drooping" is not "melting", RiTides.

What were you guys saying?



For me, if the casts were perfect, I'd prefer it over metal for large multi-part models. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work that way. Still, while I'm a fan of metal, I bought a metal LotR Balrog which I foolishly didn't open for a year or two after buying only to find that the two huge halves of the torso section were divergently warped, pretty badly so as to make the model unusable. Being metal, my chances of bending it back without pliers and vice marks and slim to none, so it just sits in it's box as a pile of wasted money.

You really have to make sure you've invested in good storage for your finecast models. especially the models with fine extended parts, and stored in a controlled environment not outside storage.
Of course metal figures not pinned and stored properly get broken up easily too.

 Kelly502 wrote:
You really have to make sure you've invested in good storage for your finecast models. especially the models with fine extended parts, and stored in a controlled environment not outside storage.
Of course metal figures not pinned and stored properly get broken up easily too.

this is stupid. yes, make sure that you buy a "display fridge" before buying any finecast.

I hate metal, it's heavy as hell so will blow into a million parts if you drop it. or even knocking it over on the table can result in damage. it's a pain to glue and an even bigger pain to pin. say what you want but it does indeed chip way easier. ive found the best way to stop chipping is a quickshade layer. personally i use it as an ealier step then work ontop of the quickshade. It's really hard to chip through a quickshade layer even on metal.

finecast is just pure crap.
metal isn't perfect but it's still better than finecast.

 Azazelx wrote:

Looks like a case of projectile (weapon) dysfunction. Maybe some Viagra will sort his weapon out.

One of the reasons I'm still not impressed by Finecast. Maybe if they get the bugs worked out of it. Or pre-drill long pieces so that pins can be inserted into them to hold them up.

 chromedog wrote:

Looks like a case of projectile (weapon) dysfunction. Maybe some Viagra will sort his weapon out.
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I laughed a lot more at that than I probably should have..

What were you guys saying?



For me, if the casts were perfect, I'd prefer it over metal for large multi-part models. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work that way. Still, while I'm a fan of metal, I bought a metal LotR Balrog which I foolishly didn't open for a year or two after buying only to find that the two huge halves of the torso section were divergently warped, pretty badly so as to make the model unusable. Being metal, my chances of bending it back without pliers and vice marks and slim to none, so it just sits in it's box as a pile of wasted money.

My words cannot do justice to this so... Over to Alan Merrett: "These are Citadel miniatures as the designers intended them and I heartily approve!".

Y-yeah, b-but think of how easy it is to convert now...

Also, if you don't varnish your models you have no right to complain when they get damaged, because it's your fault. Pretty much anything you paint is going to need to be sealed somehow, or it'll get damaged easily. Let me guess, do you guys skip priming too, and then complain when your paint doesn't stick to the model?

Daston wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
The only item I would be tempted to risk finecast for would be heavy, large metal models. The hellcannon comes to mind... man, that was a bear to assemble in metal!

But even for that, I simply found an alternative model made in resin, rather than deal with the possible flaws, and the extreme cost, of the finecast model.

Just finished a finecast hellcannon. By far its the worst finecast model I have done. Both side parts were warped and twisted, the wheels were all warped and the gun dosent fit together snug at all.

Spent a day trying to reshape it all. Still isn't as good as I would like, but was a Christmas present from last year so no receipt :(

Well, that sucks... good to know!

Swabby wrote:
So in my online trading I have finally run into someone who absolutely refuses to give me retail to retail trade value based on my trade offering not being made out of finecast even though it is the same sculpt in the older metal version.

Is this a trend or an isolated incident? Are people in the hobby actually at the point where finecast is worth more than plastic or metal?

I wouldn't take a gift of finecast tbh...

 chromedog wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

Looks like a case of projectile (weapon) dysfunction. Maybe some Viagra will sort his weapon out.

Now I have a mental image of his weapon bending the other way.... Must cleanse brain!

The Auld Grump

 chromedog wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

Looks like a case of projectile (weapon) dysfunction. Maybe some Viagra will sort his weapon out.

Holy cow... I laughed so hard I darn near pooped myself! That's awesome.

finecast is going to be phased out, as per GWs announcement...

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
finecast is going to be phased out, as per GWs announcement...

oh gods. what are they replacing it with? Superiair? now with only 10% resin?

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
finecast is going to be phased out, as per GWs announcement...

Where did GW announce that?

Good news though.