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KC you should see one of the supply trucks we get on maneuvers or picking up at an ammo dump. It's literally paradise.

I would imagine! I very nearly hugged the drum. I instantly became Scrooge McDuck but instead of gold, I was swimming in ammo

Just a heads up, the 22LR drought is ending soon.....just forwarding some info from suppliers.......

 Spacemanvic wrote:
Just a heads up, the 22LR drought is ending soon.....just forwarding some info from suppliers.......

Don't make us unleash weiner dogs to give your ankles a thorough thrashing. Any more detail?

 Frazzled wrote:

 Spacemanvic wrote:
Just a heads up, the 22LR drought is ending soon.....just forwarding some info from suppliers.......

Don't make us unleash weiner dogs to give your ankles a thorough thrashing. Any more detail?

Only when I was looking to set retail prices, was told to hold off as supplies would be forthcoming. Cant wait to see what happens to the price gougers.

On a related note, spoke to Walmart Sporting goods manager, they are not allowed to buy the ammo until they are off duty and are not allowed to set any aside for themselves or others. To combat the ones waiting to buy off the pallet, some Walmarts are only unloading half the ammo shipment at 9PM, then unloading the other half again at 7AM in order to reach more customers.

As soon as I find out more info, I will post.....

Looking forward to it.

 Frazzled wrote:
Looking forward to it.

You, me and over 3 million other people.

 Spacemanvic wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Spacemanvic wrote:
Just a heads up, the 22LR drought is ending soon.....just forwarding some info from suppliers.......

Don't make us unleash weiner dogs to give your ankles a thorough thrashing. Any more detail?

Only when I was looking to set retail prices, was told to hold off as supplies would be forthcoming. Cant wait to see what happens to the price gougers.

On a related note, spoke to Walmart Sporting goods manager, they are not allowed to buy the ammo until they are off duty and are not allowed to set any aside for themselves or others. To combat the ones waiting to buy off the pallet, some Walmarts are only unloading half the ammo shipment at 9PM, then unloading the other half again at 7AM in order to reach more customers.

As soon as I find out more info, I will post.....

that split stocking thing makes sense. I've been seeing ammo late at night every time I go into WalMart.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57604113-76/now-youre-a-sharpshooter-the-smart-rifle-arrives/

25K seems a bit steep !

But doesn't that take the fun and relaxation out of it? I mean if you don't get to do everything yourself...I dunno, maybe its just me, but that rifle just wouldn't be as relaxing as a regular rifle.

As I gazed through my rifle's scope, zoomed in on the red-and-white bull's-eye, I thought about Bailey detonating that stinkbug from nearly 100 yards away. The idea of shooting a dime-sized insect at the distance of a football field seemed ludicrous.

Unless you're using a snub nose pistol like my Rhino, you damned well better be able to hit a dime-size target at 100 yards - especially with a scope. Someone get a video of competition shooting and send it to this guy.

Indeed, my regular training was paper plate sized targets at 500 yard with iron sights, and I don't consider myself very good. Sounds like that dude needs to have his mind blown courtesy of a demonstration by the Marine Corps Scout Snipers or Army Sniper teams.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Indeed, my regular training was paper plate sized targets at 500 yard with iron sights, and I don't consider myself very good. Sounds like that dude needs to have his mind blown courtesy of a demonstration by the Marine Corps Scout Snipers or Army Sniper teams.

I'd ask them to blow my mind, but honestly I think that'd just be giving them recourse to literally blow my mind with a bullet, just to prove the point .

Honestly I know this wouldn't happen, but it was the first thought in my head.

I thought that after I wrote it, but decided to let the the unintentional joke stand.

 Breotan wrote:

As I gazed through my rifle's scope, zoomed in on the red-and-white bull's-eye, I thought about Bailey detonating that stinkbug from nearly 100 yards away. The idea of shooting a dime-sized insect at the distance of a football field seemed ludicrous.

Unless you're using a snub nose pistol like my Rhino, you damned well better be able to hit a dime-size target at 100 yards - especially with a scope. Someone get a video of competition shooting and send it to this guy.

Yea like Ive mentioned earlier, Ive shot a few charms suckers with my .22lr at 100yards, and its a 9x scope, nothing special.



Walmart stockers - Just because its policy doesnt mean that they dont do it. My mother in law works at a Kmart and she and everyone other employee does exactly that with anything in the store, even though they have the same policies. Just saying. Though if this rumor IS true, and the .22lr is finally coming back, Im going to be so damned happy!!

lol RE that "smart" gun... i was in the 1/4 dime club when I was 13 years old... grandted that is only at 25 yrds, but it was bolt action, unscoped .22lr with 5 shots in a 1/4 dime (usually lol, not EVERY time)

A dime is .705" in diameter. So a rifle hitting a dime every time at 100 yards is doing .7 MOA...not amazing but not awful at all.

Most shooters don't shoot nearly that well.

Im looking at getting my gun license in the future when ive got some more money and a place to put a safe, here in Oz though no semi-autos for us not even rimfires! im thinking my first rifle will be one of the cheaper savage rimfire bolt action models for target shooting

mitch_rifle wrote:
Im looking at getting my gun license in the future when ive got some more money and a place to put a safe, here in Oz though no semi-autos for us not even rimfires! im thinking my first rifle will be one of the cheaper savage rimfire bolt action models for target shooting

Thats a good start. Dont you guys have caliber restrictions as well?

I believe certain hand gun calibers and 50 caliber for both handguns and rifles, also I think they're trying to ban .338 lapua as well. we've had a spate of gun crime recently, and authorities are clamping down on gun owners, but not the actual criminals obviously as that's far to difficult

Mitch, go into Dingo hunting on the weekend and you can get your class D for fun toys like AR-15s

Are we talking about guns again? Yay!

Here's a quick shot of about half of them. More than happy to answer any questions.

What's that bottom pistol?

Prices in rounds are dropping since DHS are not buying four million rounds to "train" their law enforcement side of the house. Xmas is coming early this year. Checked out a local pawn shop in Bremerton that has a crap load of firearms. Someone also offered me $50 per 30 round mags and I have 36 mags....

It should do fine, but you'll have to clean it more often and Im betting the carbon will be a pita to scrape off. Plus your gas system will probably foul quicker. Also the powder used is pretty corrosive, wouldnt be surprised if it leads to quicker barrel wear.

Not really any dirtier than brass cased in my experience, and in neither case is it really a problem without ridiculous 1000+ rounds no cleaning weekends. Powder isn't corrosive, I have noticed absolutely 0 difference between Wolf powder and XM193 other than a strange ammonia smell when I fire wolf. Barrel wear, however, WILL occur faster. Cheap ammo tends to have bi metal bullets, which are just plain harder than pure copper jackets. It's going to wear faster as a result. But on the other hand, the lower pressure of wolf will give your gas port a break. A worn gas port will start to add more and more power into the system, and can cause reliability issues itself in more extreme cases.

On the other hand, I have noticed that because of steels inability to flex as well as brass, a long string of steel ammo will leave the chamber itself a lot dirtier....and then if you follow it with a brass casing without cleaning, it WILL seal against the chamber extremely well, and attempt to extract all carbon from the chamber when the bolt tries to yank it backwards. You will then have a ripped off case rim and a very fancy looking musket you need a ramrod for before you can fire again.

TL;DR My experience has been the same as the conclusions in this test.

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

 Breotan wrote:
What's that bottom pistol?

Looks like a Glock with a threaded barrel, unless you meant the shotgun.


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 Jihadin wrote:
Prices in rounds are dropping since DHS are not buying four million rounds to "train" their law enforcement side of the house. Xmas is coming early this year. Checked out a local pawn shop in Bremerton that has a crap load of firearms. Someone also offered me $50 per 30 round mags and I have 36 mags....

Still can't find .22lrs. Saw a bunch of 9mm at Academy this weekend.

We are having trouble stocking .380 right at the moment. We are good with 22LR match and 22 mag, and 22 short, still waiting for the shipment of 22LR. All the ARs we are getting in are 1x9, which is annoying, I only go with 1x7 or 1x8.

I did just inspect a 1903 S&W Model 3 in .38 for someone. Nickle plated, barrel has some light rust, and the firing pin doesnt do its thing. Other than that, mint condition. Wish it had the box/papers, would be worth more.

Not really any dirtier than brass cased in my experience, and in neither case is it really a problem without ridiculous 1000+ rounds no cleaning weekends. Powder isn't corrosive, I have noticed absolutely 0 difference between Wolf powder and XM193 other than a strange ammonia smell when I fire wolf. Barrel wear, however, WILL occur faster. Cheap ammo tends to have bi metal bullets, which are just plain harder than pure copper jackets. It's going to wear faster as a result. But on the other hand, the lower pressure of wolf will give your gas port a break. A worn gas port will start to add more and more power into the system, and can cause reliability issues itself in more extreme cases.

On the other hand, I have noticed that because of steels inability to flex as well as brass, a long string of steel ammo will leave the chamber itself a lot dirtier....and then if you follow it with a brass casing without cleaning, it WILL seal against the chamber extremely well, and attempt to extract all carbon from the chamber when the bolt tries to yank it backwards. You will then have a ripped off case rim and a very fancy looking musket you need a ramrod for before you can fire again.

TL;DR My experience has been the same as the conclusions in this test.

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

Thanks for making my point in the above underlined
And in the linked report, this quote makes my point:

Which Ammo To Buy
If Federal Brass Cased Ammo Performed So Great, Why Bother Buying Steel Cased Ammo?
The performance of the carbine firing Federal ammunition in this test was undoubtedly impressive. The firing of approximately 412 pounds of ammunition with very minimal maintenance in austere conditions without a single malfunction – not to mention remaining serviceable and combat accurate from the first shot to the last – could hardly be improved upon. To many who read this report, this is all the justification they need to purchase this type of ammo.

i shoot occasionally but its been hard to get out to the range, between it being so far away and the price/lack of ammo.

 Lemartes12 wrote:
i shoot occasionally but its been hard to get out to the range, between it being so far away and the price/lack of ammo.

I bought a box of Blazer brass ammo in 45ACP this weekend, thinking I was gonna hit the range. She-who-must-be-obeyed had other plans LOL.....maybe THIS weeked....

Now here's a 13yo who doesnt seem to have trouble finding time on the range:

We had three kids at the IDPA competition this weekend. Even children are better then I am. And why exactly are nonthreats a penalty when you hit them? They should have ducked!