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 KingCracker wrote:

 Spacemanvic wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
It also helps that the .45 is typically a much slower round then say the 9mm, which is typically much faster. Add to the fact that the 1911 is a brick, which soaks up more recoil, and you have a .45 that is a pleasure to shoot. Though I dont think the 9mm is bad, because I shoot my brothers .40 often enough to say I really dont like the .40cal round. Now that sucker is a snappy round

What, the 40 Soft n Weak (40SW)? Try a 10MM in a 1911 platform. That sucker ROCKS!

Personally, I think the 10mm is just silly. I held a Glock in 10mm, so whatever number Glock decided to call it and it was just a klunky, uncomfortable mess IMO

That just describes Glock......

I agree that both the .40 and 10mm are just awful (factory) rounds..
might get better with reloading, but never really liked either.

the glock is a blocky, ugly, mofo with a horrible trigger and grip... not sure why every next gen keeps the box ergonomics and that odd trigger, but meh, lots of people seem to like it so cant be all bad I guess...

leaves more M&P's for me!

 easysauce wrote:
I agree that both the .40 and 10mm are just awful (factory) rounds..
might get better with reloading, but never really liked either.

the glock is a blocky, ugly, mofo with a horrible trigger and grip... not sure why every next gen keeps the box ergonomics and that odd trigger, but meh, lots of people seem to like it so cant be all bad I guess...

leaves more M&P's for me!

Do you have an M&P? Whats your accuracy with it? Even with KKM barrel and 1911 style trigger pull, mine just feels less accurate then my much less tweeked Beretta. All I want is a pistol that will win tournaments for me. Is that too much to ask?

Fourth gens are much more comfortable.

yeah I have a MP .45 and lots of EXP with mp 9mm's too,

i can get all the shots inside of 2" at 10 meters(about 14yrds???) if I rest it,
probably better if it was in a vice, using very good handloads however, so you wont get that with factory ammo OFC.
did a home trigger job too to get it to about 5.5-6ilbs from the god awful 8.5 it came as

just picked up a match barrel too which might improve on that

 Seaward wrote:
Fourth gens are much more comfortable.

Well, that is a matter of some debate...

My most comfortable are (not in any order): Beretta 92 with hogue finger grips; old style Kimber with same; 1860 (or 58 I forget) cap and ball revolver. Grip is not as good but it just feels awesome.

 Frazzled wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
I agree that both the .40 and 10mm are just awful (factory) rounds..
might get better with reloading, but never really liked either.

the glock is a blocky, ugly, mofo with a horrible trigger and grip... not sure why every next gen keeps the box ergonomics and that odd trigger, but meh, lots of people seem to like it so cant be all bad I guess...

leaves more M&P's for me!

Do you have an M&P? Whats your accuracy with it? Even with KKM barrel and 1911 style trigger pull, mine just feels less accurate then my much less tweeked Beretta. All I want is a pistol that will win tournaments for me. Is that too much to ask?

Ive shot my brothers M&P40 quite a bit. I do OK with it, I could certainly hit center mass with it at reasonable pistol distances. I dont think its a very accurate pistol though. Granted....that could be because its in .40 and as Ive stated several times in here already, I dont like that round

 KingCracker wrote:
Ive shot my brothers M&P40 quite a bit. I do OK with it, I could certainly hit center mass with it at reasonable pistol distances. I dont think its a very accurate pistol though. Granted....that could be because its in .40 and as Ive stated several times in here already, I dont like that round

I concur. I have 2 different friends that tried to sell me on it as it's their DC 'sand they likes it a lot, but I found it was a very jerky round, unpleasant to shoot for long periods of time for both Glock and M&P. I found that in an XDM this was slightly mitigated but overall did not like the caliber at all.

My glock may be ugly, but I love it,

Ditto on the glock love. Its really nothing special, but the thing really just works so well with me with minimal effort.

Glock is just another word for a plastic brick...

Knockagh wrote:
Yanks are mad! I'm a farmer I have a shotgun for vermin and a 22 rifle for shooting the odd thing I can't get close enough to. Don't really think anyone should be allowed anything more than what they need to do a specific job. They are dangerous little brutes afterall!!

Our obligation (job) is to prevent the takeover of tyrannical government and foreign invaders, and you simply can't do that with a bolt action rifle or a limited capacity limp-noodle magazine.


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 KingCracker wrote:
Speaking of .357 magnum. Ive fallen inlove with this beauty from S&W but sadly its over $1000. Though its an 8shot revolver!

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765757_-1_757783_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Check out S&W's Performance Center 327 5" barrel. Similar price point but nicer IMO. That goofy rail adds an ounce to the thing and you'll probably never use it.

(Notional) Our obligation (job) is to prevent the takeover of tyrannical government and foreign invaders, and you simply can't do that with a bolt action rifle or a limited capacity limp-noodle magazine.

Fixed it for you. Then again I'm sure DakkaDakka is well known in the NSA....just to be on the safe side for you Nuggz 8)

Can you imagine the BBQ we would have is we all got together with our weapons? Minus the alcohol at first till after the shooting is done and we're weapon cleaning

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
That goofy rail adds an ounce to the thing and you'll probably never use it.

Scope.

 Breotan wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
That goofy rail adds an ounce to the thing and you'll probably never use it.

Scope.

But... the rail is under the barrel?

Who on earth is going to put a laser sight or a tac light on a revolver? I'm pretty sure 8 rounds of .357 magnum eliminates the need for any modifications whatsoever.

Ouze - A thought had occurred to me about your 1911 failing to feed problems. I was watching a NutNFancy video on a Saiga .308 rifle he was reviewing and he started mentioning that the rifle works really well, IF you have a set of mags that work well in it. Because he had a couple mags that just didnt want to function in the rifle, and they did exactly what you are talking about, they would fail to feed the rounds several times. Then when he switched to different mags, the rifle worked flawlessly. Sooo maybe its a bad magazine?

Im going to assume you have more than 1 magazine, have you noticed that the problems occur more with 1 mag over the other? Its a simple fix and cheaper than many other options Something to think about anyways


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 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
That goofy rail adds an ounce to the thing and you'll probably never use it.

Scope.

But... the rail is under the barrel?

Who on earth is going to put a laser sight or a tac light on a revolver? I'm pretty sure 8 rounds of .357 magnum eliminates the need for any modifications whatsoever.

Well a flashlight so you can see terrorists in the dark of course. But apparently the revolver was made for SWAT teams. The guy with the shield typically carries a semi auto and the shield, problem being that entering doors is a tight spot, and they catch the slide or levers on the slide in the door frames causing problems. So S&W came up with this design and 8 rounds (because the SWAT wanted something that can compete with the 1911) So Im sure thats why it has a rail.


Sounds good anyways

Yeah good mags for the 1911 platform are essential. Chip McCormick power mags or Wilson Combat mags. Accept no substitutes.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Yeah good mags for the 1911 platform are essential. Chip McCormick power mags or Wilson Combat mags. Accept no substitutes.

I got lucky.

LGS had a bag of 8 KimPro Tac Mags that they set aside for me for $50. They are very reliable, fall free on ejection and feed without issue. Also come with bumpers. Add that with my CMC mags and the two mags that came with the 1911, Im up to 13 mags. Still looking for one more

I have four CMC mags, two power mags and two of the "Star" mags, then I have my "range " mag that came with the gun. It is a very odd design and I dislike it immensely.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I have four CMC mags, two power mags and two of the "Star" mags, then I have my "range " mag that came with the gun. It is a very odd design and I dislike it immensely.

Have you had luck with extended mags?

Define extended? I used the 8 round mags pretty much exclusively but I haven't messed with larger then that.

I have had 0 isues with my norinco 1911, with cheap surplus GI style mags, or with the fancy 10 round entention ones,

if its not mags,
maybe a burr on the feed ramp frazz?

you using factory or handloads?
upside down recoil spring plug?

I think you're referring to someone else? I've no issues with actions currently.

 Frazzled wrote:
I think you're referring to someone else? I've no issues with actions currently.

whoops, i was talking to ouze,

blah.... thats what i get for early mornign posting

Here is a shot of my Mosin and I at dusk.

Please don't attach non wargaming images to Dakka, you need to use off site hosting and image tags if you wish to share any such images.

Cool pic though.

Reds8n

Is that a still from a video camera, or did you take that with a snap shot?

...Ooh crap puns.

easysauce wrote:if its not mags,
maybe a burr on the feed ramp frazz?

you using factory or handloads?
upside down recoil spring plug?

Using factory rounds, I've seen a few issues. At least one FTE and a few times now a failure to return completely to battery (or lock open after the last round in the mag, though this seems to have stopped after the first 100 rounds). I'm using both the factory mag and 2x Chip McCormick Powermags. The last failure was with one of the Chips, so probably not the mags.

I'm going to try replacing the extractor and see if that works. If not, I'll send it in under warranty. The feed ramp came polished from the factory but they did so... sort of poorly. I'm disinclined to polish it myself because I'm afraid to void the warranty if I screw it up somehow. This model is known to have iffy extractors so that's probably what it is, I ordered an Ed Brown hardcore.

I also just had one of those iron spinning targets delivered. I can't wait to try it out this weekend if I get some time, the little clink they make just... delights the gak out of me. I don't know why.

Dogface 76 wrote:Here is a shot of my Mosin and I at dusk.

What a great picture.

 Dogface 76 wrote:
Here is a shot of my Mosin and I at dusk.

Epic!!! Is that a m44? I never shot mine at dusk. Closest I got was shooting in the Ocala Forest range on a muggy, kinda rainy day. You could hear the fireball cooking the moisture in the air.

The photo was taken with a Digital camcorder. It is an M44 stamped 1944 with ,i believe, Factory, Division, and regimental cartouches. I had to show everyone at a party just how crazy the muzzle blast from a M44 was. They were duly impressed.

I forgot, I had wanted to add some pictures.



I've changed the grips to Pachmayr, added an EFK Fire Dragon compensator, and swapped the slide release to a Wilson Combat extended (the stock one really is a little too small IMO). There are some other things I want to do, but I'm waiting to see how things shake out after the extractor swap before I do any more.