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This note does say that it will be difficult and that they should add armoured fist squads for this, yes.

But nowhere does it says that the Battle Tanks squadrons of the list doesn't score.

Find me where in the IA1 second edition does it says something like" although the battle tanks squadrons are troops choices, they can't hold objectives...", i don't see it.

it says it will be difficult, because vehicles can be more easely destroyed then troops units, and thus it will bemore difficult to hold the objectifs, not that the LR in troops can't take them.

Also the bit in the BRB about vehicles never be scoring is about transports vehicles taken has dedicated transports for troops units.

Now vehicles can't effectively deny objectives, that doesn't change.

Rulebook pg.123, vehicles never score unless a rule says they do.
The IA book not giving them such permission means they follow the normal rules.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

Also the bit in the BRB about vehicles never be scoring is about transports vehicles taken has dedicated transports for troops units.

No it isn't, because the statement in question makes a specific distinction between vehicles and dedicated transports.

Page 123:

"There are a few exceptions, however, when a unit of troops does not count as a scoring unit:

- if it is a vehicle, or is a unit currently embarked on a Transport vehicle."

That it goes out of its way to specify between vehicles and dedicated transports rules out the notion that it is referring only to dedicated transports. The rule is quite clear. A troop choice that is a vehicle can not be scoring.

Well thats a bummer.

A lot of splitting hair for nothing i guess.

 Peregrine wrote:

xruslanx wrote:
Not to everyone. Also if armoured battlegroups were in the main codex they could nave access to scoring units, warlord traits, maybe even vehicle-mounted relics.

The ABG list in IA1 has these things already. All it needs is for GW to say "STFU you idiots, FW is part of the game and you're TFG if you won't accept it".


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 Sir Arun wrote:
i think IA 1 is outdated.

Nope. It's a current 6th edition list with warlord traits/HP/etc. It will probably need updating soon when the new codex arrives, but for now it's just fine.

There are plenty of reasons that people wouldn't want to play against an armoured battlegroup list. Please don't lable such people as 'idiots'.

Also, it was my understanding that armoured battle groups couldn't score, since that fact gets forced down our throats whenever forgeworld is bought up.

I think we're done here until we get some more solid rumours or information.