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Just £298 away from unlocking stretch goal number 25, "The Terror of Morocco", the Finnish hero Aarne Edward Juutilainen. Then it is on to stretch goal #26, the KhT-130 Flamethrower tank.

Just over 61 hours left.


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Stretch goal #25, 'The Terror of Morrocco' has been unlocked.

Now the flamethrower tank, the KhT-130, is stretch #26 @ £44,000.

Just over 52 hours left.

I'm in. I've been wanting to play Bolt Action, and trying to decide what faction to get some models for. This Kickstarter has given me the answer. It's too good of a deal to pass up. For around $100 (after currency conversion), I can get a full Bolt Action force, with plenty of options.

I think I'll get one platoon of each side, exchange a couple of the stretch add-ons for an extra rifle squad for each side, and add on a Company Command for each side. For 130 pounds, or about $210, this should give me enough for two platoons for each side, which I think would allow using more of the vehicles and other options, since some of them are limited in Bolt Action to a certain number per platoon. And I'll have opposing forces, so I can get a game in with someone who doesn't have their own models.

What are other people getting? Any other suggestions for add-ons or stretch goal swaps?

@Albino - I've been keeping track of what the reward levels are and it works out that now for each Platoon (without swapping any units)(these are not official BakerCompany.com figures just my numbers only) you will get the following:

Soviet

Platoon ................................44..... (£55)
Snipers ..................................4..... (£5)
Medics & Casualties ...........4..... (£5)
Mortar & five crew .................5..... (£7)
HMG & 5 crew ........................5..... (£7)
Artillery & 5 crew ....................5..... (£16)


B-10 Armoured Car ...................(£22)
T-26 Light Tank ...........................(£22)
T-26 Twin Turret ..........................(£22)
Truck & AA Gun....................2..... (£22)
Aerosan ................................1..... (£22)


Tank riders & crews......................10..... (£12)
Engineers ......................................12..... (£20)
Commissars & Standard ..............3..... (£5)
Snow Camoflage Troops ..............8..... (£10)
Artillery Observers ...........................3..... (£5)
Field Kitchen ....................................5..... (£22)
Casualty markers ...........................4..... (£5)

So for the Soviets that is a total of 116 figures plus equipment plus vehicles, worth circa. £284 retrail.


Finnish

Platoon ...................................38.....(£50)
Jaeger skis ...........................10.....(£15)
Snipers ....................................4.....(£5)
Tank Hunters...........................4.....(£5)
Medics & casualties...............4.....(£5)
Mortar & 5 crew........................5.....(£7)
HMG & 5 crew..........................5.....(£7)
AT gun & crew..........................5.....(£10)
Light Horse...............................6.....(£24)
Bicycles...................................10.....(£35)
Artillery & 5 crew.......................5.....(£16)


Truck & AA Gun.........................2.....(£22)
Aerosan......................................1.....(£22)


Anti-Tank Rifles.........................4.....(£5)
Engineers................................12 .....(£20)
Model Cajander........................8......(£10)
Artillery Observers....................3......(£5)
Field Kitchen.............................5.....(£22)
Casualty markers....................4.....(£5)

So for the Finnish that is a total of 135 figures plus equipment plus vehicles, worth circa £290 retail.

For a £60 investment in either it seems like a good return to me.

Notes
1. The AA Truck and gun has 2 crew or a Transport truck can be chosen instead where you get I think it is 6 seated figures.
2. I am not sure of the number of crew for the Aerosan so because Gavin has mentioned crew specifically I have listed it as one figure.

The next few stretch goals are add-ons:

Stretch goal #26 - £44,000 - KhT-130 Flame thrower tank
Stretch goal #27 - £46,000 - Finnish Colonel Mannerheim
Stretch goal #28 - £48,000 - B20 Armoured Car
Stretch goal #29 - £50,000 - Vickers-Armstrong 6-tonne tank

Following these stretch goals I have no idea what Gavin has as surprises for us (although I hope at stretch goal #30 it is the Komsomolet - fingers crossed).

Anyway hope this helps, and if there are any discrepancies between my spread sheet and that of Baker Company I am sure they will be slight and of course it will be my figures that are wrong.

Just over 45 hours left. Roll on November.

Thanks alot for these incredible details!

Yeah thanks alot for that breakdown.

I'm still on the fence for this one. The only historical I've gotten into is Bolt Action. How would a platoon level pledge here work out in terms of minis for the game for each side? I do have the Bolt Action 1,000 pt army box already, so I'm concerned about duplicates as well as units that are not fieldable.

But I have no Fins, and they look like a cool force. Here my concern is units that are not fieldable.

I just don't want to end up with guys that I can't play with.

@Phobos - This has been discussed quite extensively in the comments of the kickstarter which rather than try and post different options here I will take the easy way out out ( ) and point you to if I may.

The link is:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1030835091/winter-war-wargaming-miniatures/comments

(Scroll down a couple of pages and you should see some listings of Finnish set-ups)

The platoon with stretch rewards will give you several options of 1,000 point Finnish armies.

I know Gavin has listened to suggestions from both BA and CoC players and made changes when necessary so that both can field the units required.

Hope this helps

Thanks very much.

I went in for a platoon of Fins for sure.

@Phobos - glad you joined, I think you have made a great choice in getting the Finns.

Coming up to the last full day of this kickstarter (actually just 28 hours as I write this). At the moment there are 363 backers of the Winter War campaign kickstarter, I would imagine that will very easily exceed 400 by the time it finishes.

I joined on day 2 and have been amazed at how friendly and helpful everyone has been, become a real community spirit evolve amoungst the backers, almost as if 'we' became a club by ourselves, and poor old Gav has had to put up with suggestions left, right, and center (many of which he has actually taken account of and changed things so that both BA and CoC rules could be thoroughly used - good on him).

Well stretch goal #26 got unlocked last night, that is the KhT-130 Flamethrower tank and only £752 away from unlocking stretch goal #27 and perhaps the true architect of Finlands valiant defence the figure of Colonel Mannerheim. That then only leaves 2 currently listed stretch goals to go, the BA 10 armoured car and the Vickers-Armstrong 6 ton tank. Then who knows what? (Well apart from Gavin of course. )

If things do develop over the comming few hours I will try and post them on here to let everyone know what the latest state of play is but my posts may well become appended to each other so please keep checking back regularly.

If anyone has any questions I will try and help and if I cannot answer them I will put them on the comments section of the kickstarter and get a reply ASAP for you from someone who knows the answer.

I gave in and jumped on a platoon of each yesterday.

This breaches my good resolve this year which has seen more miniatures painted than purchased and gives me another project to tackle finding rules, decent historical guides and scenery for. It was just too good a deal to not jump on and is an interesting conflict I'd like to spend the time getting to know more about.

Plus I have a pot of snow flock just sitting mostly unused since I pretty much finished my Falklands Brits - that almost justifies it alone no?

Now to find a Hertfordshire-based historicals friendly club.

Glad to have you with us Richred, hopefully we will be able to find you some opponents to battle against pretty soon.

Well the kickstarter has entered the final 24 hours, I would imagine that this will see the total rise above £50,000 (that's $80,000), which is not bad at all for a small company running their first kickstarter. Mind you it has been run excellantly by Gavin, and the rewards at Platoon level have become amazing.

Next stretch goal is less than £500 away.




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Well stretch goal #27, Colonel Mannerheim, is now unlocked, and the next is the BA-20 armoured Car.

Also stretch goal #30 has just been announced:-

Komsomolets - complete new vehicle. Perfect for pulling your artillery, AT gun or field kitchen. Will come with crew and passengers for either army. :

Oh, and just over 21 1/2 hours to go.


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Stretch goal #28, the BA20 Armoured Car is unlocked.

Next stretch, #29, is the Vickers-Armstrong 6 ton tank, at £50,000, hear it coming?

Then my personal favourite (and I have absolutely no idea why ), stretch #30, the Komsomolets at £54,000.


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The Vickers-Armstrong tank is unlocked.

Now full steam ahead for stretch goal #30, the Komsomolets.

Only 12 hours to go on this extremely fine KickStarter.

Join it now, while you still can, you know you want to :-)

OK, I'm hitting the sack for a few hours. So the latest update is that the total is already at over £51,000 and still climbing with 11 hours to go, looks like the Komsomolets will be in next, and we may yet get another stretch goal from Gav later this morning (fingers crossed).

Looks like Winter War is going to be played around the world very soon.


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With just under 5 hours to go stretch goal #30, the Komsomolets are just £672 away.

You get an insane amount of models for both sides.

I went in at the £120 mark. That's a heck of a deal for two all metal armies, and it pretty much has every option you could think of for a bolt action army. Yeah its money I didn't really have but worst comes to worse I can sell a few minis I don't need later.

Plus, I can run scenario games at the store with both sides and it would be a blast. If these models are even halfway decent this will have been one heck of a deal

Gav has introduced new stretch goals,

#30 is now Red Army Hero Commander Shmagrin at £53,000 (which is already now unlocked)

#31 is the Komsomolets at £54,000

#32 is now Finnish Bofors Anti Tank Gun and crew.

The day is getting better and better.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
You get an insane amount of models for both sides.

I went in at the £120 mark. That's a heck of a deal for two all metal armies, and it pretty much has every option you could think of for a bolt action army. Yeah its money I didn't really have but worst comes to worse I can sell a few minis I don't need later.

Plus, I can run scenario games at the store with both sides and it would be a blast. If these models are even halfway decent this will have been one heck of a deal

It's comments like yours that have finally chipped away at any consumer resistance I had left and see me signing up with four hours to go.

I was inclined towards this anyway as the Finnish-Russian War has fascinated me ever since I first learned of it aged about 10 years old. Its just that "We will not just roll over" attitude displayed by the Finns. I've also been lucky enough to spend a week with the Finnish Army cavorting over the terrain involved and I'm glad it wasn't winter!

Komsomolets are unlocked! :-)
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Less than £2,000 for the Finns Bofors AT Gun. :-))

There is now only two hours to go on the KickStarter, so catch it while you can. You know you will kick yourself when you end up buying this at full retail value :-)

This is an absolutely great KickStarter. It is really good value, and is based on an interesting and unusual campaign which it will be fun to game. Baker Company are a friendly and responsive creator.

The KickStarter Everything you need to play – figures, guns, vehicles, tanks, scenary and buildings – for two of the most popular rule sets (Bolt Action and Chain of Command) – and army lists have just been published for both.

Recently added are the BA-20 armoured car, Vickers Model E 6-ton tank, the KhT-130 flamethrower tank, and Komsomolets tractor. The Bofors 37mm Anti-Tank gun is the last remaining stretch-goal to unlock.

Check it out. I know once you do you will want to back it! :-)

Stretch goal #32, Finns Bofors AT Gun now unlocked.

Final hour

back now or loose out

I want... I guess I should... but I can't :(

@Ronin - if you could even a small pledge that would get you the opportunity to buy from the post-kickstarter survey and that would get you the associated stretch goal rewards if you went for a Platoon in that survey.

Just an idea. Hope it helps

Mmmhh.. that's actually not such a bad idea

Are you 100% sure that I can add more money/pledges after the end of the project?

Edit: Found it myself.

Glad to have helped.


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Just a final post to say that the project ended at £57,021 of funding (that at todays exchange rates is over $91,800).

Really glad I caved in and joined this KS - now can anyone point me to a decent beginner's history for the Winter War - Osprey sort of level?

Hi Richard,

Try 'Finland at War 1939-45', No. 141 of the Elite series by Osprey. It covers the Winter War (1939-40), the Continuation War (1941-44) against the Soviet Union and the Lapland War (1944-45) against Germany.

A great little introduction IMO.

Disappointed to have missed out on this. Why did I dither!!!

I'll get a mod to move this over into the Misc Mini Games section now)

I'd urge those who backed to keep the thread updated as stuff starts to arrive

hope everybody enjoys their forthcoming toys

Really kicking myself that I didn't add an extra 10pounds for the bofors gun. I went to sleep before it unlocked. At least I remembered to add 6 so I can get the T26 flamethrower turret.

Also, how on earth does a kick starter like this make money? If the one guy's estimate is right, I've bought between 3-400 £ worth of models for a 120.

Is it just a way to get the molds paid off quicker or something?

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Really kicking myself that I didn't add an extra 10pounds for the bofors gun. I went to sleep before it unlocked. At least I remembered to add 6 so I can get the T26 flamethrower turret.

Also, how on earth does a kick starter like this make money? If the one guy's estimate is right, I've bought between 3-400 £ worth of models for a 120.

Is it just a way to get the molds paid off quicker or something?

I think you can add unlimited extra packs in the post ks survey so it shouldn't be a problem just add £10 for the Bofors ( I think that's the price).

I kind of hope you can add additional 60 quid deals in the survey - that'd be good