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Honestly, all I care about will be the minis, anything else good is a nice bonus.



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An experience system wouold be cool. Humans are squishy compared to a predator, so yeah, the humans would probably not see a bunc of "level ups"...

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 BrookM wrote:
Honestly, all I care about will be the minis, anything else good is a nice bonus.
Ultimately, I agree. But since we're here ...

   
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 BrookM wrote:
Honestly, all I care about will be the minis, anything else good is a nice bonus.


Definitely agreed. And lots of skirmish games work perfectly well without an advancement/levelling system, it can add an extra bit to an already good system, but isn't a substitute for one.

I'd be much more hopefully about a good, balanced system that follows the original alien movies in terms of the alien/marines comparative ability.

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I would much rather have the models correctly scaled for their universe than messed around to fit into somebody else's -especially with the quality of stuff Prodos have shown for their other products.

I have shown the teaser shots to several non-gamers who are into Aliens or Predators and all have expressed keen interest in a potential KS project. (Which I assume this will be)

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As someone who plays Malifaux and will eventually play the new Robotech minis game, I have literally zero interest in these being compatible with other lines. I can appreciate that some might have a desire to use them as proxies, sure, but count me among the "remain internally consistant, frak the rest" votes.

That said, considering that a little tweaking might allow said figures to be used in other games, which could be a financial boon, I wouldn't fault them for a little tweaking either.

Regardless, I'm intrigued and will keep an eye out for this as it develops.
   
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 Forar wrote:
That said, considering that a little tweaking might allow said figures to be used in other games, which could be a financial boon, I wouldn't fault them for a little tweaking either.

That's what I meant. Keep in mind that even GW decided against true-scale Space Marines and it didn't seem to have hurt sales.

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 14th broklyn wrote:
From the conversation I had with with someone unnamed at Prodos I can tell they will not do anything without a proper license and would do nothing to threaten said license



Confirmed.


This is great news!

No really, this is awesome!

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 Forar wrote:

That said, considering that a little tweaking might allow said figures to be used in other games, which could be a financial boon, I wouldn't fault them for a little tweaking either.


Assuming the models are 28mm scale, and therefore Predators should be 33mm or so, and they instead make Predators shorter at 28mm so the one guy who would buy them as Ork proxies will be happy, then I'll just buy Predastore Predators instead. Pretty simple.

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 judgedoug wrote:
 Forar wrote:

That said, considering that a little tweaking might allow said figures to be used in other games, which could be a financial boon, I wouldn't fault them for a little tweaking either.


Assuming the models are 28mm scale, and therefore Predators should be 33mm or so, and they instead make Predators shorter at 28mm so the one guy who would buy them as Ork proxies will be happy, then I'll just buy Predastore Predators instead. Pretty simple.


I would suggest that this is a strong enough license to not need to worry about being another companies proxie.

If you really want your IP to stand out then don't impair your designs by trying to fit someone else's IP.

This is a range I am very excited about. I hope it will stand by the strengths of it IP.
   
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An experience system would be a good thing and allow marines to grow as well as aliens, which allows them to mingle with other species which lead to pred/aliens, water/aliens etc from the graphic novels.

Maybe even a wargame+experience sstem so with a kickstarter working on both as easily do-able.

Experience system could expand system to open up new areas of game play and appeal to other gaming styles and gaming groups expanding business opportunities and franchises.

Just think all the tanks and APC's from the films >

If were talking scale, humans, 28mm as are drone aliens as hunched, Heavy armour suited would be 30mm. Warrior aliens, Heavy armour suited marines and Preds would be 28 to 32mm.

Scale would be nice to at least show some thought to the game, as do not need like 40k marines being 7-8ft tall, same size as a standard human look.

   
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all I care about is film-canon only. Perhaps with the extra bits from the Colonial Marine Technical Manual.

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I think it's clear this range covers more than that.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
I think it's clear this range covers more than that.


Sure, but that's what I'm focusing my love and dollars on. My childhood dreams come to fruition!!
Also, fingers crossed for Aliens-style aliens, with ribbed domes.

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I really hope this goes for some of those crazy Kenner Xenomorph designs. There were some really cool ones in there, like the flying queen and the snake types. Marines will hopefully be lifted from the technical manual and the side scrolling Capcom beat 'em up. The Predators I couldn't care less about, though I wouldn't mind if they made that samurai one that Hot Toys designed a year or so ago.

   
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Actually.. I would still rate those higher than that film!

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Hrm... those do like they could be used as 40k orks with their "heroic" scaling!

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I really hope this goes for some of those crazy Kenner Xenomorph designs. There were some really cool ones in there, like the flying queen and the snake types. Marines will hopefully be lifted from the technical manual and the side scrolling Capcom beat 'em up. The Predators I couldn't care less about, though I wouldn't mind if they made that samurai one that Hot Toys designed a year or so ago.

I loved the flying queen. Maybe they'll make one of those hopefully. It was awesome.

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Just launch the damn thing already!!!

 
   
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I'm in... I love AVP i used to read allAliens, Predator and AVP the Books from Darkhorse. very cool.
   
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 kendoka wrote:
We play Aliens vs Colonial Marines vs Predators in a 3D Space Hulk setting (using slightly modified SH rules).
Works rather well.

The minis we use are mostly Copplestone and old GW (Colonal Marines) and Horrorclix Aliens/Predators.

I would definitely prefer biggish Predators for this KS.


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 judgedoug wrote:
all I care about is film-canon only. Perhaps with the extra bits from the Colonial Marine Technical Manual.


The Colonial Marines Technical Manual is an amazing book. If some of the additions from that make it into the new game, I'll be pretty excited.

Other than that, though, it all depends on the medium and the price. I'm going to put in an order for some Warzone troops, probably Brotherhood, to test this ProCast material out before I pledge anything. If it's a great material, then I'll be much more excited. Of course, if the alien or marine models come to $5 per mini, it might make it a bit difficult for me to amass a horde.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
all I care about is film-canon only. Perhaps with the extra bits from the Colonial Marine Technical Manual.


The Colonial Marines Technical Manual is an amazing book. If some of the additions from that make it into the new game, I'll be pretty excited.

Other than that, though, it all depends on the medium and the price. I'm going to put in an order for some Warzone troops, probably Brotherhood, to test this ProCast material out before I pledge anything. If it's a great material, then I'll be much more excited. Of course, if the alien or marine models come to $5 per mini, it might make it a bit difficult for me to amass a horde.


I'm hoping they're that cheap! I'm preparing to pay Mierce-level prices for (hopefully) Mierce-level sculpts. I wouldn't mind paying $10 per mini if they are excellent.

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 judgedoug wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
all I care about is film-canon only. Perhaps with the extra bits from the Colonial Marine Technical Manual.


The Colonial Marines Technical Manual is an amazing book. If some of the additions from that make it into the new game, I'll be pretty excited.

Other than that, though, it all depends on the medium and the price. I'm going to put in an order for some Warzone troops, probably Brotherhood, to test this ProCast material out before I pledge anything. If it's a great material, then I'll be much more excited. Of course, if the alien or marine models come to $5 per mini, it might make it a bit difficult for me to amass a horde.


I'm hoping they're that cheap! I'm preparing to pay Mierce-level prices for (hopefully) Mierce-level sculpts. I wouldn't mind paying $10 per mini if they are excellent.


Seeing as this is likely (i think???) to be skirmish based even $10 a mini (and maybe $30 or so a faction set) would be perfectly reasonable.

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$10/mini would not be reasonable for 28mm. Whether we're talking about a skirmish game or not is immaterial. Although GW must love you.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
$10/mini would not be reasonable for 28mm. Whether we're talking about a skirmish game or not is immaterial. Although GW must love you.


Depends on your view, $10 works about £6.50 or so if i recall, which would put it on par with a game like Infinity in terms of price. Still steep, but provided it's good quality and you only need a few it's a small grumble.

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Take a look at the Warzone prices. They are high but not that high.

   
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Manchu wrote:$10/mini would not be reasonable for 28mm. Whether we're talking about a skirmish game or not is immaterial. Although GW must love you.

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Manchu wrote:Take a look at the Warzone prices. They are high but not that high.

To be fair, the AvP licence should be worth a bit more than the Warzone licence.

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