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 Troike wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Are female characters only allowed to be depicted as musclebound tomboys that wear massive armour in combat and baggy casual clothes out of it now?

Nobody said that. Speaking for myself, my issue with it was that an exposed torso is not a great idea for going into combat. Especially against nefarious, tricky xenos.

Bare thighs, too. Please, gribblies, feel free to slash at my major arteries, they are unburdened by clothing

ClockworkZion wrote:I think it only looks like boob window because of the cape actually.

So, is massive cleavage with every other part of the body covered describe it better ? And does it makes it better in any way ?

ClockworkZion wrote:IIRC there have been some Inquisitors who dress to impress in the past, and others who dress to keep a low profile.

And this kind of clothes achieve neither.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:I think it only looks like boob window because of the cape actually.

So, is massive cleavage with every other part of the body covered describe it better ? And does it makes it better in any way ?

It simply makes referring to it as a 'boob window' incorrect. No excuses or anything.

I have more of an issue with it looking like the Inquisition threw up on her than a boob window.

I count no less than 7 =I=...

 Dr Mathias wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:I think it only looks like boob window because of the cape actually.

So, is massive cleavage with every other part of the body covered describe it better ? And does it makes it better in any way ?

It simply makes referring to it as a 'boob window' incorrect. No excuses or anything.

Pretty much this. It was just me commenting on something I noticed.

Frankly with how flying rodent gak insane 40k as a whole can be getting bent out of shape on what one person is wearing in a bit of art seems a little silly to me. Could it have been done better? Yes. But it could have been a LOT worse too.

 Malika2 wrote:
... not as cool as stuff done by Adrian Smith, Karl Kopinski, John Blanche and others.

You do know that artwork from those guys is often in FFG books, right?

 Kanluwen wrote:

"Oh look I rolled a 4, looks like my ordos maleus inquisitor has dedicated his life to hunting aliens, this is in no way stupid."

That list just underlines how ridiculous random warlord traits really are.

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

"Oh look I rolled a 4, looks like my ordos maleus inquisitor has dedicated his life to hunting aliens, this is in no way stupid."

That list just underlines how ridiculous random warlord traits really are.

Each Ordo gets their own Warlord Traits table.

Well that shows me for not reading the title lol

This is making it more and more difficult to NOT be excited about 40k again. Finally the army I've dreamed of building and painting is possible!

 Troike wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Are female characters only allowed to be depicted as musclebound tomboys that wear massive armour in combat and baggy casual clothes out of it now?

Nobody said that. Speaking for myself, my issue with it was that an exposed torso is not a great idea for going into combat. Especially against nefarious, tricky xenos.

I know that, I was using a rhetorical device to illustrate how silly I find the criticism of the art. What people were complaining about was nothing to do with "exposed torsos", because she's wearing clothing not armour, so her whole body is "exposed" from the perspective of protection in combat scenarios. What people were complaining about is that the art dares to depict a female character with visible cleavage, as if showing an Inquisitor wearing an elegant baroque dress with a décolletage entirely in keeping with the style is tasteless and borderline sexist.

As I said, if she was wearing plate armour with a giant hole in it, it would be ridiculous; if she was posed like a stripper angling for a dollar bill as so many sexist depictions of female characters are in comic books, it would be ridiculous; but this bizarre prudishness that seems to have arisen of late which can equate a woman in a dress with those previous things is what I myself find ridiculous.

Has this tangent ever gone anywhere productive or useful? Does it ever accomplish more than posters getting annoyed and accusing each other of being bad people?

People seem to be forgetting the main rule of female armor in fantasy and science/fiction:
'The more skin you see, the better it protects!'

Awful lot of projection going on. One can point out that there's a lot of bare skin on display for someone who's likely to find themselves in harm's way, without being a prude. Likewise, one can enjoy the art without needing to feel victimised because others don't like it as much. It's fine.

 Eldarain wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

"Oh look I rolled a 4, looks like my ordos maleus inquisitor has dedicated his life to hunting aliens, this is in no way stupid."

That list just underlines how ridiculous random warlord traits really are.

Each Ordo gets their own Warlord Traits table.

It still sounds a little silly, though. Even in the context of an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.

What's that, the alien hunter has dedicated his life to hunting aliens? Shocking!

 Yodhrin wrote:
What people were complaining about was nothing to do with "exposed torsos", because she's wearing clothing not armour, so her whole body is "exposed" from the perspective of protection in combat scenarios.

She does seem to be in a combat scenario, though. Or is about to be. She's carrying a chainsword and is currently holding it up, and her friend seems to have an energy ball of some sort at the ready. So it seems quite odd for her to be dressed like that. Also, Inquisitors do wear armour into combat, they wouldn't go in with mere clothing.

 Yodhrin wrote:
What people were complaining about is that the art dares to depict a female character with visible cleavage, as if showing an Inquisitor wearing an elegant baroque dress with a décolletage entirely in keeping with the style is tasteless and borderline sexist.

This sort of thing does tend to happen to female characters more often, though. But as I've said, my issue is with the practicality of it. If there was a male Inquisitor there with a bare torso, I'd find it just as odd.

 Yodhrin wrote:
but this bizarre prudishness that seems to have arisen of late which can equate a woman in a dress with those previous things is what I myself find ridiculous.

Don't be so quick to accuse people of being prudes, one can find fault in this sort of thing and be far from a prude. I myself am pretty okay with the Repentia, and they just wear rags into battle. But the reason I'm okay with them is that they have a good fluff justification for dressing like that. Our Inquisitor, meanwhile. seems to be dressing in quite skimpy clothing despite being armed and supposedly ready to fight.

 Troike wrote:
It still sounds a little silly, though. Even in the context of an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.

What's that, the alien hunter has dedicated his life to hunting aliens? Shocking!

You make the assumption that all Inquisitors of the Ordo Xenos do is hunt aliens.

If an Inquisitor is on the battlefield, as is the case with ones who can gain this warlord trait, then it's likely that they're more combat-oritentated.

And might be hunting those that support aliens.

Geez it's a piece off artwork, get over it.

 Troike wrote:
If an Inquisitor is on the battlefield, as is the case with ones who can gain this warlord trait, then it's likely that they're more combat-oritentated.

Doesn't have to be. Maybe they were excavating something, and then those damn Elder appeared?

Also some Inquisitors are noble born and continue to mix and dress in their old maner............

They might even be attending an event at the Govenors palace - hence their dress. Then the usual bad things happen.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And might be hunting those that support aliens.

Damn aliens, tekkin' our jubs

Whoops, nevermind, previously covered.


To actually add something... the artwork doesn't bother me aside from feeling unfinished. It's not up to the typical standard i expect from GW. Other than that.... yeah, sorry, complaining that a game company is stooping to the level of putting tits or armor of questionable tactical viability is pretty futile. They all do it. It's like complaining about game characters fighting in high heels. Yes its stupid in a very literal sense, but it's an aesthetic that panders to the designers / company's customer base for the most part, so don't expect it to stop.


I personally would *love* if i could take an inquisitor as an HQ for an imperial army, that'd rock. I just am curious as to how many options it really will have. I can't imagine too many.

Though it would be nice if they had stormtroopers, valkyries and such like you see in the fluff, etc.

If this goes to print, i'll probably pick it up it's close to 50 bucks or so.

She does seem to be in a combat scenario, though. Or is about to be. She's carrying a chainsword and is currently holding it up, and her friend seems to have an energy ball of some sort at the ready. So it seems quite odd for her to be dressed like that. Also, Inquisitors do wear armour into combat, they wouldn't go in with mere clothing.

Actually there has been fluff of those that have gone in pure civilians clothing into combat, or stylized uniforms much like expensive WW1 general outfits that protected nothing and seemed more for showing off.

So yeah, it doesn't matter here.

If an Inquisitor is on the battlefield, as is the case with ones who can gain this warlord trait, then it's likely that they're more combat-oritentated.

Or they just want to loot Xenos artifacts, or study Xenos Combat techniques to report back with.

You need to expand your viewpoint a bit on why someone could be on the battlefield.

Some Inquisitors like showing off.................

Also going into battle in your evening gown relying on nothing more than the Emperors Will is hardcore - of course you also have energy fields and a armoured bodyglove underneath, but most people won't knotice int he firefight..

So my fav Inquisitor gets into fire fights when invesitgating - likely just has just her concelable armour / energy fields - when she knows there is going to be a fight - she takes her artificer armour with heavy flamer and heavy bolter. She takes time to look good doing both

The nature of the work of an Inquisitor means that they often have to fight when they are not expecting it - you can't wear heavy armour all the time.............unless you just restict your activities and investigations.

As I said before - at least the lady inquistor in the picture makes sure her hair is tied back so she can see what she and her enemies are doing - unlike ther male companion.

And of course we can go back to why exactly do all those Astartes and Sisters in Power armour not use helmits Cos we want to see their faces in images and models !

 Yodhrin wrote:
showing an Inquisitor wearing an elegant baroque dress with a décolletage entirely in keeping with the style is tasteless and borderline sexist.

So, metal bra is part of an “elegant baroque dress” ? Are those big metal ]I[ on her hands and arms also part of an elegant baroque dress ? Is that brown and plain cape also part of it ?
Also, saying cleavage with a pidgin French word may make it look better to English speakers, but for French-speaker it just makes it silly.

 Yodhrin wrote:
but this bizarre prudishness that seems to have arisen of late which can equate a woman in a dress with those previous things is what I myself find ridiculous.

Of course, it's not the same. It's a question of degree !

Mr Morden wrote:They might even be attending an event at the Govenors palace - hence their dress. Then the usual bad things happen.

I think some type of Inquisitors attend events at the Governor palace by trying to fit in, bringing only easily concealable weapon like digital weaponry, while other don't give a damn, and those kind can attend with a huge chainsword… but won't change their clothing either.

Haight wrote:Other than that.... yeah, sorry, complaining that a game company is stooping to the level of putting tits or armor of questionable tactical viability is pretty futile. They all do it.

So what ? Shouldn't stop us from complaining !
Also, concept art for Lord of the Ring Online

Who's to say she doesn't have some kind of energy shield. She could be one of those inquisitors that use alien tech and is sporting an eldar holo shield. If I were an inquisitor with access to that technology I would much prefer to be in lighter clothes as it would make movement faster/quieter and less encumbering. Although I do know where people are coming from with the whole half naked female characters thing.

Maybe she just wanted to look pretty.

Maybe she's trapped on some sort of xenos doomsday weapon and knows that destroying it will cost her life. She's going to sacrifice everything to protect the Imperium, and is all decked out in the most elegant 41st century finery so she can go out in style. Maybe the psychological effect of wearing nice clothes is a coping mechanism to help her go through with it. She'll destroy those aliens and look good doing it. For humanity. For you, you ungrateful prude.

it's a bit of booby guys...get over it. The dark elf army book was covered in them (at least when i had it around ten years ago).

Nope - people have just as much right to call it out as you do to enjoy it, don't try and silence them please