Codex: Inquisition - Released Nov 16! (and it's a cut and paste job)

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**H.B.M.C.**

Kanluwen wrote:
I would be very surprised to see those come back. The Servo-Skulls and Cherubim purportedly caused problems with the molds.

Well the Servo Skulls are about the most minimalist minis GW's ever made. A skull (their fav thing in the world) with a few doo-dads on it, and then a tiny thin pole and the slot that goes into the base. Wouldn't surprise me if these things kept breaking in the mould.

I'm glad I have about 4 of 'em from the old days. No Cheribum though. Those things kinda spook me out.

Kanluwen wrote:
It's very interesting when you find out things like that as it makes so much more sense in regards to some things, like my poor defunct Inquisitor Vindicare Assassin...

What about your Vindicare?

**Kanluwen**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
I would be very surprised to see those come back. The Servo-Skulls and Cherubim purportedly caused problems with the molds.

Well the Servo Skulls are about the most minimalist minis GW's ever made. A skull (their fav thing in the world) with a few doo-dads on it, and then a tiny thin pole and the slot that goes into the base. Wouldn't surprise me if these things kept breaking in the mould.

I'm glad I have about 4 of 'em from the old days. No Cheribum though. Those things kinda spook me out.

Kanluwen wrote:
It's very interesting when you find out things like that as it makes so much more sense in regards to some things, like my poor defunct Inquisitor Vindicare Assassin...

What about your Vindicare?

The Inquisitor scale Vindicare Assassin never really made it into full production. It was tearing the mold apart every 30 or so casts.

**Xca|iber**

H.B.M.C., if Inquisitorial Storm Troopers aren't coming back, do you have any ideas whether there will be something to 'replace' them? Like you, I've always liked the Storm Trooper/Kasrkin angle for an Inq. strike force, and I wonder if (read: hope) losing them means gaining something similar/different.

My biggest wish for this 'dex is that it will make more traditional Inquisition/GK lists viable in the current meta. I like Draigowing and Mordrak-punch well enough, but it would be nice to be able to run a more human-centric Inquisition list with a couple of GK hammer units and have it work on the table.

**Yodhrin**

EDIT: Righto, so the discussion is over apparently. I'll limit myself instead to saying that anyone who genuinely thinks that art is sexualised or equivalent to male strippers is just being silly, since I can't rebut the nonsense in this thread point-by-point without getting a warning.

**H.B.M.C.**

Kanluwen wrote:
The Inquisitor scale Vindicare Assassin never really made it into full production. It was tearing the mold apart every 30 or so casts.

Oh, Inquisitor scale. I get'cha.

Xca|iber wrote:
H.B.M.C., if Inquisitorial Storm Troopers aren't coming back, do you have any ideas whether there will be something to 'replace' them? Like you, I've always liked the Storm Trooper/Kasrkin angle for an Inq. strike force, and I wonder if (read: hope) losing them means gaining something similar/different.

No idea. My feeler into the depths of GW ain't talking (well he is, but he's being cryptic... but he's always like that!), so I'm as much in the dark as anyone else here.

Xca|iber wrote:
My biggest wish for this 'dex is that it will make more traditional Inquisition/GK lists viable in the current meta. I like Draigowing and Mordrak-punch well enough, but it would be nice to be able to run a more human-centric Inquisition list with a couple of GK hammer units and have it work on the table.

Me too. Never had much interest in GKs or Sisters, so when their respective [Name] Hunter books came out I specifically made regular human based forces (hence my abundance of Kasrkin models). Combined with my sizable Guard army I could do (and did do!) great Inquisitorial led forces, wrote up tons of characters and eventually did a full backstory for the sector their in and we played linked Apoc games and so on. It was great fun. The Wardian Grey Knight Codex spat on that, set it on fire, spat on it again and then set the remains on fire again. I hate requiring a Special Character to field my pale facsimile of my army, and I really do hope that this Inquisitor Codex removes that issue.

And as I've said to others, I just started collecting armies that don't exist (Deathwatch, Adeptus Mechanicus). Can't invalidate that which does not have rules!

**ClockworkZion**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
No idea. My feeler into the depths of GW ain't talking (well he is, but he's being cryptic... but he's always like that!), so I'm as much in the dark as anyone else here.

No, I'd say you at least get a birthday candle's worth of illumination. Some of use are truly in the dark, only learning what the surroundings look like through sound and touch (aka rumors from main sources and the occasional grapevine posting, like your comment about Stormtroopers).

**Malika2**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Malika2 wrote:
... not as cool as stuff done by Adrian Smith, Karl Kopinski, John Blanche and others.

You do know that artwork from those guys is often in FFG books, right?

I know it is, but there is not also a lot of this new stuff. Not that I'm against new artwork, but the style/direction of the newer material doesn't really do it for me. I found the covers of the last few codici to be quite disappointing (Space Marines, Black Legion, SIsters of Battle), it just felt like generic artwork you see for most computer games. Not that inspiring really...

**Eldercaveman**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Shoot, I need money now for an ipad for this thing.

You are being sarcastic right?

**Haight**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Honestly Haight I don't know what you're talking about.

"Up to GW's standard"... what would that be? Have you ever looked through a 40K RPG book? The artwork in those books is often amazing.

What do you mean what am i talking about, it's not a particularly hard concept. I'll break it down in bite sizes however.

The RPG art quality is good (note i never said otherwise..).

I don't think the posted pic is up to that quality.

Therefore that point of yours is moot.

I think the posted pic is not up to the quality that i would expect to shell out 50.00 USD for a 72 page book with a dust jacket consisting of 4 pages of rules, and a lot of fluff.

If an entire book contained art of that quality, it would greatly reduce the liklihood i would spend that much money.

One of the reasons i buy the supplements in hardcover - even for armies i don't play, like Eldar - is their quality, beauty, and general "coffee table quality".

If these books contained art consisting more or less of the quality like in the posted pic, it would reduce my liklihood of buying them to just about zero.

I'd google image the rules (all four pages!) of the armies i played, and merrily ignore the rest of them all.

It should be relatively easy for anyone to "know what i'm talking about". My points weren't exactly unclear.

And yes, i've seen the RPG books. They are gorgeous. There are precious few shots of inquisitors with Bieber hair because the artist was clearly too lazy to finalize drawing a face and expression.

**pretre**

Eldercaveman wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Shoot, I need money now for an ipad for this thing.

You are being sarcastic right?

No. People still think you need an e-reader. We should just add it to the title of each digital thread. 'You don't need a fething e-reader'

**ClockworkZion**

pretre wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Shoot, I need money now for an ipad for this thing.

You are being sarcastic right?

No. People still think you need an e-reader. We should just add it to the title of each digital thread. 'You don't need a fething e-reader'

I'd say make it a sticky but then no one would read it.

**CoteazRox**

xole wrote:
Am I the only one who would have taken Coteaz anyways?

Guess!

<looks at login name>

I find it incredibly hard not take him if not in a GK army, then as ally.

**Eldercaveman**

pretre wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Shoot, I need money now for an ipad for this thing.

You are being sarcastic right?

No. People still think you need an e-reader. We should just add it to the title of each digital thread. 'You don't need a fething e-reader'

ClockworkZion wrote:
pretre wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Shoot, I need money now for an ipad for this thing.

You are being sarcastic right?

No. People still think you need an e-reader. We should just add it to the title of each digital thread. 'You don't need a fething e-reader'

I'd say make it a sticky but then no one would read it.

For me, it has become the single most annoying preconception people have about GW, I won't list the others as they tend to come up in most other threads, and I'm sick of seeing them.

**pretre**

Eldercaveman wrote:
For me, it has become the single most annoying preconception people have about GW, I won't list the others as they tend to come up in most other threads, and I'm sick of seeing them.

It also doesn't help that certain posters actively encourage this incorrect assumption...

**Eldercaveman**

pretre wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
For me, it has become the single most annoying preconception people have about GW, I won't list the others as they tend to come up in most other threads, and I'm sick of seeing them.

It also doesn't help that certain posters actively encourage this incorrect assumption...

I'm not sure who you are alluding to. But I'm sure you are right. And you are probably being really obvious as well. I'm just very tired.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Troike wrote:
Here. There's also this, but GW managers aren't always reliable sources.

Thanks !

pretre wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
For me, it has become the single most annoying preconception people have about GW, I won't list the others as they tend to come up in most other threads, and I'm sick of seeing them.

It also doesn't help that certain posters actively encourage this incorrect assumption...

Kroothawk ?

**derek**

pretre wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
For me, it has become the single most annoying preconception people have about GW, I won't list the others as they tend to come up in most other threads, and I'm sick of seeing them.

It also doesn't help that certain posters actively encourage this incorrect assumption...

No doubt, GW had what, a single product that was (temporarily) iDevice only? Pretty much every release after the initial one has supported access through multiple platforms. Not to mention that Amazon advertises a free reader for digital products to put books on your PC. But nope, easier to believe GW is evil and makes you spend more money for a device specifically to read their digital releases.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

To answer a bit more of your question, Codex: Inquisition is roughly the same size as Codex: Adepta Sororitas. It provides rules to play an Inquisition force as either an army in its own right or alongside other armies: No Grey Knights required (though they are handy to have around when the Daemons show up...)
- Sarah

The same size as Codex: Adepta Sororitas means quite a lot of room for new units ! Because currently, there is way way less Inquisitorial units available.

**ClockworkZion**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
To answer a bit more of your question, Codex: Inquisition is roughly the same size as Codex: Adepta Sororitas. It provides rules to play an Inquisition force as either an army in its own right or alongside other armies: No Grey Knights required (though they are handy to have around when the Daemons show up...)
- Sarah

The same size as Codex: Adepta Sororitas means quite a lot of room for new units ! Because currently, there is way way less Inquisitorial units available.

There was a follow along post to that as well:

The codex is primarily designed to be used as an allied force, but there's nothing stopping you using it as your primary detachment.
You certainly won't need to include any Grey Knights in the army to have an Inquisitor lead your forces.

- Eddie

So it's made to be allies, but you can run it alone or as the primary detachment. This should be interesting.

**easysauce**

I really do think we will get what can be used as a stand alone army, full codex, even if its not as fleshed out as some of the older dex's.

I think 100% Inq storm troopers will be in there,

the models are getting a redo for the new IG dex, and I can see GW wanting to sell more of these,

**reds8n**

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/Nobody-expected-Codex-Inquisition.html

The rules in this book allow you to add the agents of the Inquisition into any Imperial force (as well as fielding them, begrudgingly, alongside the armies some of the less belligerent alien races), or field them as an army in their own right.

The main focus is very definitely on the individual Inquisitors themselves, with every Inquisitor now having access to a bewildering array of options, wargear and armour, making them one of the most customisable characters in the galaxy (as it should be).

There are also plenty of ways to represent your Inquisitor’s alignment to a particular Ordo, from weapons, unique Inquisitorial relics and three Warlord Traits tables for Xenos, Hereticus and Malleus Inquisitors.

Speaking of Warlords, this codex allows you to have an Inquisitor leading your Imperial forces, even when he isn’t part of your Primary Detachment (would you argue with an Inquisitor about who’s in charge?).

Of course, Inquisitors rarely travel alone. Instead they bring with them experienced warriors and specialists, not to mention their pick of the best transports from across the Imperium.

This is great way to represent your Inquisitor’s own particular field of expertise. Will you have a radical Inquisitor leading ethereal squadrons of Daemonhosts, or an experienced alien hunter with a pack of Jokaero Weaponsmiths in tow? Of course, you’re welcome to mix the two if you like (but we can’t promise that your space-ape and possessed monstrosity will play well together).

You’ll be able to pre-order your codex this Saturday, both as an interactive edition for iBooks, and as an eBook edition for your phone, tablet, computer and eReader.

Join us next week, when we’re going to take a look at the next supplement for Codex: Space Marines – ‘Clan Raukaan’ of the Iron Hands.

Thanks for reading!

**Azreal13**

I am genuinely excited by this, and anyone familiar with my usual stance in any GW related thread will know how rare this is!

I might even preorder it!

Bravo GW, I've always said I'm happy to applaud anything I feel is good as much as I condemn anything I feel is poor, so have a small round of applause from me!

**d-usa**

**Shandara**

Land Raiders for all?

**Bonde**

This is really good news. I will definately be pre ordering this, since I have two squads of Stormtroopers lying around and I have always wanted some more Inquisition units, but Codex: GK stopped me from doing that.

**Hulksmash**

azreal13 wrote:
I am genuinely excited by this, and anyone familiar with my usual stance in any GW related thread will know how rare this is!

I might even preorder it!

Bravo GW, I've always said I'm happy to applaud anything I feel is good as much as I condemn anything I feel is poor, so have a small round of applause from me!

The end is NIGH!!!!

But seriously I'm glad that GW is doing something that can excite people who have a less than stellar view of them. On a personal note GW will be getting the money from me on release night. Pre-order is pointless since I use an e-reader. But this looks like it could be a good time.

My guess is henchmen and storm troopers for troops. Outside of that who knows

Glad to hear I can bring an Inquisitor in my IG without using up an allies spot should I choose. This is going to get ugly

**pretre**

Hmm, things will get really interesting if they really can lead your original detachment and bring a land raider. Sisters with an assault vehicle?

**airmang**

Looks like more Priests too. That's gonna be alot of Priests in an SOB + Inq list.

**Happygrunt**

Hulksmash wrote:

My guess is henchmen and storm troopers for troops. Outside of that who knows Glad to hear I can bring an Inquisitor in my IG without using up an allies spot should I choose. This is going to get ugly

Black Library wrote: Speaking of Warlords, this codex allows you to have an Inquisitor leading your Imperial forces, even when he isn’t part of your Primary Detachment (would you argue with an Inquisitor about who’s in charge?).

Sounds like Inquisitors will burn allies slots, where are you getting that they won't?

**pretre**

d-usa wrote: