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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Vanus Assassin would never show up on a battlefield.

They could sell you a picture of a Vanus sitting in a bunker somewhere. The next great frontier in Miniature sales. When you use his powers, you just show your opponent the picture.

So that means you could use a Vanus "Upgrade" to any fortification bigger then an Aegis Defense Line?

That's actually kind of a cool idea.

"Who's manning your Firestorm Redoubt?" "Nobody.... Just my VANUS!"

There could be a vanilla option with selectable wargear.

That was how assassins originally started (and GW seems to be going back and mining RT/2nd Ed a lot for ideas recently) and could still mean that assassins as they are currently would remain with the GK book, but still provide a more flexible, and hence fluffier, option to field Officio Assassinorium agents in this book.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/11/inquisitors-being-moved-to-plastic.html

an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:
all of the metal/finecast inquisitor models are going to get updated in plastic shortly (although not in time for the digital codex release).

However, it looks like we may be getting ONE metal-to-plastic update (with the ‘dex?), although oddly, not the one that is shown on the cover of the new ‘dex. See the attached screen capture from my gift list. The Inquisitor w/ Grimoire was available as early as last week – pre-codex 411. Now it is not.


Perhaps a coincidence, or perhaps a temporary thing, but I wanted to pass this along to you. When you click on the product link in my gift list, it re-directs to the GW homepage, which is what usually happens with discontinued models from old links.

I doubt plastic. Maybe Finecast.

Yeah, I have no idea why he posted that one since it has no chance of being true. When has there ever been a metal to plastic update of a mini (Meaning same mini changing from metal to plastic, not a new mini)?

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, I have no idea why he posted that one since it has no chance of being true. When has there ever been a metal to plastic update of a mini (Meaning same mini changing from metal to plastic, not a new mini)?

Eldar Farseer, more or less.
Not saying that this is true though.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Eldar Farseer, more or less.
Not saying that this is true though.

Was that one a swap? I had forgotten about it. Good call.

 pretre wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Vanus Assassin would never show up on a battlefield.

They could sell you a picture of a Vanus sitting in a bunker somewhere. The next great frontier in Miniature sales. When you use his powers, you just show your opponent the picture.

So that means you could use a Vanus "Upgrade" to any fortification bigger then an Aegis Defense Line?

That's actually kind of a cool idea.

"Who's manning your Firestorm Redoubt?" "Nobody.... Just my VANUS!"

Vanus should be able to control enemy fortifications. He hacks into the quad gun and remotely fires it to shoot down a rebel chapter master in his stormraven. The chapter master is dead and the tactical squad sergeant is assumed to be guilty since his gun shot him down.

 pretre wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Eldar Farseer, more or less.
Not saying that this is true though.

Was that one a swap? I had forgotten about it. Good call.

It is not an actual swap, the model is very similar on pose maybe but when looked into considerably different.

Yay, I'm still right.


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And more from Natfka

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-inquisition-how-it-can-be-used.html

an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:
It now has a lot more detailed rules for creating a retinue for your inquisitor, with each member having a lot more detailed rules / impact.

There are limits based on which Ordo you are on what you can take in your retinue.

The whole book is just for creating 1 HQ choice, which can be taken by any Imperial army, including as the mandatory HQ.

i.e. you could have a space marine army without a captain/librarian/chaplain/master, lead only by an Inquisitor.

No troops, no elites, no fast attack, no heavy support.

Pretty sure they already said that there was more than that, so this is pretty weak.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I doubt plastic. Maybe Finecast.

Or maybe just gone.

There were 3 Dark Elf Assassins released with the previous army book, and two of them are gone now. There is only one left that was converted from metal to Finecast.

Oh and Stickmonkey chimes in. He always likes to jump onto a sinking boat:

Stickmonkey on Faeit 212 wrote:
GW is not producing finecast like before. Its moved to small batch runs, that they are only maintaining minimum stock on remaining models until they are replaced with plastic equivalents. And as stock runs out on some older models they are being discontinued even if no replacement is complete.

I think this may be what's happening to missing inquisitor models...the wide brim hat with plasma is also gone from what I see. Not that they will necessarily have a direct plastic replacement any time soon.

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Bonus points for him not knowing that the Hat and Plasma was a Limited GD model back in the day.

Blech.
That's been directly contradicted by the Facebook commentary hasn't it?

 plastictrees wrote:
That's been directly contradicted by the Facebook commentary hasn't it?

Yep.

 pretre wrote:
Bonus points for him not knowing that the Hat and Plasma was a Limited GD model back in the day.

Bonus point for you not knowing that they released the Hat and Plasma anyway for general release some time later, until they noticed the Internet outrage after a few days and retracted it from the store

So wait, I can't just make a really sick nasty Inquisitor and companions?

I'm trying to follow this because it would encourage me to finish my Guard and Inquisitor(Lok converted a bit after the bendy sword arm broke) but it's a bit fuzzy.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Bonus points for him not knowing that the Hat and Plasma was a Limited GD model back in the day.

Bonus point for you not knowing that they released the Hat and Plasma anyway for general release some time later, until they noticed the Internet outrage after a few days and retracted it from the store

Right... So how does that negate my point? He is saying that the Hat and Plasma was pulled in the last couple of days because they aren't going to make it in finecast. I'm saying it was a LE model back in the day and wasn't on the store for them to pull in the last couple of days. I guess I could have padded out my character count and written a few more sentences, but I thought it was clear that I was talking about his specific point.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
So wait, I can't just make a really sick nasty Inquisitor and companions?

I'm trying to follow this because it would encourage me to finish my Guard and Inquisitor(Lok converted a bit after the bendy sword arm broke) but it's a bit fuzzy.

That is a really cool idea that this guy is putting out there. I would love it if you could... but it seems contra to the already known 'facts' about the release. Of course, there could be another option: That both are true and you can both do this thing with the single HQ choice and have a standalone force...

 Kanluwen wrote:
So wait, I can't just make a really sick nasty Inquisitor and companions?

I'm trying to follow this because it would encourage me to finish my Guard and Inquisitor(Lok converted a bit after the bendy sword arm broke) but it's a bit fuzzy.

I think that's guaranteed. It's the extent of the standalone army options that's up in the air.

There had better be a full list option. Now I've gone ahead and had a really cool idea to model it. :shakefist:

 NeedleOfInquiry wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
There was even a figure



RT days were awesome days.

Oh My ...you have one......

Would you sell it?

Afraid even I don't have one, thinking of converting one though. And if I ever do spot that one on ebay again...


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 Troike wrote:
On the other hand, it could mean that assassins are slated for their own allies codex. Though they are just four units altogether, so maybe not.

Yeah GW would never do a whole codex just for assassins!





Well they'd certainly never do it twice!





Well they'd certainly never do it 3 times!

And certainly not charge $25 for a downloadable codex with 4 entries!

Would they?




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'allo 'allo what's all this then?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-4Z-Inquisitor-Obiwan-Sherlock-Clousseau-Grey-Knights-Necromda-Bounty-Hunter-/281202281195?pt=Games_US&hash=item4178f64aeb



Is my love of nostalgia and really bizzare minis worth $35? Is it?

Is that guy carrying a gun, or a chainsword, or a serrated shotgun? I have that figure and I've never been able to figure it out.

Early RT figures are certainly odd.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I doubt plastic. Maybe Finecast.

Or maybe just gone.

There were 3 Dark Elf Assassins released with the previous army book, and two of them are gone now. There is only one left that was converted from metal to Finecast.

Yeah, I'm not ruling such an idea out either.

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, I have no idea why he posted that one since it has no chance of being true. When has there ever been a metal to plastic update of a mini (Meaning same mini changing from metal to plastic, not a new mini)?

Grots.


Several of the models in the current grot box were metal first, same sculpt.

I know because I'm painting a unit that has the metal ones and their plastic doppelgangers at present.

Can't think of any others offhand though.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

'allo 'allo what's all this then?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-4Z-Inquisitor-Obiwan-Sherlock-Clousseau-Grey-Knights-Necromda-Bounty-Hunter-/281202281195?pt=Games_US&hash=item4178f64aeb

Spoiler:

Is my love of nostalgia and really bizzare minis worth $35? Is it?

Let the bidding war commence!

I hope I'm not pointing out the obvious here, but both this digital 'dex and the previous AS 'dex are about moving old product. Burn through as much metal as possible, and start culling the finecast stuff that's been sitting around the warehouse. The fact that Kyrinov was excluded from the AS 'dex and his mini was also no longer in production was not a coincidence.

The scary thing is all that old, first-run Finecast that is about to be unleashed upon the world... *shivers*

Black orcs

So of those examples of metal to plastic with no changes, how many occurred after Finecast became a thing?

Not sure when they did the grotz box, but it think it was pretty recent.

The metal Farseer to plastic was with the new Eldar release.

Grots are actually a legit example, I believe. We have a winner!

If nothing else, imagine building finecast Grotz!

The humanity!

 the_Armyman wrote:


I hope I'm not pointing out the obvious here, but both this digital 'dex and the previous AS 'dex are about moving old product. Burn through as much metal as possible, and start culling the finecast stuff that's been sitting around the warehouse. The fact that Kyrinov was excluded from the AS 'dex and his mini was also no longer in production was not a coincidence.

The scary thing is all that old, first-run Finecast that is about to be unleashed upon the world... *shivers*

This. Also the fact that the Seraphim Superior [oop] is an optional upgrade, whereas in the rest of the AS dex the Superior is mandatory. It's not the end of the world, but it is really disappointing that the starting point for a codex is the stock level sheets. Pretty sure they weren't shifting many missionary/preachers, arcos etc. before the AS dex and now the Inquisition dex. Makes me wonder why Penitent Engines are still so bad, I thought it would be a no-brainer to make them auto-include.