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That would be just perfect.

"Oh hey we know you bought the model we just realsed, but you cant play with it since we didn't put the rules in the box"

"So what am i going to do?"

"You can just buy the rules for that single model for $9.99 and have your army just like you want it!"

Probably not but it is fun to rant.


I also had a chance to check the codex from a friend, as a gk player who nearly had the same tools for several years it surely is a lazy ruleset. But for any other imperial army; they can surely use it to add inquisitors with official rules which is nice

 pizzaguardian wrote:
"You can just buy the rules for that single model for $9.99 and have your army just like you want it!"

Probably not but it is fun to rant

Just wait for Codex Inquisition Storm Troopers and Codex Assassins and people going crazy about the new warlord tables in there

Its actually harking back to the older days when we had very small codexes - Assassins, Catachan etc

Codex Assassins only had the four main Temples - now they could have some of the other Temples that have appeared in the fluff - although as they don't have models...............

All in all - disapointed in the Codex - more what it could have been rather than what it is .................

Why this book is lazy and bad

I am not complaining about the lack of Imperial Assassins, nor the lack of units in general; we have inquisitors and their warbands, and that's fine -- or at least it would be if they would've done them properly.

The Inquisitors are a straight copy-paste from the GK book. There is absolutely zero thought put into them, apart from the three relics there are no new options, not even point adjustments. Now that all other codices have armouries and random psychic powers, the Inquisitors are stuck in 5th edition format (now, you could argue that fixed powers is a good thing, but it still shows that they didn't bother to change them to work like the real 6e codices.) We still have three identical inquisitor profiles with mostly identical options. It would have been much easier to have an armoury with some items marked only available for specific Ordos. And it would have been awfully nice if the Inquisitors could have finally taken invulnerable saves. There cannot be any logical reason, either fluff- or balance-wise, for them to not have them, it is just that Ward originally forgot to give them access to such, and whoever copy-pasted this didn't stop to read what he was actually copy-pasting, or think whether any adjustments were needed.

The same problem is repeated in the henchen rules: the same ridiculously expensive armour and weapon options have been copied from the GK book with no thought given to them and with no new options added. (Power armour 10 points, really!) And if the intent was to allow people to make crazy and fluffy warbands, point costs be damned, then at least give Acolytes more options, bolt pistols, autoguns, shotguns, etc. But no,again that would have required something other than a straight copy-paste.

There is also a continuity problem with C:AS, as some things in C:I work differently than in it. Condemnor Boltguns, Crusaders and Death Cult Assassins all work slightly differently in these two books. And again, I don't believe this is any carefully considered revision, merely a product of copy-pasting stuff from the GK book without realising it was changed in newer C:AS.

Oh, and Inquisitor Valeria is not in this book, so the only way to use this famous agent of Ordo Xenos is to field her alongside the Grey Knights of Ordo Malleus. This is also sad because she was one of the few female special characters in the entire 40K. And she was also an Inquisitor with an invulnerable save! Can't have that!

While previous supplements and digital additions to the game may not have been perfect, there has at least been some thought put into them. This book exemplifies every bad thing said about GW supplements, it is an uninspired copy-paste for a quick money-grab.

you can thank the [Mod Edit - Watch the language - Alpharius] at chapterhouse studios for the lack of new units, i'm sure.

It wouldn't work as a white dwarf article though. Not only is white dwarf still a third the price of this, but once it's gone it's gone. At least now you'll always be able to get a copy, people who get into the hobby in a few years time won't be shafted.

 davou wrote:
Anyone else noticed that the condemnor boltgun on this book says that the target suffers a perils only for unsaved wounds?

Yup. The C:AS epub says the same thing. The iPad version is lagging on the update though.


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 Piperi wrote:
So, Inquisitor Valeria is not in the book?

Nope. No model = no rules is my guess.


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 Necrosis wrote:
I have a question. When I take Inquisitors as my primary detachment does he take up one of my HQ slots? As in if I was playing sisters of battle, I could take an Inquisitor as my only HQ and not take any sister HQs?

No. If you take him as your primary detachment he uses his own FOC and is your only mandatory choice for that FOC. The Warbands in the Primary detachment would also be scoring.

 Necrosis wrote:
If not can I do the following?
Take 2 Inquisitors as my Inquisitor Detachment, take 2 Grey Knight Inquisitors and ally in another Inquisitor for a total of 5 Inquisitors.

Yes. I think. I'm still wrapping my head around the changes to the FOC with this thing honestly.


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 Commissar Merces wrote:
1. Did any of the options change for inquisitors? Like can a hereticus inquisitor take rad grenades? Isn't that xenos only?

The Hellfire is back, and the relics are different but no, it's basically the same.

Oh and the Dedicated Transports list is a lot longer now for Warbands.

 Commissar Merces wrote:
2. If we already have the grey knights codex, the sisters codex, the guard codex, is this really worth the purchase? Just for artwork, fluff (which can be found online) and warlord traits?

It's artwork, fluff, a unique allies chart, and unique FOC mainly. I recommend it for those who like the sound of it.

 Commissar Merces wrote:
3. Is a daemon blade changed at all? Have any other weapon profiles or point costs changed?

Not as far as I saw.

 Commissar Merces wrote:
4. Is there a way to give an inquisitor an invul save?

Malleus can take Terminator armour. Other than that, no.

 sharkticon wrote:
A major change no one else seems to have noted yet, the priests are the ones from Codex Adeptus Soritas. Our warbands get war hymns now. And you can take multiple priests per squad and have them cast different hymns. That is huge.

Just because I am ignorant, how do those hyms work again? I think there is one to re-roll wounds, but I heard it was cast not at assault but at an assault sub-phase? Does that mean at the priest's initiative?

 Jadenim wrote:
Put me in the disappointed camp;

1) No assassins. Gawd knows why, probably because they're going to charge us for a separate supplement later;

A codex you won't even have to use. These "mini-dexes" aren't being sold as supplements but as codexes. I'm thinking when it does happen it'll be a return of Codex: Assassins.

 Jadenim wrote:
2) No dedicated IST. Technically you can build them as acolytes, but they're weirdly expensive that way and you they only have basic guardsman stats, when they should be veterans. This was always one of my big gripes with codex GK, if you're going to force us to build them, at least give us the tools to do it;

That was an issue I had with C:GKs too.

 Jadenim wrote:
3) They haven't even included all the Inquistor special characters (e.g. Valeria) they created for codex GK?! There were never any specific models for these, so why not do the cut and paste job thoroughly?! Could possibly have included Rex and Lok from FW too.

GW DE said they don't have any plans to include FW stuff in any of their books at this point in time. And Valeria looks like a casualty of "no model = no rules" that GW has been doing (we don't even have a female Inquisitor model available anymore).

 Jadenim wrote:
4) Finally, and most frustratingly, they've left the henchmen war band as that horrible massive table as per codex GK, with all of the unit descriptions crammed onto a single page. It's a nightmare to try and read. They had to reformat it for ebook/iBook anyway, but they couldn't take the time to just put in a few sub headings?! It would only take a couple of extra pages and make it so much easier to read. Plus it might even make the book feel a little meatier...

I never had any issues with it honestly before and it looked okay to me on my iPad.


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Super Newb wrote:

 sharkticon wrote:
A major change no one else seems to have noted yet, the priests are the ones from Codex Adeptus Soritas. Our warbands get war hymns now. And you can take multiple priests per squad and have them cast different hymns. That is huge.

Just because I am ignorant, how do those hyms work again? I think there is one to re-roll wounds, but I heard it was cast not at assault but at an assault sub-phase? Does that mean at the priest's initiative?

It's done at the start of the Fight Sub-Phase so before the I10 stuff occurs.

 Crimson wrote:
While previous supplements and digital additions to the game may not have been perfect, there has at least been some thought put into them. This book exemplifies every bad thing said about GW supplements, it is an uninspired copy-paste for a quick money-grab.

While I think it is very cool that Inquisitors can now show up in more armies, since they are Battle Brothers with tons of stuff now, you are absolutely right. This "codex" could have been made by one person in one afternoon. So little of it is new or even modified from the GK codex that it is ridiculous.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
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 Jadenim wrote:
3) They haven't even included all the Inquistor special characters (e.g. Valeria) they created for codex GK?! There were never any specific models for these, so why not do the cut and paste job thoroughly?! Could possibly have included Rex and Lok from FW too.

GW DE said they don't have any plans to include FW stuff in any of their books at this point in time. And Valeria looks like a casualty of "no model = no rules" that GW has been doing (we don't even have a female Inquisitor model available anymore).

I was all ready to go "nah-uh there are still lady inquisitors around" but dammit, it looks like you are right! When did they get turfed?

Is it safe to assume that someone who already has the Grey Knights codex can simply add Coteaz to an army and wouldn't need to actually buy this book?

 Vain wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
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 Jadenim wrote:
3) They haven't even included all the Inquistor special characters (e.g. Valeria) they created for codex GK?! There were never any specific models for these, so why not do the cut and paste job thoroughly?! Could possibly have included Rex and Lok from FW too.

GW DE said they don't have any plans to include FW stuff in any of their books at this point in time. And Valeria looks like a casualty of "no model = no rules" that GW has been doing (we don't even have a female Inquisitor model available anymore).

I was all ready to go "nah-uh there are still lady inquisitors around" but dammit, it looks like you are right! When did they get turfed?

A few months at least.


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 Oaka wrote:
Is it safe to assume that someone who already has the Grey Knights codex can simply add Coteaz to an army and wouldn't need to actually buy this book?

Generally speaking if you want to use the rules of the book you should have the book. Same thing I say about using FW.

I haven't followed the whole digital book thing, but keep seeing ads for preordering the book.
Why preorder a digital book that can never run out and you can just buy it when it comes out.

 Genoside07 wrote:
I haven't followed the whole digital book thing, but keep seeing ads for preordering the book.
Why preorder a digital book that can never run out and you can just buy it when it comes out.

That's already been covered several times. Basically convenience is a big factor.

 Genoside07 wrote:
I haven't followed the whole digital book thing, but keep seeing ads for preordering the book.
Why preorder a digital book that can never run out and you can just buy it when it comes out.

In the words of GW Digital Editions...

You don’t have to pre-order if you don’t want to, but if you do it on the iBookstore with the interactive edition, it does mean that your codex downloads automatically, as soon as the book is available, which is kind of cool.

Also, whenever we don’t do pre-orders, people always ask when they can pre-order it – some people just like to pre-order stuff.

It’s kind of like christmas when your present’s under the tree: you can see it, and you have a week to get excited about it, making the opening all the sweeter.

- Eddie

They are quite communicative, actually. You can ask them questions like that on Facebook

 Casbyness wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Weird, Coteaz and Karamazov don't have set Warlord Traits.

Cos that would have required actual effort...

I think it's rather a question of “Let's not put anything that would invalidate or even change in any way Codex: Grey Knight, because they are marines so we truly care about them more than we will ever for the Inquisition”-syndrome.

 pretre wrote:
It is exactly like C:AS in that regard, mostly cut and paste and some new stuff on top.

I has less nerf^w change (Celestine, Acts of Faith, …).
The Inquisition book had a few things to the Inquisitor for Codex: Grey Knight, but as far as I know without modifying anything (except maybe for Priests), and without fixing stuff like the Inquisitors not having access to any kind of field. They definitely should have access to force fields, displacer fields and all that !

 davou wrote:
Anyone else noticed that the condemnor boltgun on this book says that the target suffers a perils only for unsaved wounds?

They changed it to that in Codex: Adeptus Sororitas too. They thought something potentially powerful was totally unfit to their vision of what Codex: Adepta Sororitas should be !

 pretre wrote:
Space Wolves shouldn't have been BB with Inquisition.

Neither should Dark Angels, because the rules don't allow to shot Battle Brother allies in the back !



I want to check if I understood everything correctly. Can I have a unit with 2 Inquisitors, one to get scout (Liber Heresius) and one for radiation and psychotrope grenades, along with 7 crusaders (or acolytes with storm-shield, whichever is cheaper), 6 priests that are part of the unit, and one more priest from an allied detachment of Adeptus Sororitas which comes with the Litany that makes War Hymns auto-pass, put that sweet sweet deathstar into a land-raider, and launch maniacally when I scout and then charge my opponent on the first turn of the game with a unit that has not only rerollable 3++ saves and fearless, but also comes 20 reroll to hit, reroll to wound S5 AP2 I3 (and don't forget the -1 T due to the grenade) attacks, 8 reroll to hit, reroll to wound S5 AP4 I3 attacks, 14 reroll to hit, reroll to wound S3 AP3 I3 attacks, and then whatever the two Inquisitors can do ? And if I need high strength, for instance against vehicules, I can get up to 21 S10 reroll to hit attacks (18 if I still want my 3++ to be rerollable) !
I call that CRAZY !

Is the priest from the Sisters of Battle an IC? That works provided the priest IC starts outside of the transport at the start of the game... no wait BB cannot ride in their ally's transport can they? And if you scout and go first on the first turn you aren't allowed to charge.

I think it's funny they're charging 30$ for what could have been a quick FAQ to Codex: GK...

"Instead of the normal ally rules and FOC rules, you may add 0-2 Inquisitors to any Imperial Army that count as Battle Brothers but do not count towards your limit of allies. If you take at least 1 Inquisitor you may also include 0-3 Henchmen Warbands as Elites. Up to 1 Inquisitor taken via this rule may be the armys Warlord despite not being taken from the Primary Detachment"

THAT WILL BE 30$ PLEASE

 Kirasu wrote:
I think it's funny they're charging 30$ for what could have been a quick FAQ to Codex: GK...

"Instead of the normal ally rules and FOC rules, you may add 0-2 Inquisitors to any Imperial Army that count as Battle Brothers but do not count towards your limit of allies. If you take at least 1 Inquisitor you may also include 0-3 Henchmen Warbands as Elites. Up to 1 Inquisitor taken via this rule may be the armys Warlord despite not being taken from the Primary Detachment"

THAT WILL BE 30$ PLEASE

Well that's what everyone is going to use this new "codex" for, but don't forget, the codex also has priests and a few relics! WOW

Along with the best new feature introduced in 6th, warlord tables! That nobody will use, because why would you ever make your squishy inquisitor with T3 and no invulnerable save a warlord?

Damn you're right, we should be grateful it wasn't broken up into THREE supplements for Inquisitors, their relics and priests

Supplement: Coteaz and Friends
Supplement: Books!
Supplement: Lol Chaplains? PRIESTS

Note: I actually really love the inquisition, I just know that I can photocopy 5 pages from codex: Gk for cheaper than 30$

But you are technically supposed to have the codex to use the rules from that codex, right? So for tournaments and playing with friends who are sticklers for the rules, you'll need the codex if you want to field Coteaz and/or a random inquisitor in any other imperial army.

I take it someone has already pointed out the Arco flagellant stat and wargear differences.

AS: 10pts A3, two arco-flails
=][=: 15pts A4, arco-flails

Funny how Banishers are not in the codex with their 15pt Eviscerators...

Is Coteaz an exact copy/paste including making the henchman troops?

Eldarain that's what everyone has been saying. Oh wait, he might have a set warlord trait if you make him your warlord. And I doubt his make henchmen troops power applies to other detachments in your army.


So basically he's still an amazing HQ, that you can now put into ANY imperial army, for 100 points. No troop tax. Can take allies as normal.

 Eldarain wrote:
Is Coteaz an exact copy/paste including making the henchman troops?

It's not 100% the same. He now just makes them scoring instead.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Is Coteaz an exact copy/paste including making the henchman troops?

It's not 100% the same. He now just makes them scoring instead.

Ah, close but an important distinction. I was thinking if it still said troops it would give the codex more of a standalone capability.

Thanks for the review.

Eldarain, troops versus scoring wouldn't have changed anything. They would have had to alter the special FOC in the inquisition codex to let you take more than 3 warbands.

Super Newb wrote:
Eldarain, troops versus scoring wouldn't have changed anything. They would have had to alter the special FOC in the inquisition codex to let you take more than 3 warbands.

Well that and the FOC would need troops slots.

Genoside07 wrote:I haven't followed the whole digital book thing, but keep seeing ads for preordering the book.
Why preorder a digital book that can never run out and you can just buy it when it comes out.

Because if people fully knew the content by word of mouth, at best 50% would actually buy it

Crimson wrote:While previous supplements and digital additions to the game may not have been perfect, there has at least been some thought put into them. This book exemplifies every bad thing said about GW supplements, it is an uninspired copy-paste for a quick money-grab.