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Since I already play GK, I don't really see a reason to get this codex. Unless I am missing something. Can anyone think of any reason for me to get this?
Grey Templar wrote: The Riptide can't be a giant death robot, its completely lacking a sword or massive chainsaw. All giant death robots have swords or massive chainsaws.
Genoside07 wrote:I haven't followed the whole digital book thing, but keep seeing ads for preordering the book.
Why preorder a digital book that can never run out and you can just buy it when it comes out.
Because if people fully knew the content by word of mouth, at best 50% would actually buy it
Crimson wrote:While previous supplements and digital additions to the game may not have been perfect, there has at least been some thought put into them. This book exemplifies every bad thing said about GW supplements, it is an uninspired copy-paste for a quick money-grab.
Kroot, you're not right all the time. I wouldn't even say you're right half the time. And even less than that if we start looking at your rumor track record.
I think people are missing a key detail here: this isn't mean to be a full codex. About a year ago when rumors were flying for the mini-dexes there were a lot of people excited for the idea, we finally get one and now we have people complaining about it.
The problem is that until Grey Knights get updated GWcan't do a lot with this book that is drastically different. When two books share units the newer book often suffers for it. We're probably lucky Sisters even saw an update to the Arco-flagellants at all because of this.
For what it is, a cheap mini-dex expansion, I dig it. If you can't find use for it, or just don't like the Inquisition (or you're Kroothawk and you don't like anything ), then you can safely give this a pass.
Super Newb wrote: Since I already play GK, I don't really see a reason to get this codex. Unless I am missing something. Can anyone think of any reason for me to get this?
Fluff, art, more FOC slots to put stuff in and access to Ministorum Priests and Valkyries are about the only reasons I guess.
ClockworkZion wrote: We're probably lucky Sisters even saw an update to the Arco-flagellants at all because of this.
Don't forget the awesome DCA “update” that gave us those awesome power swords !
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ClockworkZion wrote: We're probably lucky Sisters even saw an update to the Arco-flagellants at all because of this.
Don't forget the awesome DCA “update” that gave us those awesome power swords !
I was thinking more the points drop we saw. And honestly DCA with only swords is something I expected. It means DCA are still good....just less good versus Terminators.
Genoside07 wrote:I haven't followed the whole digital book thing, but keep seeing ads for preordering the book.
Why preorder a digital book that can never run out and you can just buy it when it comes out.
Because if people fully knew the content by word of mouth, at best 50% would actually buy it
Crimson wrote:While previous supplements and digital additions to the game may not have been perfect, there has at least been some thought put into them. This book exemplifies every bad thing said about GW supplements, it is an uninspired copy-paste for a quick money-grab.
Kroot, you're not right all the time. I wouldn't even say you're right half the time. And even less than that if we start looking at your rumor track record.
I think people are missing a key detail here: this isn't mean to be a full codex. About a year ago when rumors were flying for the mini-dexes there were a lot of people excited for the idea, we finally get one and now we have people complaining about it.
The problem is that until Grey Knights get updated GWcan't do a lot with this book that is drastically different. When two books share units the newer book often suffers for it. We're probably lucky Sisters even saw an update to the Arco-flagellants at all because of this.
For what it is, a cheap mini-dex expansion, I dig it. If you can't find use for it, or just don't like the Inquisition (or you're Kroothawk and you don't like anything ), then you can safely give this a pass.
I may be the odd one out, but being that I've been working on digitizing my GW library and don't have the GK dex, this works out fine for me.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: I want to check if I understood everything correctly. Can I have a unit with 2 Inquisitors, one to get scout (Liber Heresius) and one for radiation and psychotrope grenades, along with 7 crusaders (or acolytes with storm-shield, whichever is cheaper), 6 priests that are part of the unit, and one more priest from an allied detachment of Adeptus Sororitas which comes with the Litany that makes War Hymns auto-pass, put that sweet sweet deathstar into a land-raider, and launch maniacally when I scout and then charge my opponent on the first turn of the game with a unit that has not only rerollable 3++ saves and fearless, but also comes 20 reroll to hit, reroll to wound S5 AP2 I3 (and don't forget the -1 T due to the grenade) attacks, 8 reroll to hit, reroll to wound S5 AP4 I3 attacks, 14 reroll to hit, reroll to wound S3 AP3 I3 attacks, and then whatever the two Inquisitors can do ? And if I need high strength, for instance against vehicules, I can get up to 21 S10 reroll to hit attacks (18 if I still want my 3++ to be rerollable) !
I call that CRAZY !
It is crazy. Wrong. You can't put battle brothers in transports.
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Super Newb wrote: Since I already play GK, I don't really see a reason to get this codex. Unless I am missing something. Can anyone think of any reason for me to get this?
Fluff, art, more FOC slots to put stuff in and access to Ministorum Priests and Valkyries are about the only reasons I guess.
Do I really get more FOC slots though? Not really. I can take more henchmen - I could take 9 henchmen warbands now, but only 6 of them would be scoring, since 3 would still count as elites. Other than that, what? More HQs. 4 HQs. That might be a bit much, but now's it's possible.
Priests would be nice, as would Land Raiders, if I wanted to make some sort of crazy henchmen assault army with 4+ squads like that, lol. But I don't think that's happening for me anytime soon, or ever... and were the DCA / Crusader bombs really underpowered before? Never felt like they needed any buffs....
Got a point about the Valkries but I hate flyers so no good there.
Kroot, you're not right all the time. I wouldn't even say you're right half the time. And even less than that if we start looking at your rumor track record.
I think people are missing a key detail here: this isn't mean to be a full codex. About a year ago when rumors were flying for the mini-dexes there were a lot of people excited for the idea, we finally get one and now we have people complaining about it.
The problem is that until Grey Knights get updated GWcan't do a lot with this book that is drastically different. When two books share units the newer book often suffers for it. We're probably lucky Sisters even saw an update to the Arco-flagellants at all because of this.
For what it is, a cheap mini-dex expansion, I dig it. If you can't find use for it, or just don't like the Inquisition (or you're Kroothawk and you don't like anything ), then you can safely give this a pass.
I agree with you that mini dexes are actually a great idea. The problem is there is nothing for new for rules in this dex, all of them are copy paste from GK and AS codices except for a third of warlord traits in total and 3 artifacts.
I wish it acutally had more units inside, this one feels like an alpha version instead of a full release.
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Grey Templar wrote: The Riptide can't be a giant death robot, its completely lacking a sword or massive chainsaw. All giant death robots have swords or massive chainsaws.
ClockworkZion wrote: Kroot, you're not right all the time. I wouldn't even say you're right half the time. And even less than that if we start looking at your rumor track record.
Really?
pretre wrote: Kroothawk - Total rumors: (3 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - NO RUMORS PENDING
ClockworkZion wrote: I think people are missing a key detail here: this isn't mean to be a full codex.
Red Corsair wrote: You also can't charge turn one top or bottom if you made a scout move
That's wrong. It is player turn. so you only can't charge if you scouted and you had first turn. If you have second, you can charge.
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I am somewhat disappointed given the build up to "most customisable characters yet" for inquisitors that only 1 type gets termi armour, only special characters get artificer and some of the weapon options are incredibly limited (only malleus can deepstrike aswell)
However for a small list, and as someone who like inquisition but not GK this mini dex will do me and only cost 16
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Yeah, it was cheap and gave options. People are going to complain but whatever.
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Kroot, you're not right all the time. I wouldn't even say you're right half the time. And even less than that if we start looking at your rumor track record.
Indeed. He is always predicting the worst, and is usually wrong.
I think people are missing a key detail here: this isn't mean to be a full codex. About a year ago when rumors were flying for the mini-dexes there were a lot of people excited for the idea, we finally get one and now we have people complaining about it.
The problem is that until Grey Knights get updated GWcan't do a lot with this book that is drastically different. When two books share units the newer book often suffers for it. We're probably lucky Sisters even saw an update to the Arco-flagellants at all because of this.
They could have easily added options and adjusted point costs. Different marine codices have similar units priced differently or acting slightly differently all the time. Besides, as GK can also ally with this codes, so GK players could have just taken the new and improved inquisitors as allies like everyone else; they need to do that anyway if they want the only improvements this dex has: the relics or the new priests.
ClockworkZion wrote: Kroot, you're not right all the time. I wouldn't even say you're right half the time. And even less than that if we start looking at your rumor track record.
Really?
pretre wrote: Kroothawk - Total rumors: (3 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - NO RUMORS PENDING
Odd because I recall you have this rep for rumors that don't pan out.
Regardless of you're claims though, you're still not right all the time. Like some of your claims about the Sisters codex.
So yes, marketed by GW as a full Codex, iPad version costing as much as the Grey Knight Codex.
You seem to be forgetting Games Workshop Digital Editions saying it was primarilly supposed to be used for allying though you could take it as your primary army (or even on it's own) if you want. And that precedes the WD Daily blog post by over a week. As for the cover, yes it is a Codex, but it's not a full codex and GWDE never claimed that it was supposed to be one.
ClockworkZion wrote: Odd because I recall you have this rep for rumors that don't pan out.
Regardless of you're claims though, you're still not right all the time. Like some of your claims about the Sisters codex.
No, Kroothawk is accurate when he makes rumor predictions. He is inaccurate when he says all sorts of inflammatory gak about upcoming releases that is his speculation. That's different. I did not consider his speculation about Codex: Adepta to be a rumor. Same with this one. Trolling =/ rumor mongering.
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ClockworkZion wrote: Odd because I recall you have this rep for rumors that don't pan out.
1.) Memories are sometimes manipulated by feelings 2.) I report a lot of rumours by other people, because I find the early. Doesn't make them "my rumours" because I credit them correctly.
3.) The video was actually a joke. I know that noone is always right, me included.
So yes, marketed by GW as a full Codex, iPad version costing as much as the Grey Knight Codex.
Nowhere in that link does it say it is a full codex. In fact it says exactly what it is, you can make inquisitors and henchmen. It's a good thing I don't track all your statements.
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pretre wrote: Nowhere in that link does it say it is a full codex. In fact it says exactly what it is, you can make inquisitors and henchmen. It's a good thing I don't track all your statements.
If a car company sells you a car and you only get the motor, would you accept them saying: "But we didn't say, you get a full car."
It is marketed and named as a Codex, not a half-Codex, proto-Codex or Codex Supplement. Therefore it has to be compared with all other Codices they sell. Correct naming would have been Supplement.
And if you start tracking true and false personal opinions, let me know
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Hereticus pay more for a Thunder Hammer than Malleus do for a Nemesis Daemon hammer, despite (as far as I can see) the Daemon Hammer being Thunderhammer+
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Ok, I was maybe going to get back into 40k (only played one game of 6th, and did not like it, but then I've not really been a fan of 40k since 2nd ed) with this but from what im hearing it may not be worth it. So can I have an Inquisitor Lord as my HQ some Demon hosts and Assasins as Elites, Stormtroopers as troops in rhinos and some form of tanks as heavy support?
Celestine 5 Priests (Litanies/Power Maul, Power Maul) BSS (5) with Flamer/HF in Rhino BSS (20) with HF/Flamer, Simulacrum Dominions (5) with 4 Melta in TL-MM Immo (Laud/Dozer) Exorcist Exorcist Coteaz Xenos Inquisitor (Rad/Psycho, Liber) Henchman Unit (4 DCA (Axe/Sword), 4 Crusaders, 4 Priests) in LRC
Celestine's Warlord Trait works for allied Priests. So they test at Ld10 if within 12"
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overtyrant wrote: Ok, I was maybe going to get back into 40k (only played one game of 6th, and did not like it, but then I've not really been a fan of 40k since 2nd ed) with this but from what im hearing it may not be worth it. So can I have an Inquisitor Lord as my HQ some Demon hosts and Assasins as Elites, Stormtroopers as troops in rhinos and some form of tanks as heavy support?
You can have an Inquisitor HQ, with upto 3 warbands who if Inquisitor is your primary detachment are scoring. Each warband may have as transport from a variety of choices. You can then ally this into another army.
This codex has no assassins (other than Death cult) and no stormtroopers.
Henchmen warbands are massively customisable and can be used to represent a variety of things (carapace+hotshot acolytes for storm troopers, power+bolters for highly trained operatives, barebones lasguns for fanatics etc) aswell as the massive variety of profiles in a warband (daemon host, assassins (dca), acolytes, jokero, priests, mystics, psykers, crusaders)
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pretre wrote: It is crazy. Wrong. You can't put battle brothers in transports.
Even independant characters that joined a embarked unit ? Too bad ! Still, even with a priest from the Inquisition detachment, it stays a very very good choice.
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