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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:12:32
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Any idea who wrote it? Did it say in the iTunes version?
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:15:21
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well 99% of the rules are the same as the GK codex so...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:16:55
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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With a guardsman profile.
power+bolters for highly trained operatives
Again with the guardsman profile, not that hardly trained. And of course they end up costing more than a space marine, while being much worse.
barebones lasguns for fanatics
They can't have regular lasguns (or autoguns, or shotguns...) Automatically Appended Next Post:
That is a hotly debated topic, has been for a while.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:21:11
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Ooops, well that just invalidated 90% of my henchmen, not good
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:21:36
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Troike wrote:Any idea who wrote it? Did it say in the iTunes version?
No one wrote it. Some intern pushed ctrl+c and ctrl+v few times.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:25:23
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Crimson wrote:power+bolters for highly trained operatives
Again with the guardsman profile, not that hardly trained. And of course they end up costing more than a space marine, while being much worse.
Damn. One thing I really wanted to do with this someday was use some Sisters are retinue members. This kind of ruins that, though.
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:31:05
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Crimson wrote:
With a guardsman profile.
power+bolters for highly trained operatives
Again with the guardsman profile, not that hardly trained. And of course they end up costing more than a space marine, while being much worse.
barebones lasguns for fanatics
They can't have regular lasguns (or autoguns, or shotguns...)
Automatically Appended Next Post:
That is a hotly debated topic, has been for a while.
I already play a henchman army mixed with IG. There is a singular trugh about inquisitoral stormtroopers I can testify about. Henchmen are way better than storm troopers. Embrace the henchmen and don't try to copy storm trooperes.
3 plasma guns 9 bolter henchmen=2 points more than a naked storm trooper squad.
3 plasma guns 8 bolters and 1 damn dirty ape=2 points more than a 5 man storm trooper squad with 2 plasma guns
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:34:16
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dammit schadenfreude, you're not supposed to tell anyone that, it's supposed to be a secret.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:39:57
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Beyond sloppy writing this looking to be codex prescience with any imperial army able to pay 55pts to add a psyker, even if you already take allies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:40:04
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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schadenfreude wrote:
I already play a henchman army mixed with IG. There is a singular trugh about inquisitoral stormtroopers I can testify about. Henchmen are way better than storm troopers. Embrace the henchmen and don't try to copy storm trooperes.
3 plasma guns 9 bolter henchmen=2 points more than a naked storm trooper squad.
3 plasma guns 8 bolters and 1 damn dirty ape=2 points more than a 5 man storm trooper squad with 2 plasma guns
This is true, those are good builds. It is just stupid to have options that are practically unusable because they're priced so absurdly. And it is really frustrating that they just copy-pasted those same broken prices from GK book. To do it one time can be a mistake, to do it again is just idiocy. No one in their right mind can think that a guardsman with a bolter and a power armour should cost more than a marine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:41:50
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Most henchmen players make terrible lists.
While I'm at it 3 plasma guns and 2 storm bolters inside a Chinera with 5 fire points>3 naked henchmen in a razorback.
A single banisher added to a Chimera has a 24" threat range for placing a squad in old school null zone. (6" range+12" move + 6" flat out) Any deamons within 6" of the Chimera reroll successful invo saves.
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:45:17
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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@Schadenfreude But is it better than two naked Henchmen Razorback squads? Mostly kidding. It depends on what you're looking for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:52:34
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Been Around the Block
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Troike wrote:Any idea who wrote it? Did it say in the iTunes version?
I just looked at the mobi version and it doesnt say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:57:35
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Troike wrote:Any idea who wrote it? Did it say in the iTunes version?
Cover Art by Marek Okon, and they credit play testers. Maybe this is the first codex that's strictly GW: DE authored?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 17:59:19
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Hulksmash wrote:@Schadenfreude
But is it better than two naked Henchmen Razorback squads?
Mostly kidding. It depends on what you're looking for.
2 psybacks average 5.333 hits per turn while the multi laser only averages 1.5. It's a big early game advantage for the psybacks until the plasma guns get to start opening up.
Going to post my 1,750 point list I've been playing recently. The big change is the units are now battle brothers so I might shave some points to buy a more expensive IG HS that can make use of prescience..
1 Jokaero 3 mm servitors, 2 plasmaguns, 2 boltguns in a Chimera
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 bolter, in a Chimera with a searchlight
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 bolter,in a Chimera with a searchlight
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 bolter, in a Chimera
1 Jokaero 3 plasmaguns, 3 storm bolters and 5 boltguns on foot
1 Jokaero 3 plasmaguns 2 storm bolters and 6 boltguns on foot.
IG allies
CCS with 4 meltas in a Chimera(searchlight free)
PCS with 4 flamers in a Chimera (searchlight free)
Infantry squad with AC and melta
Infantry squad with AC and melta
Infantry squad a melta
1 Vendetta
1 Griffon
Aegis Wall with a quad gun
Marbo
Yep I can drop the platoon infantry squads down to 2 squads with 1 AC to upgrade the Griffon to a Manticore and have 5 points left over.
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 18:22:36
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Been Around the Block
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ClockworkZion wrote: Troike wrote:Any idea who wrote it? Did it say in the iTunes version?
Cover Art by Marek Okon, and they credit play testers. Maybe this is the first codex that's strictly GW: DE authored?
And who would DE be? Maybe this will be a new trend where they dont list the authors anymore or maybe more than one person worked on the codex like the Codex Eldar. They should still list the names imo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 18:27:25
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ah ha! I'm a big fan of this configuration as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 18:35:42
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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shadowseercB wrote: ClockworkZion wrote: Troike wrote:Any idea who wrote it? Did it say in the iTunes version?
Cover Art by Marek Okon, and they credit play testers. Maybe this is the first codex that's strictly GW: DE authored?
And who would DE be? Maybe this will be a new trend where they dont list the authors anymore or maybe more than one person worked on the codex like the Codex Eldar. They should still list the names imo.
Games Workshop Digital Editons, the folks who actually make and maintain the digital codexes and run the Facebook page.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 18:49:33
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ok, that's better than Dark Eldar writing it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 18:50:11
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Crazed Flagellant
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Doh, I can't read
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 18:52:56
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Been Around the Block
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I know what you meant but those people have names, they need to name names!!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 18:57:06
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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shadowseercB wrote:I know what you meant but those people have names, they need to name names!!!!! 
That is a bold assumption, they could be just advanced chatbots!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 19:05:41
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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shadowseercB wrote:I know what you meant but those people have names, they need to name names!!!!! 
With all the mudslinging I see directed at GW you'd think they weren't people because they sure aren't treated like they are a lot of the time. :/
No names where given for whatever reason. If anything that tells me it might not be a main studio product and it might be an experiment. If so then the actual folks who wrote it likely didn't get a lot of freedom in what they were doing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 20:30:09
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Do the 4 psykers cast Psychic Barrage out of just 1 Firepoint from the Chimera ?
Also, an additional question:
in my GK codex, under Psychic Barrage, it states:
"The strength of the attach increases by 1 for each additional Psyker in the unit beyond the first"
"The AP of the attack improves by 1 for each additional Psyker in the unit beyond the first"
In the inquisition codex, under Psychic Barrage, it states:
“If you want to manifest this psychic power you must select a model that knows this psychic power to take the psychic test, and measure range, line of sight etc. from him. The Strength and AP of Psychic Barrage both increase by 1 for each model in the unit that knows this power after the first”
Which is not the same thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 20:36:26
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Troike wrote:Any idea who wrote it? Did it say in the iTunes version?
Given the content, the same person who wrote the Grey Knight book?
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Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 20:38:26
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Mighty Vampire Count
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For whats its worth I posted this on their FB page
I think many people will be very glad that they can no field the Holy Inquisition in their armies and I welcome this, however:
I am sadly disapointed by many elements of the implementation.
It appears to be a partial copy/paste from Grey Knights but also no Assassins
Valeria - who appears in two Codexes fluff has been dropped - not only was she cool but now the only way to field an Ordo Xenos Special Character is through the Grey Knights Codex? Also another female SC gone - sad days.........
Lack of options on the Inquistors - in particular not being able to equip them with force fields or artificer armour which makes trying to recreate the heroes and herorines of the Black Library novels impossible.
I would hope that this could be looked at further should it be revised or it goes to print
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 20:48:42
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Dysartes wrote:Given the content, the same person who wrote the Grey Knight book?
Two other people already said that.
But, as Zion said, it credits "play testers", so it could well be that Digital Editions put it all togetther and added in the extra stuff themselves. They might've gotten Ward's input, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 21:01:48
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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Mr Morden wrote:
Valeria - who appears in two Codexes fluff has been dropped - not only was she cool but now the only way to field an Ordo Xenos Special Character is through the Grey Knights Codex? Also another female SC gone - sad days.........
Well. As said. Post your thanks over at Chapterhouse Studios. Do it again when things like Doom of Malan'tai drop from the Tyranid Codex. And again when Duke Sliscus and Lady Malys are gone from the next Dark Eldar book. And again when Old Zogwort vanishes from the next Ork Codex.
Let's practice... shall we? Thank! You! Chapterhouse Studios!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 21:05:08
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Mr Morden wrote:For whats its worth I posted this on their FB page
I think many people will be very glad that they can no field the Holy Inquisition in their armies and I welcome this, however:
I am sadly disapointed by many elements of the implementation.
It appears to be a partial copy/paste from Grey Knights but also no Assassins
Valeria - who appears in two Codexes fluff has been dropped - not only was she cool but now the only way to field an Ordo Xenos Special Character is through the Grey Knights Codex? Also another female SC gone - sad days.........
Lack of options on the Inquistors - in particular not being able to equip them with force fields or artificer armour which makes trying to recreate the heroes and herorines of the Black Library novels impossible.
I would hope that this could be looked at further should it be revised or it goes to print
Good post, you said the right things in a polite way. They might just listen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 21:07:17
Subject: Codex: Inquisition - Update 5/11/13: Transports, Priests, Eisenhorn and more!
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Wow just wow
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