Battle Systems Terrain Kickstarter - Updates thread

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**RiTides**

Got it, thanks

. Is Hulk a decent value compared to Stronghold? It's more tempting to me, but I really would've liked to have the option to just get walls for use elsewhere without buying a set.

**GrimDork**

Oooh clean walls but what might they have suggested at 200k

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I think Hulk is of comparable value and includes the same stretchgoals as stronghold, but it's intended for a single level interior (why its called (space) hulk) instead of having parts included to allow for multiple levels and gantries etc.

**DaveC**

Stronghold (inc Stretch goals)

Wall 36
Doorway 14
Blast door 14
Transfer Conduit 5
Buttress 9
Strut 18
V Console 12
Command Screen 4
Single Stairs 4
Double Stairs 4
Wide Railing 32
Narrow Railing 28
Large Floor Tiles 9
chair 9
Small Floor Tiles 4
Spot Lights 20
Wall Converter 21
Clips 70+
24 Gantires
Turbine 1
Battle Table 2
Hanger Door 2
Clone Chamber 4
Cargo Crate 20

Spoiler:

versus

Hulk (inc Stretch Goals)

Wall 39
Doorway 15
Blast door 15
Transfer Conduit 5
Buttress 12
Strut 24
V Console 12
Command Screen 4
Large Floor Tiles 12
Chair 12
Small Floor Tiles 4
Clips
Turbine 1
Battle Table 2
Hanger Door 2
Clone Chamber 4
Cargo Crate 20

Spoiler:

**RiTides**

Thanks, DaveC! I'm surprised they didn't add a "Hulk" pledge level, seems like I won't be able to add add-ons later if I pledge for it at 1 pound.

Very tempted, may spring for it when home this afternoon

. Did anyone confirm if this is enough to actually play Space Hulk? Maybe not, but it looks amazing.

**DaveC**

Hulk was by backer request it's not something they planned to do or something I think they particularly want to do so that's why it's set up like this I guess they really just want to do lot's of prepacked Strongholds for ease of shipping. If you add the Hulk add on to the £1 level you can pick any of the other add ons as well - this is the only exception to the £1 level.

**GrimDork**

UPDATE! BUNKER/OUTSIDE WALLS!

To name a few!

Wow, gonna cost me a small fortune in the pledge manager, wish I could pile on some more now!

**DaveC**

Project Update #32: Fall back! Fall Back! Take cover in the ...
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BUNKER!!!

Ok, so it's here, some of you guessed right, it's the bunker.

The bunker is a set of outer walls that connect directly to the standard wall clips! Simply set floor tiles up in the shape you want, then surround them with your standard walls. Remove the ramps from the outside of the standard walls and replace them with the bunker walls. Done )

You can then add some divisions inside where you want and scatter it with room items.

I'm working on the tooling set up now so will be able to tell you how many tools it will take and this will then set the price. We've just done a small set-up here (as we were drawing and making this today!!!), but you can make a huge set up if you want.

Well I feel much safer in there )

Wow it fits so nicely )

CHARGE!!! hang on they left the door open, cool )

Avon calling!

Well we're coming in either way!

Yep it's 'Walls', COOL

So our next update should be able to explain the cost, but these are coming...

Damn I can't wait to play on these myself, ironically this will happen rarely. lol

Happy Gaming indeed )

Colin

Oh, and we're going for the big one! 200K!

**Yonan**

I want it, but with the deadzone terrain I don't really need the outer walls. Maybe enough for a front facing.

**GrimDork**

I think the DZ terrain and this will now be staying separate. But still together. This will serve as the permanent military bunker/installation built after the initial habtainer settlements and military habtainer upgrade modules have long since been in use.

Think of it! Set up a 2 or 4 x 6 board. Fight your way through the first 2x2' of the city in one scenario to push your way up into the second portion, finally ending in a daring bunker/command center assault

**pongo50**

Excellent idea - outside walls - the versatility of this set(s) will go through the roof!

**biggusdoggus**

Yonan wrote:
I want it, but with the deadzone terrain I don't really need the outer walls. Maybe enough for a front facing.

You don't have to buy the outer walls, they are an optional add-on.

**RiTides**

And I'm in for a Hulk

to use with my AvP minis!

Just getting one add-on, I'm thinking the med bay

**DaveC**

So the Bunker is well and truly unlocked

Project Update #33: Bunker Add-on components
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Ok, so the hardest part is getting the bunkers to the right ratio on a set. This is what we have been slaving over and testing the past few hours.

Bunker Base Set Add-On £40

Straight Wall x16 - Corner Wall x16 - Inverted Corner Wall x10 - Two-Way Corner Wall x8 -Straight Entrance x2 - Corner Entrance x2 - Double Corner Entrance x2 - Double Door Wall x2 + Blast Door x2

This will cover a stronghold all the way round when set up in a square. However it will also allow you to do many shapes and sizes from small bases to larger more complex set ups.

Here is a pic of just four possible lay outs. (Each drawn square is one standard floor tile of which you get 9 in a stronghold.) the small set up is the base I built in the photos in the last update.

Be amazed by my last minute sketch )

Here are the pics of the individual pieces.

PLEASE NOTE - You get the bunker outside wall piece, not the wall it is clipped to. These walls you already have in the pledges you picked.

Straight Wall

Corner Wall

Inverted Corner Wall

Two-Way Corner Wall

Standard Entrance

Corner Entrance

Double Corner Entrance

There are lots of fun configuration you can do, especially with the Double Corner Entrance and the Two-Ways. These are ace.

We have put this pack together to best suit set ups, just like we have with the stronghold.

Now grab yourself a bunker while they're hot!!!

Colin )

**GrimDork**

At $65ish im gonna haveto do some hard thinking. But it is definitely awesome

**Ruglud**

Can I pledge at the base £1 now then up to a pledge level (like Stronghold x1 @ £70) in the pledge manager?

**DaveC**

Stronghold is £78 (£8 shipping) but yes you can pledge £1 now and up in the pledge manager but there is a caveat to get the Stronghold (or Hulk) with all stretch goals rather than just a regular Stronghold (no SG) you must have upped your pledge and paid before they finalise their manufacturing numbers this could happen 2 to 4 weeks after the PM goes live they will know the exact date closer to the time - so if you leave it to long you will just get a basic Stronghold so there's only a small window to get the full deal. The PM will go out shortly after they get all the details from KS (in about 2 to 3 weeks) so you may have to lock in as early as the end of December or probably mid January at the latest

Battle Systems view stretch goals as a reward for people who back a level elligible for SG during the KS only but they are willing to allow a little leeway in the PM.

I know other KS have worked differently in this regard but each creator is free to set their own rules in this regard - just so long as everyone is aware ahead of time. Basically they can't order a load of extras on the off chance someone wants them later they need firm manufacturing numbers otherwise they will be stuck with a load of odds and ends they can't sell or at least make the money back on.

**RiTides**

Yeah, that's no issue as far as I'm concerned, since they're being very upfront about it and still giving people a window to add on in

**Ruglud**

Got ya, thanks for the info DaveC.

Going to have a word with my financial advisor (aka 'the wife') - this could spell the end of my 2014 hobby budget after Avp took a fair chunk already

**GrimDork**

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-modular-terrain/posts/680553

Update #34 infested walls! Just a sketch, and we can also buy walls and doorways as an addon now too

**DaveC**

alien walls anyone - OK down to concept art now also extra wall add on - you must be pledged at least at Outpost to buy add ons the only exception is by adding a Hulk add on to the £1 level.

Update #34

Dec 1, 2013
More Walls!
Comment

Infested Walls... Add on at £4 available from £216k.

Ok so it's been on the cards for some time now, but I think we can be assured that this is one that many will want... A set of Walls that have been either infested by an alien presence or damaged by some kind of warp event or space time issue )

You might want some ramps with that... £3.50

More Standard Walls... Add on at £4 available NOW!

People have been asking if they can buy just a few extra walls for their set, the answer now is yes. Grab yourself some extras, they are already to go. )

Lets see if we can make these available for you guys )

Colin

**GrimDork**

Its crazy that they're just *now* hitting concept art. They've been working around the clock to have things actually ready to show, its been awesome

**RiTides**

Agreed, I'm glad to be in now but wish I followed this more earlier, this is everything a kickstarter project should be, imo!

Only 40 minutes to go and the infested walls have unlocked

**GrimDork**

Sounds like that will be the last bit, they don't have time to get a piece costed up before the timer is going to run out. I think they did a great job rounding out the set though

I may spring for some extra walls (clean and infested) before it's over. Would probably need another $100 bucks to get bunker walls and variant walls during the manager... We'll see what xmas and my brithday bring about in terms of leverage

**DaveC**

28 minutes left they've called it a day on the stretch goals all that remains is to see where it ends.

**AHReese**

Even though it is called a stretch goal, the bunker walls are only available for the 40 pound add on correct?

**GamesNGears**

Congrats to Battle Systems

! We are glad we backed this one!

**RiTides**

Agreed, congrats! This was a fantastic success, and I hope means it will be around for a long time to come

**Yonan**

I thought they were stalling at ~120K, but they raked it in towards the end, very happy. They must be happy too, but they managed the campaign really well I think so they deserve it. Really glad I backed it, helping bring a great product to market and getting a good value sci-fi table that'll sort me (with Deadzone) for a long time I think.

The concrete outer walls and infested walls... they just may get more from me in the survey ; / 4x Battlezones already... so much... but the sting of the price should wear off by them, so that's something ; )

**Snrub**

Yeah i'm dreading the survey. I may just crumble and purchase 1 each of the add-ons. The med-bays and lockers & bunk beds are just to irresistible. Hopefully I'll have more money by the time it comes.

A Kickstarter well funded if you ask me. Glad I got on board.

**GrimDork**

Strongholds yonan, unless col and Wayne are selling you mantic products

. Went with $200 for a stronghold all unincluded addons leaving I think 20 pounds before docking bay... so 12 pounds to cover some clean and infested walls? Dunno about that. And the amazing bunker wall kit for $65ish... just about have to get them though because they seamlessly integrate the stronghold into a normal board with other terrain...

Survey is probably gonna nail me.