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Awesome, i think the eldar and ork captains already have decent buffs as is so all works out in the end.

Hmm... So something a little like warlord traits for the human captain then?

kind of but i think it should be chosen traits to represent human versatility.

I'm just tossing ideas around but maybe something like...

- Determined (bonus to LD)
- Diplomatic (Can join non-mercenary units as an independent character and the unit may use the captain's LD)
- Competative (Bonus in combat against enemy HQ)
- Diciplined (The captain and the unit it's attatched to does not fall back)

i think all but disciplined suits the captain (as he can flee combat etc) and i think the eldar guy should have disciplined based stuff. So yes to the first 3. care to expand on those for us?

Okay, we'll here goes nothing...

Determined:
The captain is unwilling to back down, even when his pay is at stake!
The captain's leadership is increased to 9 for the battle.

Diplomatic:
Some mercenary captains have shown a good ability to bargain and stay on the good side of their clients. (though this may just be a ploy to get more pay out of their clients). Either way, the captain has shown an ability to get along with (or cunningly manipulate) his clients.. The mercenary captain may join friendly non-merc units as an independent character and the unit may use its LD.

Competitive:
There are several mercenary captains that strive to be better than their targets, whether out of pure arrogance and pride or for the sake of sport. When the captain attacks an enemy HQ, it and the unit it's accompanying gains preferred enemy (whatever the HQ unit is).

SkavenLord wrote:
Okay, we'll here goes nothing...

Determined:
The captain is unwilling to back down, even when his pay is at stake!
The captain's leadership is increased to 9 for the battle.

Diplomatic:
Some mercenary captains have shown a good ability to bargain and stay on the good side of their clients. (though this may just be a ploy to get more pay out of their clients). Either way, the captain has shown an ability to get along with (or cunningly manipulate) his clients.. The mercenary captain may join friendly non-merc units as an independent character and the unit may use its LD.

Competitive:
There are several mercenary captains that strive to be better than their targets, whether out of pure arrogance and pride or for the sake of sport. When the captain attacks an enemy HQ, it and the unit it's accompanying gains preferred enemy (whatever the HQ unit is).

If you dont mind some changes:


Ruthless/Loved (which ever you want your mercinary to be):
The captains men are unwilling to back down, especially when pay is at stake! From their love of their captain, or from the fear of his wrath they drive on to do as he says.
The captain's leadership is increased to 9 and he may re roll failed moral tests for the duration of the battle. However this ability is lost if the captain decides to use his cowardice and greed special rule as his men see who he really is.

Charasmatic/deceitful (which ever you want your mercinary to be):
Some mercenary captains have shown a good ability to bargain and stay on the good side of their clients. (though this may just be a ploy to get more pay out of their clients). Either way, the captain has shown an ability to get along with (or cunningly manipulate) his clients.. The mercenary captain may join friendly non-merc units as an independent character and the unit may use its LD. However this ability is lost if the captain decides to use his cowardice and greed special rule as his men see who he really is.

Competitive/Blood Thirsty (which ever you want your mercinary to be):
There are several mercenary captains that strive to be better than their targets, whether out of pure arrogance and pride or for the sake of sport. When the captain attacks an enemy HQ, it and the unit it's accompanying gains preferred enemy (whatever the HQ unit is). This ability is not lost even if he uses his cowardice and greed special rule.

that lets it fit in more with his basic trait of greed and cowardice.

Nice!

Alright, so points are next right? Maybe say, 15 points each?

I was gonna make them free (just choose one) and have it part of the original price. Because the human greed trait isnt that great compared to the ork and eldar one.

Okay, what else do we need to add? (To the captains I mean)

hmmm i think we have a good selection. If you guys have anything to add let me know. If not ill make a version 2 thread with it all on the OP and we can go from there.


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Oh captains, i think standard equipment will be fine for them.

Standard equipment as in the equipment the usual HQ for their respective codex gets?

I was gonna give them human weapons and the eldar guy some basic eldar ones but i know nothing about orks. What are ork basic weapons?

Sluggas and choppas are the basic weapons. Sluggas are pistol weapons and choppas are basically your usual close combat weapon. For Warbosses, it's big choppas and Power Klaws. Maybe the odd shoota there too.

How much is a power klaw? in points?

25 if I recall correctly.

Awesome ill give the ork the option for a power klaw too. Anything in particular you want to add before version 1.02?

Let's see what it looks like first. Then we'll know what things we need to work on after that.
Are you putting this into a large post or a PDF? If it's a large post, maybe separate the units with the spoilers to divide them.

I was gonna do anew thread with spoilers in the OP and that way we have all the info there to go over it again in a clean nice new place.

Would that be necessary? I remember other threads that were doing this sort of thing (codex-ish stuff) that put all of the stats on the OP of the thread they were working on.

I could do that too

Ill try aim to do it tonight. Dont know why i was making it more complicated haha, just busy over this season at work. Yea ill do a biig write up in this OP

Looks like we're all busy these days.

Can't wait to see what it looks like!

Here's a couple:

Rogue Commissar (does the guy have a name?) - 90 Points - HQ


Sulkreth'Ma (You know, that kroot merc) - 90 Points - Elites (Monsterous Creature)


Not finished writing all of them up but it's a start. Anything on these two I missed?

Stealth on the kroot i think. Other than that i think thats those two in a nut shell. Thanks dude

I'm having a bit of trouble with the rogue mutants. Would you mind telling me what you and DatGuy agreed on for them please?

Ill let you know soonish, give me a couple of hours but its D6 random stats from memory.

Hello, sorry for being gone forever life got real hectic and busy. I see you guys did a lot. I think sticking to this thread is fine and just editing the op. With updates is fine. That rogue commissar. Does not have a name yet you can give him one if you want.

Yea work etc has kept me being on here for more than a few minutes at a time. Not long enough to move things to the OP. So i am also sorry. And name away if thats how you envisioned him.

Welcome back!

Well I was trying to assemble what we agreed on for the units and vehicles (as you probably saw with the commissar and the kroot merc). Well if you're both still busy, why don't you leave the assembling to me. I'll post what the assembled stats we've thought up on the thread and you two can look over them and correct me if I'm wrong or if I'm not sure about something, you can let me know. If either of you have time, you could maybe put some of them together too.

I second that notion