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2013/11/09 03:56:39
Subject: Re:Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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I don't know. He's become very friendly since the whole demon experience.
It could have been a female demon that was inside of him.
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2013/11/09 10:54:48
Subject: Re:Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Kaesoron wrote:I don't know. He's become very friendly since the whole demon experience.
It could have been a female demon that was inside of him.
What makes you think the demon was "female"?
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 amanita wrote:So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?
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2013/11/09 11:56:24
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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What makes you think the female deamon would even like men? :p Or even that gender would matter to exastential beings of another plane of reality?  If fulgrims gettig friendly, I like to think the daemon was just working with what was already there 
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2013/11/09 21:22:18
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Daemons don't have genders.
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2013/11/09 23:06:28
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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 PrehistoricUFO wrote:What the hell? This is all seriously in the books?
I haven't started the series yet but this is all pretty off-putting.
I wouldn't be. It's very rare to find this in the books and it really is in my opinion the best series the black library ever put out.
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2013/11/09 23:09:33
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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It's in there, but in the same way that finding nemo is about a man whos wife is brutally murdered by a serial killer and his son left crippled, and who in a cruel twist of fate is kidnapped years later, the father having to go across the world to find him with the help of a mentally handicapped woman. Depends how much you read into it
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2013/11/09 23:22:32
Subject: Re:Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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I have giggled much reading this thread. The Finding Nemo analogy was icing on the cake. Space Marines always seemed homo-erotic to me and the chaos ones were the most flamboyant. Don't forget that with their over sized CC weapons and silly cod pieces they also appear to be compensating for some sort of "shortage."
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2013/11/09 23:35:29
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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I never saw homoeroticism in the space marines, but I mean, hey, if that's what you want to see, don't let me stop your imagination.
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2013/11/10 00:55:59
Subject: Re:Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Spawn of Chaos
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There's pleanty of HH content that anyone with a suitably grotty, perverted mind (i.e. everyone ever) could interpret as borderline homoerotic. Afterall, it's what people do best. However, the argument that suits of armour having codpieces is somehow homoerotic or some form of overcompensation has always been... baffling to me. I mean, numerous different forms of personal armour over the years have contained codpieces. Why bother going to the effort of protecting your entire body if you're going to leave a big ol' weak spot in the middle?
I don't know, maybe some folk would rather charge into battle with their junk flapping about in the breeze...
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2013/11/10 01:09:20
Subject: Re:Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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 el_groovatore wrote:There's pleanty of HH content that anyone with a suitably grotty, perverted mind (i.e. everyone ever) could interpret as borderline homoerotic. Afterall, it's what people do best. However, the argument that suits of armour having codpieces is somehow homoerotic or some form of overcompensation has always been... baffling to me. I mean, numerous different forms of personal armour over the years have contained codpieces. Why bother going to the effort of protecting your entire body if you're going to leave a big ol' weak spot in the middle?
I don't know, maybe some folk would rather charge into battle with their junk flapping about in the breeze...
I think it's more in line with the usual female armour argument. Once you hit a certain level of armour, why does the groin/breast section really need to be that pronounced other than to draw attention to it? Plus theres the nipple armour:
And yes I know all the "But the romans did it!" counter arguments, but then the romans get the same homoerotic flak for it
And actually, i'm a little surprised no ones brought up ol' El'Johnson
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2013/11/10 01:42:15
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
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Actually the Greeks were famous for making their armour with nipples, belly buttons, 6-packs, etc. And it probably was homo-erotic.
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2013/11/10 09:40:31
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Romans actually. They took everything the Greeks did and added +10.
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You shouldn't be worried about the one bullet with your name on it, Boldric. You should be worried about the ones labelled "to whom it may concern"-from Blackadder goes Forth!
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2013/11/10 10:30:29
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Of course the Germans and Celts quite often went into battle naked!
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2013/11/10 15:38:43
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
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2013/11/11 09:12:47
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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 Troike wrote:Apparently, this picture is based upon actual dialogue in one of the books:
In all honesty, that is taken out of context from Galaxy in Flames. A lot less homoerotic in context.
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2013/11/11 09:36:55
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Preacher of the Emperor
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I know. I read the book before seeing that and didn't think "huh, this is gay" at the time.
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2013/11/11 11:35:57
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Actually, the objective of Greek armor (like most armor) was to INTIMIDATE, in this case by implying the wearer was a gak load stronger and more toned than you.
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So they have us surrounded? Excellent, now we can shoot in any direction we want!!!   
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2013/11/11 16:35:54
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Been Around the Block
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Given the way everyone drools over the memory of Hastur Sejanus, he must have made your average hot Space Marine look like a tyranid's bottom.
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2013/11/11 18:18:50
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
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 Endriu Death Coy wrote:Actually, the objective of Greek armor (like most armor) was to INTIMIDATE, in this case by implying the wearer was a gak load stronger and more toned than you.
Well yes. But when you remember people like the Sacred Band of Thebes you start to think there might be other reasons as well
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2013/11/11 22:07:34
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Primered White
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I would like to add that this started (atleast from literature that still exists) from city-states of current Greece region and was as liberal in there as in Rome.
As has been frequently noted, the ancient Greeks did not have terms or concepts that correspond to the contemporary dichotomy of ‘heterosexual’ and ‘homosexual’. There is a wealth of material from ancient Greece pertinent to issues of sexuality, ranging from dialogues of Plato, such as the Symposium, to plays by Aristophanes, and Greek artwork and vases. What follows is a brief description of ancient Greek attitudes, but it is important to recognize that there was regional variation. For example, in parts of Ionia there were general strictures against same-sex eros, while in Elis and Boiotia (e.g., Thebes), it was approved of and even celebrated (cf. Dover, 1989; Halperin, 1990).
Probably the most frequent assumption of sexual orientation is that persons can respond erotically to beauty in either sex. Diogenes Laeurtius, for example, wrote of Alcibiades, the Athenian general and politician of the 5th century B.C., “in his adolescence he drew away the husbands from their wives, and as a young man the wives from their husbands.” (Quoted in Greenberg, 1988, 144) Some persons were noted for their exclusive interests in persons of one gender. For example, Alexander the Great and the founder of Stoicism, Zeno of Citium, were known for their exclusive interest in boys and other men. Such persons, however, are generally portrayed as the exception. Furthermore, the issue of what gender one is attracted to is seen as an issue of taste or preference, rather than as a moral issue. A character in Plutarch's Erotikos (Dialogue on Love) argues that “the noble lover of beauty engages in love wherever he sees excellence and splendid natural endowment without regard for any difference in physiological detail.” (Ibid., 146) Gender just becomes irrelevant “detail” and instead the excellence in character and beauty is what is most important.
Pickett, Brent, "Homosexuality", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2011 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.),
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/spr2011/entries/homosexuality/
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2013/11/12 12:43:31
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Yes certainly the sacred band of Thebes is a cause for thinking that.
Then of course in sparta homosexual behaviour carried a death sentence....
I think it was Brasidas who said 'the athenians consider us effeminate for having our wives at banquets, we consider them effeminate for their love of young men....'
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So they have us surrounded? Excellent, now we can shoot in any direction we want!!!
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2013/11/12 18:04:52
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Then of course in sparta homosexual behaviour carried a death sentence....
Citation needed because... yeah. That's not what we're lead to understand about Sparta, nor what historical research has indicated:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece
This. Is. SPARTAAAAAA!!!!!
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2013/11/12 20:14:23
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Then where do all the baby Daemons come from?
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2013/11/12 21:15:26
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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o.0
Wat?
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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2013/11/12 21:57:27
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Brainless Zombie
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I had to try very hard to not laugh out loud and have everyone at work stare at me while reading this... keep it up. ;-)
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2013/11/12 22:04:07
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Preacher of the Emperor
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There aren't any baby Daemons. Daemons are made by the Chaos gods and the warp.
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2013/11/12 22:11:59
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Primered White
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In the same way as storks bring human babies to couples...
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2013/11/12 22:56:07
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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When a mommy Daemonette loves a daddy bloodletter VERY MUCH and hug in a special way, a pink stork comes along from papa nurgles workshop of elves, evades the inquisition on a 2+ and makes the mommy and daddy daemons very happy by leaving them a 'ittle bundle of death under the skulliflower in the garden.
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2013/11/13 03:13:36
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Regular Dakkanaut
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2013/11/13 04:00:48
Subject: Count the Moments of Homoeroticism in the Horus Heresy Series
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Troike wrote:
There aren't any baby Daemons. Daemons are made by the Chaos gods and the warp.
Then why do lady demons have boobs and nipples!
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