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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 21:02:43
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Is a turrent a special kind of currant?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 21:03:46
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Not really. It is a special kind of current.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 21:04:09
Subject: Re:GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Turrents are delicious, I have them for breakfast every morning.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 21:14:44
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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No, it's a typo for "turret" that Chrome didn't notice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 21:24:22
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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O'Ralai?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 21:34:11
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Nope.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 22:20:37
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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True story: you can often find a good deal on a Razorback or Predator top half by searching for this common typo.
Next week, I can tell you how to remove inches of belly fat with this one weird trick from a mom.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 23:00:33
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I suppose you could find a use for the big DA speeder as a base for a Predspeeder conversion...
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 23:03:46
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Ouze wrote:
True story: you can often find a good deal on a Razorback or Predator top half by searching for this common typo.
Next week, I can tell you how to remove inches of belly fat with this one weird trick from a mom.
Would you like to know more?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 23:22:43
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cryptek of Awesome wrote:There is a big difference between putting 3 insects on a base instead of a whole whopping 4 in order to squeeze out a few extra swarms to save some cash and saying "Herp Derp I'm going to chop all my space marines in half and have twice the army!"
Three Scarabs on a base is pretty much considered normal by a lot of people. They also happen to have three wounds.
I agree two scarabs on one base is too few, but if anyone would complain about three instead of four I would tell them to feth off.
Then again I don't play at tournaments/ GW stores so this will never be a problem anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/13 23:24:39
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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TBD wrote:[Three Scarabs on a base is pretty much considered normal by a lot of people. They also happen to have three wounds.
I agree two scarabs on one base is too few, but if anyone would complain about three instead of four I would tell them to feth off.
I also use 3, for the same reason. It just makes sense.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 00:49:36
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Ouze wrote: TBD wrote:[Three Scarabs on a base is pretty much considered normal by a lot of people. They also happen to have three wounds.
I agree two scarabs on one base is too few, but if anyone would complain about three instead of four I would tell them to feth off.
I also use 3, for the same reason. It just makes sense.
I only use two scarabs.
Then again, mine are the old 2nd Edition metal scarabs, and I can only fit two of them on the base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 01:07:14
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Dakka Veteran
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Ouze wrote:
True story: you can often find a good deal on a Razorback or Predator top half by searching for this common typo.
I used to get Raveners for cheap by searching for "Ravenors" on eBay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 01:22:27
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Fixture of Dakka
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I can't help but think I should make a new thread called. "Reasons Games Workshop would 'ban' my Warhammer army."
1) I use Gale Force 9 plaster as stones / rocks on my bases.
2) I have converted Sanquinary Priests with nartheciums
3)a) I paint my Codex: Blood Angels army as Blood Ravens
3)b) My Codex: Space Marines Blood Ravens army uses Blood Angels pieces and models. (EG, space hulk termies) - I'm a naughty proxier.
4) I planned on making a converted Storm Talon from a Nephilim Fighter
5) I use Captain Korvydae as an Assault Marine Sergeant.
6) I have some line models wielding duel pistols due to Rule of Cool. Similarly, I have models armed with duel infernus pistols.
7) I have some line models wielding duel chainswords due to Rule of Cool
8) My Imperial Guard Colonel that I've used for 16 years has a shotgun.
9) I use Cadian Shock Troopers as Veterans for my Mordian Iron Guard army
10) I used converted lascannons for my Vendetta conversion. Made before the forgeworld kit was released.
11) My Vulture uses the quad Missile Launcher pods as hellstrike missile hardpoints.
12) I use Ravenwing biker models as Blood Raven bikers. Cause, you know... They have... Ravens... Wings.
13) I have a kitbashed Techmarine model.
14) I use a Death Korps Commissar as a Lieutenant for my flamer wielding platoon command squad, who ride a chimera armed with a turreted heavy flamer.
15) I have a converted Baal Predator carrying an Imperial Guard autocannon in its turret.
16) My Dreadnought Drop Pods don't have the central crew harnesses in them. Because, that would be silly. That is now an 'unassembled' model.
Ok, some (much) of that list was slightly facetious but quite frankly, I don't want to pay hundreds of pounds to go to a Warhammer World event only to be told 'shove off, you can't play as your army doesn't meet my own personal interpretation subsection 3, paragraph 4 of The Warriors Code'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 01:28:15
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Blood Ravens are an unknown founding and are pretty much free to do whatever they want. Besides, having Chapter Tactics and Relics "gifted" to them is in character!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 01:45:11
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Whiteshield Conscript Trooper
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All in all, the standard "don't be a tardnugget" rules with a few troubling issues, should this get pushed out in the next edition:
"We do not define what fully painted is"- Why, so you could enforce this selectively? Not all of us are your damned 'Eavy Metal Painters.
"...Or we suspect a model falls under this criteria.."- so...if I model Berets and Peacoats on my shooting cultists to look like the 1980's IRA and Life Preservers to make my melee ones look like Somali Pirates, you'll ask me to remove it ? even though it is obvious that they're heretical IG, themed like terrorists to be used as cannon fodder...er...brothers in arms for my Night Lords. Yeah....I am sure that'll go over really well after getting recorded and put up on YouTube, not the obligatory defamation/slander suit or five from experienced modellers whom you incorrectly guessed.
"Please note: Simply painting your bases a
certain colour is not enough. A good example
of the minimum standard we expect are Citadel
textured paints, as they cover texture and
colour quite nicely in one quick easy to apply package."- this is a blatant attempt to sell product. So...once again, GW, you're going to kick out all those modellers with older armies painted under previous editions? Two words: BITE ME.
Warhammer World, since the hamster in your brain housing group has apparently died on the wheel, I dub thee Dubya Dubya, and say that you deserve the loss in revenue for the UK AND yourselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 02:00:53
Subject: Rumored GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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dkellyj wrote:The day GW starts to provide serious support to the Tourny scene is the day they can start dictating rules on what is acceptable and what is not.
There's a logic fallacy hidden in your statement somewhere. I'll let you think on it for a while. Here's a hint if you need it:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 02:52:43
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Battleship Captain
The Land of the Rising Sun
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For now.
That's the point we are trying to make some of us. If this code becomes compulsory some will say how's GW going to enforce it? The same way they treat rumours right now.
If FLGS allows proxies they'll be cut from the early release loop. Hey it's a trade contract, they can do it if they feel like even if it's insane but lately GW has not been very sane in certain areas of their conduct.
M.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 03:10:36
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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This thread is starting to make me think of some song lyrics. I believe they go:
Paranoia, paranoia
Everybody's coming to get me
Yeah, that's the bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 05:20:31
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Charging Orc Boar Boy
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My ork army would have no chance... I use rhinos as trukks a land speeder and pirahna as buggies have looted big guns (they are the other gun you can put on a hammer head) and a dreadnaught as a deff dread.
They are painted well and blue for death skulls for a themed army but still.
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Stikk bommas are special among ork society for one reason - They know when you pull the pin out of a stikk bomb you throw the bomb not the pin!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/17 05:03:31
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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The headline everybody seems to have missed is that in these rules (guidelines? no, rules) GW have actually acknowledged the existence of other model making companies!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 06:17:14
Subject: Re:GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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The New Miss Macross!
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When attending events at Warhammer World, we require that you abide by The Warrior’s Code, which is
designed to ensure everyone taking part has a fantastic experience. We expect that:
1. All your miniatures have been produced by Games Workshop (Citadel, Forge World or Warhammer Forge)."
I'm not sure how that rule's primary goal is to "ensure everyone taking part has a fantastic experience" unless we're taking Tom Kirby's potential feelings and retirement nest egg into account. In a way, though, I can't blame them for disallowing other people's products from their events held at their own locations if they're also not allowing *THEIR OWN* models as proxies or conversions unless approved in advance. At least they're not being entirely hypocritical this time around...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 06:24:14
Subject: Rumored GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments
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Breotan wrote:dkellyj wrote:The day GW starts to provide serious support to the Tourny scene is the day they can start dictating rules on what is acceptable and what is not.
There's a logic fallacy hidden in your statement somewhere. I'll let you think on it for a while. Here's a hint if you need it:
No fallacy at all. If its a GW sponsored event in a GW store and they want to make modeling/list rules for their event...then they can do that. (though you would hope they publish those rules ahead of time so someone doesn't spend the time/money going to the event only to be booted because some guy does not like his conversions).
But if they want to dictate those rules to FLGS and Indi-Tournys...they better be coughing up some serious prize support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 06:41:55
Subject: Re:Rumored GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:
Dakka commentator makes up a bunch of extra stuff and complains about the extra stuff.
Business as usual.
We've played Throne of Skulls under those rules, taken our own design Mycetic Spores made of 80p polystyrene eggs and, even, ymgarls with chapterhouse cthulu heads, and those bloody red shirts had the cheek to compliment the army and give us a glass trophy! The horror! The horror!
I don't think you'll be getting away with that again!
Having said that - the rules seem reasonable from GW's perspective, and won't have any impact on almost all of us.
Automatically Appended Next Post: nkelsch wrote:
No Proxies: Reasonable - A Landspeeder is not a Predator. It is not a clever conversion, it is not a cool 'Counts as' it fails rule of cool. It is someone turning starter box trash into 'coke can' proxies.
Not having seen the conversion, you can't really say jack gak about it, particularly whether or not it's cool or not. I've seen some fething cool conversions of Landspeeders into FAV attack bikes. It could look brilliant, average or crap. A LS Vengeance could easily go either way, and it's about the right size for a Pred, as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 06:50:05
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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I can see the no conversions rule making people rightly pi$$ed off.
I can see why they would do that (to make people buy models that are really pricey instead of converting a cheaper model) but i think it stinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 06:57:16
Subject: Rumored GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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techsoldaten wrote:I don't go to tournaments, so I don't care what silly little rules GW forces upon players.
But it seems to me people should be upset about this. Who is GW is judge what standard an army should be at? Even with the dumbed down tutorials, most people can't achieve the level of quality they do in their books.
And why should GW be making rulings about converted models and paint schemes? It seems to me this is a hobby, people should be able to do what they want. Tournaments are supposed to be a way to capture the best aspects of the community, not the most technically proficient or the most adherent to arbitrary rules.
There's nothing about White Dwarf level painting. It's clearly to prevent abuse of the "3-colour rule", and actually allows nicely-painted grey armies that might not feature a lot of colours. As far as making rules, they can do what they want in their own building. As stated, it doesn't have any effect on 99.99% of us. If you don't like those rules, don't play at WHW. Simples!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 06:57:26
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Battleship Captain
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ClockworkZion wrote:This thread is starting to make me think of some song lyrics. I believe they go:
Paranoia, paranoia
Everybody's coming to get me
Yeah, that's the bit.
This comes from the same company that claimed grenade launcher, halberd and plasma as trademarks in the chapterhouse suit. It's not farfetched to think that they are at it again trying to make stick some inhouse policy as a general rule.
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Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 07:08:57
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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sennacherib wrote:I can see the no conversions rule making people rightly pi$$ed off.
I can see why they would do that (to make people buy models that are really pricey instead of converting a cheaper model) but i think it stinks.
You may need your eyes checked. Only full proxies where banned, conversions are on a case-by-case approval basis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 08:13:30
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Miguelsan wrote:For now.
That's the point we are trying to make some of us. If this code becomes compulsory some will say how's GW going to enforce it? The same way they treat rumours right now.
If FLGS allows proxies they'll be cut from the early release loop. Hey it's a trade contract, they can do it if they feel like even if it's insane but lately GW has not been very sane in certain areas of their conduct.
M.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 09:34:06
Subject: GW 'Warrior's Code' for Tournaments (True but distorted) and Plastic Thunderhawk/Sisters
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Calculating Commissar
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While I enjoy rampant and baseless speculation as much as the next bloke, this is egregiously pointless. The plastic Thunderhawk thing is, for the first time, not the most outrageously stupid part of a rumor, but that still doesn't make it in any way likelier to be true.
There will not be a GW Gestapo cutting off stores that refuse to adhere to a mythical document. There will not be plastic Sisters. There will not be a plastic Thunderhawk. The unsourced statements of a couple of faceless Internet avatars can safely be ignored until they present some actual hard evidence.
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