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Let's file this under First World Problems (instead of Racist Hispanic Woman Making Stuff Up Because She Wants To Be Black/Gay, Too).
Nathan Harden wrote:Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich is Racist, Says Portland School Official



Did you know that eating or even talking about a peanut butter and jelly sandwich could be considered racist?

That’s right.

Apparently, it’s because people in some cultures don’t eat sandwich bread. Verenice Gutierrez, principal of Harvey Scott K-8 School in Portland explained in and interview with the Portland Tribune:
“Take the peanut butter sandwich, a seemingly innocent example a teacher used in a lesson last school year,” the Tribune said.

“What about Somali or Hispanic students, who might not eat sandwiches?” Gutierrez asked. “Another way would be to say: ‘Americans eat peanut butter and jelly, do you have anything like that?’ Let them tell you. Maybe they eat torta. Or pita.”

The Tribune noted that the school started the new year with “intensive staff trainings, frequent staff meetings, classroom observations and other initiatives,” to help educators understand their own “white privilege,” in order to “change their teaching practices to boost minority students’ performance.”"Last Wednesday, the first day of the school year for staff, for example, the first item of business for teachers at Scott School was to have a Courageous Conversation — to examine a news article and discuss the ‘white privilege’ it conveys,” the Tribune added.

Gutierrez completed a week-long seminar called “Coaching for Educational Equity,” a program the Tribune says focuses “on race and how it affects life.” She also serves on an administrative committee that focuses on systematic racism.

“Our focus school and our Superintendent’s mandate that we improve education for students of color, particularly Black and Brown boys, will provide us with many opportunities to use the protocols of Courageous Conversations in data teams, team meetings, staff meetings, and conversations amongst one another,” she said in a letter to staff.
You can read more about principal Gutierrez’s sandwich-sensitivity philosophy here.

Next time you’re in the bread aisle at the grocery store, you may want to think twice. Sensitive liberal educators are now recommending the “torta” or the “pita” as a more culturally inclusive alternative.

Now that you’ve been made aware of the evil of PB&J, there’s only one question left to answer: Is white bread more racist than whole wheat?



 
   
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Peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Yuk.

Is it now discriminatory to point out the weird stuff you eat over there, I hope not.

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“white privilege,”


Ah. The new race card. The equivalent of "I'm not racist but", but even worse because of the hypocritical nature of the racism involved in the accusation. As soon as anyone says that or Male Privilege they instantly negate the rest of the argument no matter how valid.

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But you can't taste the racism.

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 Ahtman wrote:
But you can't taste the racism.


Well, if it tastes anything like homophobia; then it probably tastes delicious. Damn you, Chik-Fil-A!


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By the look of that sandwich you could probably do with branching out a little... So while it's not racist, it might be better in the long run.

   
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I don't see why americans insist on putting jam on peanut butter. I have had one (made by an american using american ingredients) and it basically tasted like a peanut butter sandwich. Why bother with the jam?

I get the impression that some people trawl the internet looking for stories simply to bait dakka with.

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This story is over a year old:

Created on Thursday, 06 September 2012 01:00

http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity


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I don't mind a PB and J, but I do usually skip the J and just do the PB. Honey Roasted PB...

 
   
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 d-usa wrote:
This story is over a year old:

Created on Thursday, 06 September 2012 01:00

http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity


Do we not have anything new to be upset about?



Clearly none of us had heard about it. Keep practicing your mini mod there D, you're working miracles.
   
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 KingCracker wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
This story is over a year old:

Created on Thursday, 06 September 2012 01:00

http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity


Do we not have anything new to be upset about?



Clearly none of us had heard about it. Keep practicing your mini mod there D, you're working miracles.


I could have sworn that we had a thread here about it, but my search has left me empty.

Doesn't change the whole "why is a random blogger pissed today and talking about stupid gak that happened 14 months ago" question though. Must be a slow "sucks to be white" news day for them.
   
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 Palindrome wrote:
I don't see why americans insist on putting jam on peanut butter. I have had one (made by an american using american ingredients) and it basically tasted like a peanut butter sandwich. Why bother with the jam?


Jelly, not jam. (Although, over there, you might call our jelly jam. Not sure).

Sounds like not enough jelly was used.

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Now I'm curious on what is called "torta" there, since we speak Spanish in my country and torta means cake /:

   
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 kronk wrote:
 Palindrome wrote:
I don't see why americans insist on putting jam on peanut butter. I have had one (made by an american using american ingredients) and it basically tasted like a peanut butter sandwich. Why bother with the jam?


Jelly, not jam. (Although, over there, you might call our jelly jam. Not sure).

Sounds like not enough jelly was used.


Jelly in British English (as opposed to proper American English) means Jell-o, I believe. Gelatin.
   
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 Dark wrote:
Now I'm curious on what is called "torta" there, since we speak Spanish in my country and torta means cake /:


In Mexico, and therefore in many parts of the US, a torta is a type of sandwich, which makes the section where she says that they don't eat sandwiches, they eat tortas, a very strange thing.


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Jelly is this:


Jam is the red stuff on this:


At least that's what it is in the civilized world.
   
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That would be jelly (or jam, they're often interchangeable) in the US. The top one would be Jell-o, regardless of who the gelatin manufacturer actually is.

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 Dark wrote:
Now I'm curious on what is called "torta" there, since we speak Spanish in my country and torta means cake /:


It's used for allot of things, meaning different things in different Spanish speaking countries, but in this case I assume she means the Mexican meaning which is basically a bread roll.

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 Ahtman wrote:
 Dark wrote:
Now I'm curious on what is called "torta" there, since we speak Spanish in my country and torta means cake /:


In Mexico, and therefore in many parts of the US, a torta is a type of sandwich, which makes the section where she says that they don't eat sandwiches, they eat tortas, a very strange thing.



That's a sandwich /).< or the most localize will call it "sanguche" which be a phonetic aproximation.

Ask for cake here and you'll get this:




or this too (because as a modism inherited from Spain, torta also means a punch iin the face, so be careful xD)[/color]


   
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 kronk wrote:

Sounds like not enough jelly was used.


It was about 2/3rds peanut butter and 1/3rd jam (well grape jelly, which tasted nothing like grapes).

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Will they be scrapping teaching in English as that is racist?

   
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 SilverMK2 wrote:
Will they be scrapping teaching in English as that is racist?


In primary school, we didn't learn "English", we learnt "Literacy", and we were encouraged to call English Literacy. That didn't work out too well.

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 Breotan wrote:
Let's file this under First World Problems (instead of Racist Hispanic Woman Making Stuff Up Because She Wants To Be Black/Gay, Too).
Nathan Harden wrote:Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich is Racist, Says Portland School Official



Did you know that eating or even talking about a peanut butter and jelly sandwich could be considered racist?

That’s right.

Apparently, it’s because people in some cultures don’t eat sandwich bread. Verenice Gutierrez, principal of Harvey Scott K-8 School in Portland explained in and interview with the Portland Tribune:
“Take the peanut butter sandwich, a seemingly innocent example a teacher used in a lesson last school year,” the Tribune said.

“What about Somali or Hispanic students, who might not eat sandwiches?” Gutierrez asked. “Another way would be to say: ‘Americans eat peanut butter and jelly, do you have anything like that?’ Let them tell you. Maybe they eat torta. Or pita.”

The Tribune noted that the school started the new year with “intensive staff trainings, frequent staff meetings, classroom observations and other initiatives,” to help educators understand their own “white privilege,” in order to “change their teaching practices to boost minority students’ performance.”"Last Wednesday, the first day of the school year for staff, for example, the first item of business for teachers at Scott School was to have a Courageous Conversation — to examine a news article and discuss the ‘white privilege’ it conveys,” the Tribune added.

Gutierrez completed a week-long seminar called “Coaching for Educational Equity,” a program the Tribune says focuses “on race and how it affects life.” She also serves on an administrative committee that focuses on systematic racism.

“Our focus school and our Superintendent’s mandate that we improve education for students of color, particularly Black and Brown boys, will provide us with many opportunities to use the protocols of Courageous Conversations in data teams, team meetings, staff meetings, and conversations amongst one another,” she said in a letter to staff.
You can read more about principal Gutierrez’s sandwich-sensitivity philosophy here.

Next time you’re in the bread aisle at the grocery store, you may want to think twice. Sensitive liberal educators are now recommending the “torta” or the “pita” as a more culturally inclusive alternative.

Now that you’ve been made aware of the evil of PB&J, there’s only one question left to answer: Is white bread more racist than whole wheat?




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 Palindrome wrote:
 kronk wrote:

Sounds like not enough jelly was used.


It was about 2/3rds peanut butter and 1/3rd jam (well grape jelly, which tasted nothing like grapes).


He should have used strawberry instead. Or better yet, cut up a banana and put the slices between the bread.

Either way, surely it's less of an abomination than baked beans on toast.

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I don't really see what this has to do with racism. Sounds more like people overreacting, and trying to make a scandal out of nothing (as usual).

All she said is that people from other cultures might not be familiar with ( what we consider) everyday things like a sandwich. This is perfectly true.

So if you are teaching people from other cultures, it is a good idea to be mindful of this, instead of egocentrically yammering on about things they've never heard of.

Even between the US and UK: jelly would not necessarily be understood as the same thing. Here jelly is usually what Americans refer to as jello. Putting it in a sandwich sounds weird and gross. As I'm sure dipping chips in ketchup sounds weird to Americans.
   
 
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