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Okay so I'm going to be starting up a new Death Guard colour scheme based around the remnants of Garro's crew on the Eisenstein and I was wonder what people thought about my colour scheme ideas.

Now I know for certain I'm using the pre- Nurgly scheme and not going to be going for the usual green but an emerald/jade colour.
1) because that's how it's described in the HH books and 2) I think it'll make a change from all the other green/cream looking DG armies.
Oh and I'm going for more of a white than a cream

The conflict lies with the choice of weathering. To weather of not to weather?
One the one had I want to stick with the fluff idea of it being a bunch of guys who've been through hell (rather literally)...
And on the other I want to do something different from the stereotype for both DG and FW models in generally and go for the clean look.

So that is my question: what are your thought? Cheers

EDIT: added polling option

It would be much easier to offer an opinion on weathering if you could show us a few pictures.

 darefsky wrote:
It would be much easier to offer an opinion on weathering if you could show us a few pictures.

going to be starting was kind of the key... At the moment I'm waiting for an order on some parts for Garro and his command squad

weathered. It'll also cut down on the jade being too bright

The other option is "neat" weathering - as painting on little chips and stuff as opposed to going with the FW powers and such


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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
weathered. It'll also cut down on the jade being too bright

That's half the reason I don't want to weather haha
Then again it's a valid point
Might have to wait and see what it looks like...

moderate/light weathering. Vote was nit submitted, because squaky clean looks off, and outright gritty like post-heresy.... well... that looks post heresy.

Here is my scheme:



I did weather them. Nicks, scratches, etc, but no rust.

Weather it, weather it, weather it. You obviously have the skills so get after it! I would try staying away from those flyer rods, they look like garbage and wreck up your gorgious models IMHO.

What food above me said plus abit of osl on them plasmas would help it out.

 kronicpsycho wrote:
What food above me said plus abit of osl on them plasmas would help it out.

I don't know, I'm okay with this as is. maybe a tiny trim of OSL around the rim, but, I'm not convinced the OSL will make it all that much better

It just looks a bit plain at the moment is all. Nothing to much but it needs something else.

 kronicpsycho wrote:
It just looks a bit plain at the moment is all. Nothing to much but it needs something else.

but what's wrong with that? If everything is OTT, how will you go and make characters stand out? I think there's something to be said for having stuff that's "a bit plain"

Imnewherewheresthebathroom wrote:
Weather it, weather it, weather it. You obviously have the skills so get after it! I would try staying away from those flyer rods, they look like garbage and wreck up your gorgious models IMHO.

Not my stuff...

I'd weather them. These are the guys that survived Istvaan and then flew through the Warp, they've been through a lot and to leave them clean would break the illusion. If you're wanting something different, then I'd go with a more careful and selective weathering/chipping, rather than going all out with the powders and chips. Pay attention to where chips would occurs ect rather than just everywhere.

I'm pretty sure the DG didn't like to wash their equipment all that much if I remember correctly... I always assumed it was a Legion superstition-type thing, you earn your grime. I know they were mentioning Typhons armor specifically being dirty. I loved Flight of the Eisenstein.

 Paradigm wrote:
I'd weather them. These are the guys that survived Istvaan and then flew through the Warp, they've been through a lot and to leave them clean would break the illusion. If you're wanting something different, then I'd go with a more careful and selective weathering/chipping, rather than going all out with the powders and chips. Pay attention to where chips would occurs ect rather than just everywhere.

this is what I've been thinking. Yesterday I considered re-reading the book and nothing down all the injuries and little scratches the main characters took. That was just a moment of the insane perfectionist inside me brought out by the following book though

 Paradigm wrote:
I'd weather them. These are the guys that survived Istvaan and then flew through the Warp, they've been through a lot and to leave them clean would break the illusion. If you're wanting something different, then I'd go with a more careful and selective weathering/chipping, rather than going all out with the powders and chips. Pay attention to where chips would occurs ect rather than just everywhere.

re-read the title of the thread. It's the specific reason for which I'm saying not to grime it up so much, because they've not given in to the warp yet, so their armor shouldn't be rusted, covered with growths and oozing pus.

Pre heresy the Death Guard tended to leave any damage or marking on there armor from battle (as long as does not effect the functionality of said armor) It was basically the closest thing they got to battle honors as the detested ornamentation of any kind.

So yeah I would go ham with the weathering.

 poda_t wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
I'd weather them. These are the guys that survived Istvaan and then flew through the Warp, they've been through a lot and to leave them clean would break the illusion. If you're wanting something different, then I'd go with a more careful and selective weathering/chipping, rather than going all out with the powders and chips. Pay attention to where chips would occurs ect rather than just everywhere.

re-read the title of the thread. It's the specific reason for which I'm saying not to grime it up so much, because they've not given in to the warp yet, so their armor shouldn't be rusted, covered with growths and oozing pus.

He's not saying that they had given themselves to the warp, Garro's men had been travelling in the warp for some time and had experienced some pretty up and close fighting so they should be pretty weathered.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 poda_t wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
I'd weather them. These are the guys that survived Istvaan and then flew through the Warp, they've been through a lot and to leave them clean would break the illusion. If you're wanting something different, then I'd go with a more careful and selective weathering/chipping, rather than going all out with the powders and chips. Pay attention to where chips would occurs ect rather than just everywhere.

re-read the title of the thread. It's the specific reason for which I'm saying not to grime it up so much, because they've not given in to the warp yet, so their armor shouldn't be rusted, covered with growths and oozing pus.

He's not saying that they had given themselves to the warp, Garro's men had been travelling in the warp for some time and had experienced some pretty up and close fighting so they should be pretty weathered.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Not that they are at all chaotic, but Garro's men aboard the Eisenstein had a pretty rough time of it, having fought their way out of the Istvaan purging and then a pretty hectic flight through the Warp. I'm talking about battle damage that would result from such actions, not chaotic mutations or growths.

 Paradigm wrote:

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 poda_t wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
I'd weather them. These are the guys that survived Istvaan and then flew through the Warp, they've been through a lot and to leave them clean would break the illusion. If you're wanting something different, then I'd go with a more careful and selective weathering/chipping, rather than going all out with the powders and chips. Pay attention to where chips would occurs ect rather than just everywhere.

re-read the title of the thread. It's the specific reason for which I'm saying not to grime it up so much, because they've not given in to the warp yet, so their armor shouldn't be rusted, covered with growths and oozing pus.

He's not saying that they had given themselves to the warp, Garro's men had been travelling in the warp for some time and had experienced some pretty up and close fighting so they should be pretty weathered.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Not that they are at all chaotic, but Garro's men aboard the Eisenstein had a pretty rough time of it, having fought their way out of the Istvaan purging and then a pretty hectic flight through the Warp. I'm talking about battle damage that would result from such actions, not chaotic mutations or growths.

Note: they weren't on istvaan... The only damage would've been from the daemons and grulgors men

 Brother Payne wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 poda_t wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
I'd weather them. These are the guys that survived Istvaan and then flew through the Warp, they've been through a lot and to leave them clean would break the illusion. If you're wanting something different, then I'd go with a more careful and selective weathering/chipping, rather than going all out with the powders and chips. Pay attention to where chips would occurs ect rather than just everywhere.

re-read the title of the thread. It's the specific reason for which I'm saying not to grime it up so much, because they've not given in to the warp yet, so their armor shouldn't be rusted, covered with growths and oozing pus.

He's not saying that they had given themselves to the warp, Garro's men had been travelling in the warp for some time and had experienced some pretty up and close fighting so they should be pretty weathered.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Not that they are at all chaotic, but Garro's men aboard the Eisenstein had a pretty rough time of it, having fought their way out of the Istvaan purging and then a pretty hectic flight through the Warp. I'm talking about battle damage that would result from such actions, not chaotic mutations or growths.

Note: they weren't on istvaan... The only damage would've been from the daemons and grulgors men

That still would have left in a pretty battered state.

I understood that they were on istvaan.

Apparently, he did not fight on Istvaan itself (I got confused there, he just helped Tarvitz reach the surface) but was attacked by Gruglor and also bombarded by Terminus Est, before spending the rest of the flight to Terra fighting Zombie Plague Marines. Still a pretty rough time, all things considered.

From a less fluffy and more aesthetic point of view, I still think neat weathering is the way to go. Especially with white/cream armour, it may end up looking pretty flat if there's nothing to break it up.

yeah, garro didn't fight on istvaan... there were a bunch of characters that didn't fight on istvaan, but the legions were definitely committed on the ground. Qruze also wasn't on the ground....

 poda_t wrote:
yeah, garro didn't fight on istvaan... there were a bunch of characters that didn't fight on istvaan, but the legions were definitely committed on the ground. Qruze also wasn't on the ground....

Pretty much this.