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More GZ DE resin plastic pics

Size comparison between GZ DE Sorceress, GW Beastman, Mierce Tarvax


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Summary:

Excellent material, very easy to work with - more resin than plastic
Super duper cheap
Some flash and mold lines
Crisp details

Overall: A-/B+

Superior to metal, finecast resins, pvc "restic"

All looking very good!

They've just posted an update about the new game board. Looks really neat, similar enough to the original to allow you to replay the old quests, but tweaked slightly to mix games up a little bit.



Full update is here

Very nice! Technically unique but functionally similar gameboard. Actually, there is a significant change in all 4 corners and the middle.

Thanks for that post judgedoug, been wondering what their plastic is like for a long time now.

In many ways I'm wondering if surging ahead with converting their metal lines to that new material would be a much better use of their efforts at this point in time.

For the most part it seems to be priced similarly to Mantic restic so if the material is superior then they're really on to something.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Thanks for that post judgedoug, been wondering what their plastic is like for a long time now.

In many ways I'm wondering if surging ahead with converting their metal lines to that new material would be a much better use of their efforts at this point in time.

For the most part it seems to be priced similarly to Mantic restic so if the material is superior then they're really on to something.

Well they recently released their high elf spearmen in that material (http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/en/elves/1625-03-90p-caja-lanceros-veteranos-resina-plastica.html)


And obviously the resinplastic Crossbowmen have yet to be released as well as the Sorceress.

So perhaps the DE spearmen and cavalry were a test - in which case, Great Success!

It's cheaper than restic, has better detail, less mold lines. Well, I guess, depending. Some of my restic models are excellent (mawbeasts, gore riders, veer-myn, to give credit where credit's due)

I'll probably order the GZ High Elf spearmen too, once they release another kit or officially release the DE crossbowmen (larger orders are better as they refund VAT for orders over 90,15E for USA customers)

How do they size up with the GW DE?

They seem a bit larger then you'd expect.

Do they suffer from Finecraft-itis? Saggy weapons/ bendy figures?

 Grot 6 wrote:
How do they size up with the GW DE?

They seem a bit larger then you'd expect.

Do they suffer from Finecraft-itis? Saggy weapons/ bendy figures?

Hmm, I'll have to check to see if I own any GW DE (don't think I do). I have lots of GW HE I can post a comparison of. Would that work? I also have: GW Empire & Tomb Kings, Mordheim, Mantic Elves/Dwarves/Goblins/Orcs, Avatars of War dwarves, 40k Eldar, AT-43 UNA and Therians, Confrontation Lion/Ram/Wolfen, Perry AWI, Warlord Bolt Action US/Germans, Warlord ECW, Fife & Drum, more... let me know

They are definitely not spongey like Finecast. Much more rigid. Since they give you extra spears I think I'll try the bend/break test tonight.

Have a friend who got a box of the spears and dark riders. The spears were bent, but nothing good old hot water can't fix and they didn't appear to bend back.

Have some green stuff ready though for the horses. There are some major gaps between the neck and body.

Scale wise, I recall GZ being slightly smaller, but that was next to the high flying witch elves.

I would not refer to these figs as a sign of sculpting quality for the HQ25 figs. These were traditionally sculpted and by a different sculptor who supposedly doesn't work for GZ anymore.

I don't have the minis available in order to post a pic (may do so in the first chance) but they are smaller than the GW Dark Elves, especially from the corsairs release and after (they are a bit closer to old Black Guards but still smaller). I am not sure if I should group of 25mm or 28mm but they are definitely not GW heroic size.
In any case great minis and great prices for what they meant to be used to.

Guys, I realized last night that the material is almost exactly like Trollcast. As I am a huge fan of that material, from my huge Red Box Games Helsvakt KS pledge, I was made even happier. It's sturdy and holds an amazing level of detail.

 judgedoug wrote:
Guys, I realized last night that the material is almost exactly like Trollcast. As I am a huge fan of that material, from my huge Red Box Games Helsvakt KS pledge, I was made even happier. It's sturdy and holds an amazing level of detail.

Oh damn, that is really good news. Trollcast is great material. It takes sanding and cleaning of lines REALLY well.

I have a feeling these will be less heroic scale, but could potentially be really great.

Thanks for that review Judgedoug, very informative!

The tiles look interesting, the project is looking better and better.

nkelsch wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Guys, I realized last night that the material is almost exactly like Trollcast. As I am a huge fan of that material, from my huge Red Box Games Helsvakt KS pledge, I was made even happier. It's sturdy and holds an amazing level of detail.

Oh damn, that is really good news. Trollcast is great material. It takes sanding and cleaning of lines REALLY well.

I have a feeling these will be less heroic scale, but could potentially be really great.

Speaking just about the dwarves, I would say they are a pretty good fit for the older GW and metal dwarves. Not the newer GW plastics so much, which are basically a beard with feet, but I've got some of the older GW engineers and Mordheim dwarves and they fit perfectly with the GZ ones (even within the same unit).

Not sure how relevant that will be for Heroquest, but just thought I would share my experience of GZ's other miniatures.

Petrified Gargoyle render the plinth is a bit plain but the gargoyle looks great, EDIT - ah the plinth is hollow so something can go in it and the gargoyle can be removed from it explains the design.




EDIT:

The first add ons:

1. Bone pack: 4 zombies, 4 skeletons and 2 mummies €10
2. Green pack: 6 goblins, 8 orcs €14
3. Modular board (individual tiles) 23 rooms and 28 corridors. Single sided with the Alfa board pattern only. €22


Pack 2 corresponds to the extra contents of the Kellers Keep expansion (without the Fimir) and Pack 1 seems to be based on Return of the Witch Lord but it's short a few minis (The Silent Passages needs 12 Skeletons)

I thought they were replacing the Fimir with Dragonmen or something like that?

Bookcases

If those cast like they look there

SWEET!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
If those cast like they look there

SWEET!

Seconded!

That is so... cute(?!)

Looks great, if the rest of the terrain bits keep to that standard can see this becoming a lot more popular.

That looks awesome, they're supposedly going to have multiple, interchangeable shelves too.

I'm going to have to back this now

Has anyone who paid via PayPal actually been charged yet?

My "pre-approved" plan has just been "approved" for a week.

I finally broke down and pledged last night. Wonder how long after the campaign ends before we get an e-mail from GZ saying they're renaming the game

Paying by Credit Card was a bit of a pain as it got flagged; I had to call my CC company to confirm it was me and then re-pledge. Never had that happen before for an international transaction.

Triple9 wrote:
I finally broke down and pledged last night. Wonder how long after the campaign ends before we get an e-mail from GZ saying they're renaming the game

It has been already, the Jan 11 update - different countries will get differently named versions

the tl;dr version is
three editions of the game

HeroQuest 25th Anniversary, Founder Edition
for the backers

HeroQuest 25th Anniversary, Retail Edition
"This is the anniversary edition That will reach the stores in Spain and the others ultimately from country clubs with Which We eat to a distribution agreement With. It will be available on Christmas 2014 while stock lasts at a price Between 85 and 95 euros."

HeroQuest Classic
"Identical to the ones with previously described, except for the box design and the lack of any reference to the 25th anniversary. This will be the only edition you will find in stores Regularly (including ours) from 2015 onwards."

WIP on the reverse side of the main board- not quite what I was expecting when they said outdoors apparently it's based on a town layout the outer ruins of the Coast of the Dead Cities as they call it given they are unlocking a Vampire type expansion at the moment it probably fits with that. At least with the game board having no border (artwork goes right to the edge) it should be easy to expand this with the tile pack.

It's not at all what I was expecting, but I like the board. I was assuming there'd be big open areas and a grassy wild feel to give a drastically different style of play.

More variety can never be a bad thing.

 Slinky wrote:
Has anyone who paid via PayPal actually been charged yet?

My "pre-approved" plan has just been "approved" for a week.

same here. It's not been as long for me as it has you, but it's still not gone through on my paypal

 Gorechild wrote:

 Slinky wrote:
Has anyone who paid via PayPal actually been charged yet?

My "pre-approved" plan has just been "approved" for a week.

same here. It's not been as long for me as it has you, but it's still not gone through on my paypal

What I understood is that you get charged when the crowdfunding has ended, which is in about 17 days.

As far as I know, that is the standard way it works on kickstarter (never actually backed anything on there myself), but on Lanzanos it says that funding should be taken as soon as the project reaches it's goal. Any pledges made after the goal is reached, until the closing date, should get paid immediately.


From one of their pervious updates:

When will payment be made?
As our project has already reached 100% of the funding needed to make it real (actually, we have already passed beyond 200%... again, thank you all!), payment will be immediate. This is different from the way other crowdfunding platforms, such as Kickstarter or Indiegogo, work and, as usual, it has both some pros and cons. You will find detailed information about this subject in section 6 of Lánzanos FAQs.

I think from what I've heard (haven't backed yet) for this project Lanzanos have decided not to collect paypal pledges until the end as backers can have multiple charges on record and it's cheaper and easier for them to put everything through in one go rather than as pledges are made.

Another nice character mini but that fine detail on the robes won't translate on a miniature and I wouldn't expect to still be there in the final piece better to get rid of it now than have a half defined mess on the mini