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You back each level separately so you could back the €110 level the furniture set and the tiles and count as 3 separate backers so I'd say there's a good overlap.
Update 36 indicates that backers have to complete their address and confirm their pledge on Gamezones online store you will get credit for your pledge total you can add more or opt to cancel entirely for a refund. Bit odd why bother with Lanzanos at all then? Oh right crowd funding is not a preorder
Beta rules will be out in September.
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I bought an extra 'furniture pack' and the bold teenagers for 70 Euro with half an hour left on the clock.
Thank you Pacific for the heads up on the timing window, I had all day to look over what I wanted. I was tempted to be in for another 110 Euros but thought better of it for my wallets health.
As for the furniture pack. I didnt see the point in buying one for 49 Euro, especially with any monster packs etc when the entire game costs 65 and has a lot of cool stuff. But depending on the quality of the rules the 65 Euro set will be my set for the game, and the 110 Euro set will be the one scavenged for parts.
I wonder how many bought this just for the minis, I am not yet sure I did, I like games like this, love Descent, but I found the original Heroquest dumb and simplistic.
You back each level separately so you could back the €110 level the furniture set and the tiles and count as 3 separate backers so I'd say there's a good overlap.
I currently count as two backers, backing once get your name on the box, and I dont care much for that, I wonderr if three backers means triple shipping fees
Update 36 indicates that backers have to complete their address and confirm their pledge on Gamezones online store you will get credit for your pledge total you can add more or opt to cancel entirely for a refund. Bit odd why bother with Lanzanos at all then? Oh right crowd funding is not a preorder
Page was hard to navigate to, thanks I would not have seen it.
The two week cancellation window is rather generous actually.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
OK maybe I am dumb but I have no idea where I am supposed to be confirming my address on Gamezones site.... Can someone help me out? Appreciated greatly, thanks!
Automatically Appended Next Post: NM I am an idiot, need to wait until monday lol. Sorry.
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Pacific wrote: That is an absolutely nuts amount of miniatures and little add-ons for the 110 Euro mark. I own quite a few Gamezone miniatures and was quite worried when I read some of their sculptors had left. But, the CAD images we have seen so far have done enough to convince me they could probably up to the mark as far as dungeon-crawl games go.
And there is so much carry-over with this kind of stuff for D&D players, Warhammer or whatever.
Think I've left it long enough to wait for some party-pooper to step in with a C&D and hoping it is safe now, time to jump in with both feet!
I read that GZ's in-house sculptor left a few years ago, and they haven't released new ones until this KS. That doesn't sound all that "established" to me and it doesn't help that the original sculptor, MKUnited (sp) hired for HQ25 left because they didn't receive satisfactory answers from GZ about IP issues. As for a C&D, anytime until your copy of the game hits customs is pretty much fair game for a C&D, and we don't know where one will come from. MYTH was hit with a C&D from EA for their logo, thankfully before they entered physical production. While all the armchair naysayers were saying that Hasbro or GW would send a C&D, it turned out a little-known Moon Dog Designs were the ones who sent it. GZ still hasn't produced a written statement from Hasbro that Hasbro won't take legal action.
How many miniatures are they offering for 110 Euros? The best offers I've seen were $100 for 150 boardgame-plastic miniatures. CMON's Wrath of Kings had somewhat higher quality plastic, at $200 for 200 miniatures. As much as I pledge for bulk miniatures purchases, after Torn Armor and several failed videogame KS articles, I'm becoming ambivalent about KS that *promise* a lot of stuff. Still, I'm not going to be unhappy if I can get these mini's from GZ at a good price, with or without a HQ logo on the package.
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Update #37 - basically they need a few more days to get the site ready
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February 17, 2014 at 22:50
Upon confirmation of support ...
It is taking longer than expected to prepare our website for the confirmation process of props which I spoke last Thursday so we will have to delay its implementation more. We want to make this process easier, convenient and reliable as possible so better do the experiments before giving us the go-ahead.
In any case, still, if it takes a few days to start picking your address, check your order and enter the name that will customize the game boxes also extend the closing date as necessary. You will have plenty of time.
Hm
So Im not too sure, but Im guessing that when the official site goes live soon, we need to og on to that and then perform some kind of "my name is Alex and I pledged £xxx for the following items and the name I want on my box is Alex"
Does that seem right?
If-so, I wonder why we havent recieved any emails via lanzanos to this effect, as I only found this info out by checking the updates on a whim.
I somehow thought that my name and address details along with what I pledged my money for would be provided to gamezone by Lanzanos.
Some mates of mine looked at this crowdfund and backed away, they didn't trust it. I so hope they are wrong having invested just short of 200 Euro.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Update: Translated (pretty sure they meant NOT compromised)
Feb. 21, 2014, 9:11 pm
Attacked, not exactly She forcesOur campaign to realize this project, a project that seeks nothing more than to celebrate the 25th anniversary of HeroQuest through a true to the best traditions of the game dungeon crawlers , has been a complete and unqualified success . We are working really hard to make a product that reflects our love and respect for this legacy, but there are people who think this bothers them .
Last week we announced that this Monday would begin the process of collecting and verifying the data of our patrons in the online store Gamezone Miniatures . And then we were attacked. At first only slowed the work of the person responsible for setting the system up, but finally got the server throw us both staying heroquestclassic.com as our own shop by a strong denial of service (DDoS) .
Mail is also affected and found that not all response messages that have been sending you have reached your destination. Importantly, any confidential information of our clients have been exposed in some time, so that beyond the horror that has led to the team, the biggest loss is regrettable that all this matter is time wasted.
Unfortunately it is not the first occurrence, and during the campaign even Lánzanos was attacked at the expense of all the other projects that also agreed with us on this platform of collective financing. This is a crime , a form of harassment to which We could not stay idly by and we have been referred to the Telematics Crimes Unit of the Civil Guard.
Attacks these days seeking to impede our work and pay attention that you become as thick as possible. It seeks to create distrust and put us all nervous. In addition, time-wasting those working in the administrative part of the project, but at least thankfully, none of this affects the creative team continues to develop HeroQuest Classic, so you will soon receive a happier update this with the latest developments thereon.
On the subject of the final process through which you can confirm exactly what your contribution is directed, modify the way you please and tell us your shipping address, we have another good news. In a few days we will contact you to facilitate you a personalized account on our website to identify you as a patron. Originally thought to do otherwise but in the end it would be more cumbersome for you, which is what we try to avoid.
Thank you all for your patience! We take our work seriously and we are really striving to make everything easy and normal.
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My Models: Ork Army: Waaagh 'Az-ard - Chibi Dungeon RPG Models! - My Workblog! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
RULE OF COOL: When converting models, there is only one rule: "The better your model looks, the less people will complain about it."
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MODELING FOR ADVANTAGE TEST: rigeld2: "Easy test - are you willing to play the model as a stock one? No? MFA."
I don't know how long this info has been available, but I've only just found it and I couldn't find it posted here. They've announced the classes of all the hero models you'll get with the 2nd and 3rd pledge levels:
There has been no contact yet about picking your stuff the last update was just about the denial of service attack. The GZ store is back up and running and once they've set up what they need to they'll be in contact about what you need to do next.
EDIT: Spoke to soon all their sites are down again looks like the same issue as before.
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I would like to find that person who was posting "these sculpts are going to be crap" repeatedly back in the news thread, because all of the sculptors had left Gamezone leaving them with a deranged baboon with a blunt sculpting tool wedged between its butt-cheeks as the only artist (or something), and force them to watch these CAD drawings spinning on repeat until they are forced to admit the error of their ways
Realise that CAD does not equal exact sculpt, but you must admit these and the other bits and pieces shown so far look pretty damn impressive.
Were you able to contact them and give them your address? Etc?
IIRC it was just part of the original set-up process. I've had a 'payment received' and 'congratulations' email but that's it so far (other than some survey things connected with something else on Lazaros)
Yeah I've had 2 of those please take our survey things from Lanzanos I just ignored them I usually don't fill them out anyway plus it's in Spanish so mmm ... slight problem.
Aeon, their sites have been being targeted by DDoS attacks on and off for weeks. Hopefully they'll be back up and running in the next day or so. At least I hope that's what it is.
Azazelx wrote: They certainly made some enemies with this campaign...
Like who though really, and of the kind of person who is likely to have the inclination to carry out a DDOS attack?
Teenagers with too much time on their hands, the sites will be back up in a day or two.
Honestly, my thought is some overzealous RuneQuest fans.
That's probably a fair assessment. Also, if you ever checked out the BGG threads, there were a few people who spent an inordinate amount of time "fretting" about HQ25. I would think there is a bit of overlap there.
How is the second error related to a DDOS attack? Tia for the explanation.
Because if I am a server admin and I sell shared hosting, and one customer is getting attacked and impacting the entire shared environment, I as a server hosting provider take that one website offline or take their DB offline until we can address the traffic issue and speak with the customer. It is the only way to prevent bleed over onto other customers.
Also could be they are in the middle of a move to new servers or being forced out of shared environments which often can take time re-configuring your blog software.
Basically if you can't block DDOS attacks with an IPS/IDS at the perimeter, then all you can really do is take the website down.
My Models: Ork Army: Waaagh 'Az-ard - Chibi Dungeon RPG Models! - My Workblog! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
RULE OF COOL: When converting models, there is only one rule: "The better your model looks, the less people will complain about it."
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MODELING FOR ADVANTAGE TEST: rigeld2: "Easy test - are you willing to play the model as a stock one? No? MFA."
Azazelx wrote: They certainly made some enemies with this campaign...
Like who though really, and of the kind of person who is likely to have the inclination to carry out a DDOS attack?
Teenagers with too much time on their hands, the sites will be back up in a day or two.
Honestly, my thought is some overzealous RuneQuest fans.
That's probably a fair assessment. Also, if you ever checked out the BGG threads, there were a few people who spent an inordinate amount of time "fretting" about HQ25. I would think there is a bit of overlap there.
I am an overzealous RuneQuest fan, hence the name. Also a backer of this project.
However HeroQuest was only floated as a game idea by Chaosium, it got a few lines in the back of the RQ2 rulebook as a pending release that was all. MB games independently made a game with the same name, amnd that was allowed to stay.
Frankly I dont back the current RuneQuest franchise holders on this, the time to protect their IP was 25 years ago.
However it doesnt help that Greg Stafford has gone off the deep end long ago.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
I didn't say that all RQ fans were overzealous in the DDoS way - that would be stupid. But yes, this being the internet, every game company and key individual involved in those companies has their diehard fanbois - so I imagine it's someone/people who are RQ Stafford Superfans.
Hell, Derek Smart has a little band of hardcore diehard fans and hangers-on.
