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I'll just be stocking up on popcorn so I can go on here and read the flood of posts saying "WTF, this can't out-cheese Eldar or Tau! Worst codex ever! GW hates Tyranids! Now I have to wait another twelve years for my army to be playable again!"

 Wilytank wrote:
I'll just be stocking up on popcorn so I can go on here and read the flood of posts saying "WTF, this can't out-cheese Eldar or Tau! Worst codex ever! GW hates Tyranids! Now I have to wait another twelve years for my army to be playable again!"

This is how every codex release starts. I remember the Tau, people were like this is crap...then look, Tau are king now.

This will be the initial feelings as always, then a few competitive builds will come to light.
I think the main point making Tyranids competitive will be the ability to take additional units from the FOC slots.

im not worried about the bugs. they run 2 things... lots of low T no save little guys, that have short range or no range, and a bunch of MC. said big'uns have a mixture of toys.

my tau just say "ok" - i have lots of stuff for taking down TMC (such as an ecpa hbc riptide) or crisis suits with burst cannons and gun drones with an airburster commander for the little guys. sprinkle in missile pods and plasma for taste.

If da big nidz come out it just gives me an excuse to field tankbustas. Them boyz is dead killy when it comes to squashing bugz, specially the fat ones!

 kronk wrote:
The new models are pretty. I'll grab the codex, but that's it.

Same here...and I already scratch built a tyranno/exocrine and 2 harpies right after then5th ed bug book landed.

I'm just impressed and slightly in shock at seeing a bundle that is significantly (by about 50%) cheaper than buying the individual packs. And gaunts got cheaper per model (from $2.42 USD to $2.20 USD), not much but still...

If gaunt hordes are viable that would be a really good deal, and really cool to see on the table.

 greyknight12 wrote:
I'm just impressed and slightly in shock at seeing a bundle that is significantly (by about 50%) cheaper than buying the individual packs. And gaunts got cheaper per model (from $2.42 USD to $2.20 USD), not much but still...

If gaunt hordes are viable that would be a really good deal, and really cool to see on the table.

Just like with Orkney boys...grants and gaunts will always be hard pressed to be bad.

The previous release had some great sculpts and new models. This one is silly. IMO only though, but the new mouth fat thing from outer space is uggly. And I don't mean alien ugly. I mean weird ugly. The flyer is meh but its ok. The prices are as always. Oh don't forget, GW makes the best toy soldiers In the world.. Geee

I for one will be getting the regular codex. I am not inclined to pay twice the cash for very little more in return.

My son's Tyranid army will be looking to pick up some of the new models. If for nothing else, because of the new shiney factor. Hopefully, the newer models address some of discrepancies from the 5th Ed. Codex. For example, the lack of AP 2 weapons.

SYKOJAK wrote:
My son's Tyranid army will be looking to pick up some of the new models. If for nothing else, because of the new shiney factor. Hopefully, the newer models address some of discrepancies from the 5th Ed. Codex. For example, the lack of AP 2 weapons.

Lack of AP2?

Bugs have AP2 coming out the ears.

And were there isn't AP2, there were ignores armor weapons, and where there weren't ignores armor, there's a bucket full of dice.

Bug's roblem has never been kill-ability, it's survivability. And a super up catalyst, more well rounded tervigons, and points reductions across the book...that's finally been balanced out.

And who really needs AP2 right now anyways? The best weapons in the game right now are AP4 to AP-

Haruspex is cool no doubt, and fantastic for the godzilla armies that will result, but unecessary. When building a new cool model for your son, I highly recommend the exocrine at this juncture, and as long as you don't run a tyrranofex, it's an easy stand in for that as well.

The fliers are interesting. But if the Harpy still has a 4+, that still makes him, and possibly the Crone, dead to any army with decent AA.

Don't get me wrong, I have been playing dual Harpies for a while now, but the 4+ needs to go away or the bug is going to have the same problems.

I'm super excited, but I don't think I can bring myself to buy a new army, especially not 'Nids. The price hikes are pretty brutal in Oz and I'm concerned that they will turn into a one-trick-pony.

Have to see how the new codex plays out, I suppose.

 Dannyevilguy wrote:


The overweight tyranid flyer clearly stays aloft by farting in short rapid bursts.

Edit: Must get Toxic Miasma for free.

Just started reading this thread and had a good laugh at this one. May I quote this in my sig if noone else has already?

Getting back on topic, I've always wanted to start a 'Nidz army and paint/ theme it like the Aliens (Hive Fleet Ripley?), and that new Swarm battlebox is really tempting me. The only thing that's stopping me is the fact that I'm already ankle deep in primed-but-not-painted Ork Boyz. Despite their many, many faults GW really knows how to push my "impulse buy" button, which is located right next to my prostate.

I'm probably going to jump on this bandwagon, and while I was thinking about a swarm army now I'm thinking of Nidzilla. What would your first impressions be of ( and I know the 'wait for the book' answer is the wisest, but I have ADHD and I wanna talk about it NOW!) the following purchases to start off with:

Codex
2x Hive Tyrant/ Swarmlord
1x Tyrannofex/ Tervigon
1x Haruspex/ Endocrine
1x Tyrant Guard box
2x Warrior.boxes (Troops choices)
1x Carnifex Brood

godswildcard wrote:
I'm probably going to jump on this bandwagon, and while I was thinking about a swarm army now I'm thinking of Nidzilla. What would your first impressions be of ( and I know the 'wait for the book' answer is the wisest, but I have ADHD and I wanna talk about it NOW!) the following purchases to start off with:

Codex
2x Hive Tyrant/ Swarmlord
1x Tyrannofex/ Tervigon
1x Haruspex/ Endocrine
1x Tyrant Guard box
2x Warrior.boxes (Troops choices)
1x Carnifex Brood

Start out?...you're going to immediately need to spring a bunch more to fill out the list. 60 gants almost immediately

Been playing Nids since 3rd when I first started the game. Tyranids are what got me into the game. I absolutely love my alien bugs of doom and I just wanted to get past the 5th edition codex as fast as possible.

With that said, I am apathetic at best about the new codex because I know that all of the CC utility is going to be worthless in 6th and the best bug builds are going to be shooty. I foresee the new Tyranid standard to be 3x Exocrine, if they rumors of their gun are true, Hive Crones, and as many Tervigons you can fit into the list. So...no changes. If they leaks are real then Warriors and Stealers are still shelved. Raveners are my favorite unit in the codex but I have little faith in GW to make them worthwhile because they are still going to be expensive t4 models with no armor save. Lictors may finally be able to arrive without immediately dieing but they will probably still be meh in melee anyway.

I just don't see GW doing such drastic changes that the codex sorely needs. I want to run a swarming army that surges across the board to crash into the enemy like a wave. 6th edition and the new kits do nothing to support this idea and if I wanted to play a shooting army then I have 5 other armies to play. I want a melee army but it is becoming even more apparent, I say this with the new nid kits and leaks in mind, that this is not a viable way to play an army.

Well Nids wont be a problem for any Tau player (its a pretty good match up for them anyway) if the R'Varna gets approved with its current rules. I would laugh so hard at how sad it would be for my opponent to loose that many little bugs because I Nova Charged. lol

Actually though, based off of the previous Nids, do you think that this will be the new *top dog* army and dethrone Eldar, Tau, or Chaos Daemons (whatever you think is the best) or is it going to be fair, but not AMAZING!!! What do you think?

 Commander_Farsight wrote:
Well Nids wont be a problem for any Tau player (its a pretty good match up for them anyway) if the R'Varna gets approved with its current rules. I would laugh so hard at how sad it would be for my opponent to loose that many little bugs because I Nova Charged. lol

Actually though, based off of the previous Nids, do you think that this will be the new *top dog* army and dethrone Eldar, Tau, or Chaos Daemons (whatever you think is the best) or is it going to be fair, but not AMAZING!!! What do you think?

Based off the codex leaks we have so far....no.

In fact, its looking pretty....grim. Hopefully, there are some undiscovered magical secrets in the book...

Actually, I take that back, it will be slightly better against tau - a lot of the stuff does well against low I armies....(tau and crons).

But overall....

Well, I can in no way speak for this being the truth, but one thing I read was that Lictors and Genestealers will have some fancy new rule that makes it so the turn they come onto the board they can only be hit on a 6 (snap shots to be exact).

As a Tau player this rather worries me. The days of dreading my friend's outflanking genestealer horde might have returned to me, at least in part.

 ductvader wrote:

godswildcard wrote:
I'm probably going to jump on this bandwagon, and while I was thinking about a swarm army now I'm thinking of Nidzilla. What would your first impressions be of ( and I know the 'wait for the book' answer is the wisest, but I have ADHD and I wanna talk about it NOW!) the following purchases to start off with:

Codex
2x Hive Tyrant/ Swarmlord
1x Tyrannofex/ Tervigon
1x Haruspex/ Endocrine
1x Tyrant Guard box
2x Warrior.boxes (Troops choices)
1x Carnifex Brood

Start out?...you're going to immediately need to spring a bunch more to fill out the list. 60 gants almost immediately

So Nidzilla is dependent on Gants? I was hoping to avoid a lot,of the little buggers. What should the shopping list more closely resemble?

Personally, I would hate to give you the wrong list for a codex I have yet to see.

To start you can't go wrong with

1 Tyrant
3 Tyrant Guard/Hive Guard
Exocrine
2 Carnifexes
Tervigon
50+ termagants (30, to make the tervigon a troop and at least 20 more for spawning, I'd want more than 20 personally...)

With the increase on termagant tax for tervigons, I think 60 gants per tervigon is pretty much on the money.

 DarthSpader wrote:
im not worried about the bugs. they run 2 things... lots of low T no save little guys, that have short range or no range, and a bunch of MC. said big'uns have a mixture of toys.

my tau just say "ok" - i have lots of stuff for taking down TMC (such as an ecpa hbc riptide) or crisis suits with burst cannons and gun drones with an airburster commander for the little guys. sprinkle in missile pods and plasma for taste.

Thank you for this priceless contribution into this discussion about Tyranids.

Well guys, I'll be plain here. We can sit all night here and talk about the new Codex and wether it's good or not... OR we could wait that it actually gets released.

Anyone know who wrote 6th ed nids?

Psy-Titan wrote:
Anyone know who wrote 6th ed nids?

GW Design Team.

They got tired of people blaming Ward (or Cruddace if you are a nid player)

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Psy-Titan wrote:
Anyone know who wrote 6th ed nids?

GW Design Team.

They got tired of people blaming Ward (or Cruddace if you are a nid player)

Or people praising Kelly for absolutely no reason at all.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Psy-Titan wrote:
Anyone know who wrote 6th ed nids?

GW Design Team.

They got tired of people blaming Ward (or Cruddace if you are a nid player)

Or people praising Kelly for absolutely no reason at all.

Yeah, he didn't actually write the books.
I'm not sure how the writing process works, but I think there's a team involved. Though having 1 guy in charge of it all may account for many of the..."quirks" that pop up now and again.

A guy had the codex today at the store , we all read the fluff parts and had a good laugh . It is almost as, if nids were the new Avatars. The local lore guru said that all of this is , because when tyranids win no one gets a word about it , there are only stories about them being beaten back .

I don't envy all those people that are going to have to play with 200+guants , turns will take hours. They are going to be worse then zombies , because zombis don't care about ranges other then 2" from each other . Nids will check the overlaps of synaps .


Also a rules question , is a model the closest model to itself when the word other isn't used? Because if yes , then those tyranids are going to be killing each other on a roll of 1 on IB.

So a guy had a codex at the store, and you didn't read the WHOLE thing?!

Yeah, he read the fluff but not the rules? Sounds like bs Barry.

Jamo wrote:
Yeah, he read the fluff but not the rules? Sounds like bs Barry.

I agree! Like in what world would you get a chance to look at a Codex that hasn't come out yet to the public, and you want to read the fluff!