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 jifel wrote:
At a GT today, and ive yalked with some other Nid players between rounds... The list currently doing the rounds is:

Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant

Crone
Crone
Crone
Crone
Harpy (Venom Cannon)
Harpy (Venom Cannon)

10 gargoyles
10 gargoyles
10 gargoyles

10 gants
10 gants

This is so good I want to cry, and fully possible with the Skyblight Swarm! NINE FMCS!!!!

I daresay that with the new dataslate II, we've jumped up a notch or 2 on the power level. As a matter of fact, some armies may consider us OP now!

BTW, I wouldn't overdo it with the crones. They are good, but they're not that good to the point that I would run 4 of them! Personally, I'd drop 2 to add in 1 mawloc and a bastion+venom+synapse support. Otherwise, the list is way too unbalanced. I'm finding that good support units help the army more than just pure offense (with the exception of the flyrant, who is both a support unit and an offensive one as well).

omerakk wrote:

 jifel wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
And respawning scoring jump infantry.

That can't be contested. Woo!

They can, just not by scoring units.

They can only be contested by units with the special rule Objective Secured.

That's not actually what it says, it says "A unit with this special rule controls Objective Markers even if an enemy scoring unit is within range of the Objective Marker, unless the enemy unit also has this special rule." Only scoring units are required to have "Objective Secured" to contest.

 PrinceRaven wrote:
That's not actually what it says, it says "A unit with this special rule controls Objective Markers even if an enemy scoring unit is within range of the Objective Marker, unless the enemy unit also has this special rule." Only scoring units are required to have "Objective Secured" to contest.

So, you're inferring that a non-scoring unit can control or contest the objective marker, because the Gargoyles have a special rule?

I'm saying that non-scoring denial units may still contest the objective as the "Objective Secured" special rule only stops scoring units from contesting.

Hmmm. While that isn't necessarily logical, I shall eat my head carapace and say you're right.

I wish I wasn't, uncontestable scoring Gargoyles would have been awesome.

 PrinceRaven wrote:
I wish I wasn't, uncontestable scoring Gargoyles would have been awesome.

Well... the formation is borderline OP as is. We fought a strong Tau list to a (lucky for them) draw last week with a flying circus; admittedly the Mawloc was great, we held our objective, contested theirs with a Mawloc, and held our third. I am pretty confident with Skyblight that we'd splatter them. Just need to find the ££ for another Harpie and 10 more Gargoyles, and it will be great to field those neglected old Warriors just in case we need to take The Relic. AS well as a powerful list, it should be great fun.

Quick question. Assuming you are playing a skyshield with three Flyrants and the four FA FMCS. How would you deploy it and the FMCs?

zzzzz my wallet's gonna cry.

 felixcat wrote:
Quick question. Assuming you are playing a skyshield with three Flyrants and the four FA FMCS. How would you deploy it and the FMCs?

I'd place it forward of the DZ nearest the biggest portion of objectives. If going first, I'd put crones forward and flyrants ranked behind. If going second I'd try to hide the flyrants and reserve the crones.

I was a fan of the first set of dataslates we got, but these new ones are beyond fantastic. I do like the lists with 9 FMC but I don't have the cash to buy that many and don't own a single gargoyle. I'm actually really stoked about the one with exocrine and biovores. Freeing up more slots in heavy support really works for the armies I like to field. I haven't built any lists out of it yet but I plan to today.

With these new formations I'm running out of points before I'm running out of FOC slots. Thats the cool part.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
With these new formations I'm running out of points before I'm running out of FOC slots. Thats the cool part.

This. We needed this.

If going first, I'd put crones forward and flyrants ranked behind.

So you would not out the Flyrants on top of the skyshield? And you would I assume have the Harpies flanking? Interesting.

There's a 2K Double-FOC tournament in my neck of the woods (not now, but in the summertime). I can create a truly evil Tyranid army with Double-FOC's and these formations.

Me....I'm a flyrant type of person and this is what I'm thinking.


Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant

4x10 Termagants

Bastion

Dakka Flyrant

Harpy
Harpy
Hive Crone

3x10 Gargoyles

1990

What I'm digging is Lictors in these flier lists. The reason being is yes, they start out up front infiltrated for the most part, but when you have five FMC's fly ahead of them turn one they get a blind eye turned to them. Plenty of time to intelligently maneuver them into position for the Mawlocs. Given that its about turn 3 when the time is best, starting 1 of them on the board to ensure they come in turn 3 worked great.

Also, yesterday I deep struck a gargoyle brood from this new formation to push even harder with the Lictors. When the brood tied up the marines in combat with blinding, I brought the Mawloc in pinpoint. Sacrificed the remaining brood but annihilated the SM squad, and the gargoyles had a 50% chance of just coming back on the board (They didnt though)

 jy2 wrote:
There's a 2K Double-FOC tournament in my neck of the woods (not now, but in the summertime). I can create a truly evil Tyranid army with Double-FOC's and these formations.

Me....I'm a flyrant type of person and this is what I'm thinking.


Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant

4x10 Termagants

Bastion

Dakka Flyrant

Harpy
Harpy
Hive Crone

3x10 Gargoyles

1990

Why include a Bastion with no source of Synapse inside it? Just curious.

I think my single FoC 2k list would look something like:

Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant

3x10 Termagants

Zoanthrope

Hive Crone

Mawloc
Mawloc

Bastion w/ Comms Relay

Dakka Flyrant

Harpy w/ HVC
Harpy
Hive Crone

3x10 Gargoyles

2000 on the nose

Enceladus wrote:

 jy2 wrote:

Spoiler:

There's a 2K Double-FOC tournament in my neck of the woods (not now, but in the summertime). I can create a truly evil Tyranid army with Double-FOC's and these formations.

Me....I'm a flyrant type of person and this is what I'm thinking.


Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant

4x10 Termagants

Bastion

Dakka Flyrant

Harpy
Harpy
Hive Crone

3x10 Gargoyles

1990

Why include a Bastion with no source of Synapse inside it? Just curious.

I think my single FoC 2k list would look something like:

Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant

3x10 Termagants

Zoanthrope

Hive Crone

Mawloc
Mawloc

Bastion w/ Comms Relay

Dakka Flyrant

Harpy w/ HVC
Harpy
Hive Crone

3x10 Gargoyles

2000 on the nose

The bastion is there for 3 tactical reasons:

1. Can put 1 unit of gants inside to disembark and grab and objective on the last turn.

2. LOS-blocker for my FMC's on deployment if they are forced to go 2nd.

3. LOS-blocker for when my FMC's fly off the table to come back in next turn.

Your single-FOC list is also very good. It would be what I would probably run if I was running single-FOC.

 jy2 wrote:

Enceladus wrote:

 jy2 wrote:

Spoiler:

There's a 2K Double-FOC tournament in my neck of the woods (not now, but in the summertime). I can create a truly evil Tyranid army with Double-FOC's and these formations.

Me....I'm a flyrant type of person and this is what I'm thinking.


Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant

4x10 Termagants

Bastion

Dakka Flyrant

Harpy
Harpy
Hive Crone

3x10 Gargoyles

1990

Why include a Bastion with no source of Synapse inside it? Just curious.

I think my single FoC 2k list would look something like:

Dakka Flyrant
Dakka Flyrant

3x10 Termagants

Zoanthrope

Hive Crone

Mawloc
Mawloc

Bastion w/ Comms Relay

Dakka Flyrant

Harpy w/ HVC
Harpy
Hive Crone

3x10 Gargoyles

2000 on the nose

The bastion is there for 3 tactical reasons:

1. Can put 1 unit of gants inside to disembark and grab and objective on the last turn.

2. LOS-blocker for my FMC's on deployment if they are forced to go 2nd.

3. LOS-blocker for when my FMC's fly off the table to come back in next turn.

Your single-FOC list is also very good. It would be what I would probably run if I was running single-FOC.

Seems fair enough, I appreciate the swift response!

 felixcat wrote:

If going first, I'd put crones forward and flyrants ranked behind.

So you would not out the Flyrants on top of the skyshield? And you would I assume have the Harpies flanking? Interesting.

I want that 4++ save turn 2. While swooping. On t1 I'm either going first or they're off the table.

What you think of this
1850 points:

Flyrant with 2x Devourers
Flyrant with 2x Devourers

10 Termagants Brood
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood with 1 Barbed Stranger

Venomthrope

Hive Crone

Mawloc

Bastion

Skyblight Swarm Formation

Flyrant with 2x Devourers
Hive Crone
Harpy
Harpy
10 Gargoyles Brood
10 Gargoyles Brood
10 Gargoyles Brood

 Tyran wrote:
What you think of this
1850 points:

Flyrant with 2x Devourers
Flyrant with 2x Devourers

10 Termagants Brood
3 Tyranid Warriors Brood with 1 Barbed Stranger

Venomthrope

Hive Crone

Mawloc

Bastion

Skyblight Swarm Formation

Flyrant with 2x Devourers
Hive Crone
Harpy
Harpy
10 Gargoyles Brood
10 Gargoyles Brood
10 Gargoyles Brood

I like it!

Any army with triple flyrants and 6+ FMC's is a win in my books!

Damn....bugs are going to be a force to be reckoned with. I'm actually pretty darn excited about them.


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BTW, got another game in...against White Scars Space Marines! This is a rematch, only this time, my opponent brought more bikers and more marines! White Scars are the real deal and they are only the 2nd army ever to have beaten my Necrons (at the LVO) since 6th Ed. came out.

I had a game with my Tyranids against John "Zeztuku's" LVO White Scars!








Look for the report, coming out soon!

Those bikes with lights!!! they look awesome!!!

Yeah, they do, don't they? They actually look like headlights.

John is in the process of converting his entire biker army with the LED's.

Putting horde back to horde:

HQ
Tyranid Prime

Troops
Tervigon
3x 30 Termagants
2x Tyranid Warrior brood with Barbed strangler

Dataslate Endless Swarm
3x 30 Hormagaunts
3x 30 Termagants
Tyranid warrior brood with Barbed strangler

Could it win? Maybe, once.. Would I want to paint them? Definitely not.. Would it be fun? Hell yeah..

Can more than one dataslate be in use at once?

Naw wrote:
Putting horde back to horde:

HQ
Tyranid Prime

Troops
Tervigon
3x 30 Termagants
2x Tyranid Warrior brood with Barbed strangler

Dataslate Endless Swarm
3x 30 Hormagaunts
3x 30 Termagants
Tyranid warrior brood with Barbed strangler

Could it win? Maybe, once.. Would I want to paint them? Definitely not.. Would it be fun? Hell yeah..

Can more than one dataslate be in use at once?

yes as long as you have the points and can fill your primary FOC

I just came up with this as a mock up of what formations I could field with the models I currently have...

Primary Detachmant

Flyrant 2 x Tl Devourers

10 x Termagants
10 x Termagants

20 x Gargoyles
Hive Crone

Mawloc

Incubator Node

1 x Tervigon
3 x 10 Termagants

Synaptic Swarm

Tyranid Prime
3 x 3 Warriors

Living Artillery Node
Exocrine
3x Biovores
4 x Warriors/ 1 with bio cannon.

Depending on load outs of units etc this come in at just under 2k!

It has a basic 9 scoring units, 11 in the scouring and 12 in Big guns, with the potential to spawn more.

I think I'll try it at some point in the near future.

I'm looking at every formation EXCEPT the Skyblight; I just think it will do nothing but piss everyone in my gaming group off lol

Might try combining the Living Artillery with the Endless swarm; could be effective but not as over-the-top.

Anyone have any suggestions on what kind of list you would put a Haurspex in with the new formations? I'd really like to build and use that model!

The comments of "how dare tyranids field powerful units combinations" makes me sad. It's as if we're conditioned to being a sub-standard army.