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2014/01/17 10:50:43
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
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chris56ryan wrote:So no upgrades would stop you increasing squad size too you know as extra guys are an upgrade.
Wouldn't be so sure on that particular one - there's precedent for adding additional models not being an 'upgrade' with Typhus and his plague zombies. I imagine there'll be more specifics on what counts as an upgrade if this makes it off the ground (or it'll vary per store).
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2014/01/19 04:16:10
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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So for previous GW campaigns could FLGS participate?
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2014/01/20 10:49:58
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Dark Vengeance Campaign with small set of troops. and only DA VS Chaos goons? no IG joining DA to pacify Kaiserslautern nor Orks to do more dakka and git sum lootz?
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/408342.page |
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2014/01/20 16:43:08
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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When I played my space sharks I used to get Tyberos, 5 lightning claw termies, and a land raider redeemer for I think just under 600, but I could be wrong. And that's an hq and a troop if you take the raider as dedicated transport. Certainly not unbeatable, but it's a tough tank with a pretty good combat unit in it.
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2014/01/21 03:30:50
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Saw a paper on this at my local store. I would like to join in...but not sure if i have the time. Looks fun.
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"… I hate donkey caves who design their armies with the sole purpose of crushing their opponent as fast as possible & with the least amount of actual effort required. It's a game of toy soldiers, yet for some people, it seems to be how they measure the true size of their penis." Experiment 626
 angelofvengeance wrote: Sounds silly but I've found my models perform better in games when they've had a lick of paint on them!
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2014/01/21 03:38:20
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Should the Campaign not be renamed to "Retreat from Kaiserslautern IV"? 
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2014/01/21 04:22:37
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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 GuardRalph wrote:Saw a paper on this at my local store. I would like to join in...but not sure if i have the time. Looks fun.
I was really about to unload a truckload of salt on this because of the name, but could not find a solid clue that the picture was photoshoped.
OOOoooOOOH!!!
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2014/01/21 16:27:13
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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 Lone Cat wrote:Dark Vengeance Campaign with small set of troops. and only DA VS Chaos goons? no IG joining DA to pacify Kaiserslautern nor Orks to do more dakka and git sum lootz?
Sounds like there's rules for other armies to participate; they've just suggested using the Dark Vengeance set to make things easier for beginners.
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2014/01/27 19:52:35
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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A shop who participate in the beta test has for some reasons put onlines the various scenarios that will be played during the campaign in PDf formats.
http://www.pandemonium-online.com/
Missions sizes varies from 1 Ten man Tac squad Vs 1 5 man raptors squad where the Raptors must take has objectives lost pages of the Grimoire of True Names, and once they receive thos they communicate them to a Sorceror and there will be additional random effects applied to Full 1500pts armies.
Most of the winning conditions and objectives are interesting gameplay wise i must say, specially like the mission where 5 DW termis are opposed to 4 x 5 CUltists, but for each cultists squad destroyed a new one enters play from reserves, ENDLESS stream of Cultists!
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2014/01/27 20:46:13
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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Oh dear. The Deatwing Knights squad name made me laugh. Squad Eberle.... Aside of all the german names for the Planet and the cities ok. But a squadname that sounds like the german cutesy version for Boar... squad Boarly. I wonder if GW will change some names for a german release.
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2014/01/27 20:49:55
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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It's interesting that Adeptus Sororitas need not apply (there are no sister equivalencies given by the rules).
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2014/01/27 21:55:33
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Calculating Commissar
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 Slayer le boucher wrote:A shop who participate in the beta test has for some reasons put onlines the various scenarios that will be played during the campaign in PDf formats.
http://www.pandemonium-online.com/
Missions sizes varies from 1 Ten man Tac squad Vs 1 5 man raptors squad where the Raptors must take has objectives lost pages of the Grimoire of True Names, and once they receive thos they communicate them to a Sorceror and there will be additional random effects applied to Full 1500pts armies.
Most of the winning conditions and objectives are interesting gameplay wise i must say, specially like the mission where 5 DW termis are opposed to 4 x 5 CUltists, but for each cultists squad destroyed a new one enters play from reserves, ENDLESS stream of Cultists!
Guys, what are IG shock troops...? 
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2014/01/27 22:03:55
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Plastictrees
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Generic Cadians are techinically Cadian Shock Troops.
Presumably because they are constantly surprised by how their armor does nothing.
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2014/01/27 22:07:07
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Calculating Commissar
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 plastictrees wrote:
Generic Cadians are techinically Cadian Shock Troops.
Presumably because they are constantly surprised by how their armor does nothing.
Yah, but there is no such unit as "Imperial Guard Shock Troops". It uses Shock Troops as if it were a name for a unit, where no such unit exists.
Closest thing we have are veterans, but those are not necessarily cadians.
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2014/01/27 22:08:16
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Plastictrees
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Maybe the next IG book will be Codex: Cadia
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2014/01/27 22:41:34
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Slayer le boucher wrote:A shop who participate in the beta test has for some reasons put onlines the various scenarios that will be played during the campaign in PDf formats.
http://www.pandemonium-online.com/
Missions sizes varies from 1 Ten man Tac squad Vs 1 5 man raptors squad where the Raptors must take has objectives lost pages of the Grimoire of True Names, and once they receive thos they communicate them to a Sorceror and there will be additional random effects applied to Full 1500pts armies.
Most of the winning conditions and objectives are interesting gameplay wise i must say, specially like the mission where 5 DW termis are opposed to 4 x 5 CUltists, but for each cultists squad destroyed a new one enters play from reserves, ENDLESS stream of Cultists!
Wow, neat. Thanks!
Heh, I find it cute how at first, only the Emperor shows blessing to those dedicated that paint and build their armies fully, but then in the latter PDFs it's like someone remembered that the chaos gods exist too and adds the Ruinous Powers to that paragraph as also giving their blessing.
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2014/01/27 22:59:14
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Hallowed Canoness
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Leo_the_Rat wrote:It's interesting that Adeptus Sororitas need not apply (there are no sister equivalencies given by the rules).
Yeah. But then again, only one side has equivalent forces listed in each scenario, and those looks more like very generic guidelines than rules.
And since it is designed so that each players plays each side, you do not want it to be imbalanced, else it will be automatic draw !
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2014/01/27 23:04:35
Subject: Re:GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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TiamatRoar wrote:Heh, I find it cute how at first, only the Emperor shows blessing to those dedicated that paint and build their armies fully
Don't forget the buying your army requirement. After all, it's the most important part of the hobby.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2014/01/28 04:58:50
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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2014/01/28 05:24:23
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Calculating Commissar
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This activity is designed to increase the sales of the following products:...
Yah, no, feth that noise.
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2014/01/28 08:08:09
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Calculating Commissar
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Bit confused with Mission 8 and it's alternative suggestions to the Deathwing squad... a squad of Termagants or a squad of Shock Troops with Carapace for Guard?
Given that they equip the Shock Troops with carapace makes me wonder if they are referring to Vets or Storm Troopers instead?
Interesting that there are no equivalencies to the Land Speeder Vengeance or Daemon Prince for the last battle too.
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2014/01/28 08:22:09
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Happygrunt wrote:
This activity is designed to increase the sales of the following products:...
Yah, no, feth that noise.
Anything a store does is a "sales enhancing activity" when it comes down to it. Is that really such a problem or do you only play at home?
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2014/01/28 08:29:58
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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They did the same back then with Battle for Macragge, releasing scenario missions with suggestions on what to buy next to help escalate the fighting.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2014/01/28 09:48:45
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Kelne
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I just glanced at the missions, but they are very poor.
How is a squad of 5 dudes, even Terminators, supposed to survive 10 turns? You just need to roll 5 x 1. Seen it happen a lot of times.
Not to mention the fact that you only get the reroll if you BOUGHT, PAINTED and BASED the army specifically DURING the event.
Also, how are Kabalite Warriors a substitute for Chaos Raptors? That one made me laugh. It's like the person designing this never heard of the race. Sorry, that get's even better, Kabalite Warriors are a suggested substitute for TERMINATORS in mission 8a.
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2014/01/28 10:13:06
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Hallowed Canoness
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 endtransmission wrote:Bit confused with Mission 8 and it's alternative suggestions to the Deathwing squad... a squad of Termagants or a squad of Shock Troops with Carapace for Guard?
Given that they equip the Shock Troops with carapace makes me wonder if they are referring to Vets or Storm Troopers instead?
Interesting that there are no equivalencies to the Land Speeder Vengeance or Daemon Prince for the last battle too.
 Alkasyn wrote:Also, how are Kabalite Warriors a substitute for Chaos Raptors? That one made me laugh. It's like the person designing this never heard of the race. Sorry, that get's even better, Kabalite Warriors are a suggested substitute for TERMINATORS in mission 8a.
Those are suggestions. Just ignore them and, you know, talk about it with the staff at your store and/or your opponent. Maybe use Grotesques instead. Those looks like a good tough unit that could replace terminators. And do not forget you will get to swap sides with your adversary afterward, so tweak the forces to get a balanced game rather than looking at point values.
Alkasyn wrote:How is a squad of 5 dudes, even Terminators, supposed to survive 10 turns? You just need to roll 5 x 1. Seen it happen a lot of times.
You just need to survive 5 turns to win. 10 is for “Gold Victory”, of course it's going to be very difficult/improbable.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2014/01/28 10:58:11
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Douglas Bader
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endtransmission wrote:Given that they equip the Shock Troops with carapace makes me wonder if they are referring to Vets or Storm Troopers instead?
Nah, "shock troops" is the name on the box, so all they care about is that you buy a box of shock troops. What rules you use when you put them on the table is just an irrelevant detail that GW doesn't care about.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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2014/01/28 12:26:28
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Kelne
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: endtransmission wrote:Bit confused with Mission 8 and it's alternative suggestions to the Deathwing squad... a squad of Termagants or a squad of Shock Troops with Carapace for Guard?
Given that they equip the Shock Troops with carapace makes me wonder if they are referring to Vets or Storm Troopers instead?
Interesting that there are no equivalencies to the Land Speeder Vengeance or Daemon Prince for the last battle too.
Alkasyn wrote:Also, how are Kabalite Warriors a substitute for Chaos Raptors? That one made me laugh. It's like the person designing this never heard of the race. Sorry, that get's even better, Kabalite Warriors are a suggested substitute for TERMINATORS in mission 8a.
Those are suggestions. Just ignore them and, you know, talk about it with the staff at your store and/or your opponent. Maybe use Grotesques instead. Those looks like a good tough unit that could replace terminators. And do not forget you will get to swap sides with your adversary afterward, so tweak the forces to get a balanced game rather than looking at point values.
Alkasyn wrote:How is a squad of 5 dudes, even Terminators, supposed to survive 10 turns? You just need to roll 5 x 1. Seen it happen a lot of times.
You just need to survive 5 turns to win. 10 is for “Gold Victory”, of course it's going to be very difficult/improbable.
Why does the company bother with pointless suggestions, then?
Also, even 5 turns will be very hard for the terminators, seeing as there's 4x 5 Cultists shooting at them ?
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2014/01/28 13:41:30
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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So it's only DV stuff? In that case my store probably won't run it. They got some new blood in when they started carrying 40k earlier this year and by now all the noobs are fairly good regulars.
EDIT: it seems like a wasted opportunity limiting it only to DV stuff. They could've done another Armageddon or big campaign to rope a bunch of people in if they let all armies play (albeit in small forces)
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2014/01/28 13:50:52
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Nah. It's obviously geared towards DV, but in the recap sheet it mentions that you can use "an equivalent force from another army".
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2014/01/28 14:03:16
Subject: GW Summer Campaign: Conquest of Kaiserslautern IV
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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 d-usa wrote: Happygrunt wrote:
This activity is designed to increase the sales of the following products:...
Yah, no, feth that noise.
Anything a store does is a "sales enhancing activity" when it comes down to it. Is that really such a problem or do you only play at home?
Yeah exactly. I don't see it as a negative or unreasonable unless they're making you buy clippers to participate.
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