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I say shut it to the one demanding Frost Weapons to be changed. They are part of our fluff and they are simply fun and cool. When you take away unique stuff you just take away flavor.

Yes they should be changed in pricing to help in the little "PF or Frost Axe?" thing. Personally I love them, an Axe over a Power Fist but hey I'll just as easily go with a Power Fist because it's cool.

2 psychic tables would be awesome! One for the surface which manifests as fissures, earthquakes or even just rock spikes and the like etc. The other being the very storms itself with all that can come with it: Tornadoes with enough force to pick up a Space Marine and rip him apart. Lightening and harsh winds and hail etc.

Anti Air in the form of either Flakk Missiles, some tank of sorts(Maybe the Hunter/Stalker should be kept to the Ice Cream Marines. it is their thing along with Grav weapons and Centurions). But something unique for us to help us bring those dang fliers down.

More Dreads would be cool. Heck a super Dread kit as mentioned above where you can make Bjorn, an Iron Clad, a Venerable and a normal one along with another new unit/variety of dread.

Bran having a model would, as already said many times, would be epic! Same for The Redmaw. Along side him getting a model it'd just be a great way to pitch another Battleforce/Formation/Way for GW to make more money if they released a Wolfen pack which includes both one ofr terminator with it and a normal marine/anyone in th codex who can take it.

The shield thing for Bloodclaws sounds cool and would give them more chance to see more light. Grey Hunters are perfect as they are, though putting them in line with other codexs which amounts to point arrangement(reduction) would be nice and would allow us to take more options and units which translates to more money used. Bloodclaws competing against Grey Hunters would be amazing if both are equal/Unique to what they can bring to the battle field.

Warlord Traits that don't suck.

As for the brief mention of Nids' power level...While yes the Nids aren't like the Tau or Eldar in terms of uber stupid stinky lazy cheese(Which is a good thing if you ask me) they can still bring the pain and have a guy who has played I believe 3 or so matches and has won em all with his Nids. And I know people are winning with them. They take more thinking and strategy. Marines are versatile and take the same as well just like Dark Angels. So needing strategy and know how is greater then just static, boring spam/cheese like Taudar.

I agree that Bloodclaws(of all flavors) and TWC need to be enhanced to shut out all the hate on them. Making them/using them to help bring the assault combat to all this shooting nonsense would be the shift in the right direction.

I believe it'll be Space Wolves and Blood Angels who bring the assault back to this edition. Well them and the Orks hopefully. But hey...never know.

So I posted these thoughts awhile back on the SW forums which always seem to have some crap about a new codex going on,

I see Canis going down in points, losing his hq slot, and becoming an upgrade character for TWC packs. This makes room for iron priests in the hq slot.

Venerable Dreads in HQ spot with Beasts of Underfang from Battle of the Fang as wargear purchase.

BOOM, that just happened!

Solved the Iron Priest as a HQ problem:

Give Arjac two profiles. His existing as a Wolf Guard character in the Elite FOC stays the same. He then has a HQ FOC WGBL type profile in runic armor, BoR, servo harness/arm, and some Iron Priestly type rules instead of his Grimnar's champion type rules.

This brings me to another upgrade character, Lukas;

Lukas should be able to be an upgrade character to any Claw type unit (Blood, Swift, Sky). If he does so, the unit cannot be joined by any IC or Wolf Guard as his presence makes them just too rebellious. In addition the following happens for each unit.

Have you seen my keys?

If Lukas joins a unit of Blood Claws they can take any version of Land Raider as a designated transport however all Wolf Guard units in the army lose their 0-1 option for a Land Raider due to the midnight acquisition by the Blood Claws and Lukas.

Hunger for Glory!

If Lukas joins a unit of Sky Claws that unit can assault any flyer type regardless of the speed the flyer is traveling. A modified dangerous test is required to assault with models failing on a roll of 1 or 2 and a normal dangerous terrain roll for each subsequent round of combat as they try to avoid being sucked into intakes, batted aside by wings, or lose their grip on the speeding flyer.

First to fight!

If Lukas joins a unit of Swift Claws they are allowed to assault after turboboosting due to trying to be the first into combat regardless of possible impact. A modified dangerous terrain roll is required with models failing on a 1 or 2 and Hammer of Wrath attacks are forfeited as the unit is too intent on racing eachother to combat to aim their bikes into the enemy mass.

Fix Berserk charge; right now if your DP drifts to within 6" of the enemy you cannot charge OR fire, which seems insane.

 Eisensapper wrote:
Fix Berserk charge; right now if your DP drifts to within 6" of the enemy you cannot charge OR fire, which seems insane.

Why are you putting Blood Claws in a Drop Pod?

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Eisensapper wrote:
Fix Berserk charge; right now if your DP drifts to within 6" of the enemy you cannot charge OR fire, which seems insane.

Why are you putting Blood Claws in a Drop Pod?

um.... so they get in combat quicker, maybe?

 karlosovic wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Eisensapper wrote:
Fix Berserk charge; right now if your DP drifts to within 6" of the enemy you cannot charge OR fire, which seems insane.

Why are you putting Blood Claws in a Drop Pod?

um.... so they get in combat quicker, maybe?

Grey Hunters do that so much better.

A new boxed set for naking space wolves wolf guard in power armour, which would incluse the combi weapons... A lot like the stern guard and van guard boxed sets for the codex marines... Save us having to buy/ cobble together the daned things and also give us a real stand out looking elites unit.

Resculpts of Ragnar, PA Njal and the iron Priest, maybe also Ulrik as they are very dated smodels now. So is Logan, but atleast he has a dynamic pose

I personally would aslo love to see dedicated Skyclaw units, so we can make our assault troops atleast look like they are running at their enemy without having to buy extra kits (assault marines... I am looking at you!!!)

 dantay_xv wrote:
A new boxed set for naking space wolves wolf guard in power armour, which would incluse the combi weapons... A lot [see forum posting rules] the stern guard and van guard boxed sets for the codex marines... Save us having to buy/ cobble together the daned things and also give us a real stand out looking elites unit.

Resculpts of Ragnar, PA Njal and the iron Priest, maybe also Ulrik as they are very dated smodels now. So is Logan, but atleast he has a dynamic pose

I personally would aslo love to see dedicated Skyclaw units, so we can make our assault troops atleast look like they are running at their enemy without having to buy extra kits (assault marines... I am looking at you!!!)

I would love this too.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 karlosovic wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Eisensapper wrote:
Fix Berserk charge; right now if your DP drifts to within 6" of the enemy you cannot charge OR fire, which seems insane.

Why are you putting Blood Claws in a Drop Pod?

um.... so they get in combat quicker, maybe?

Grey Hunters do that so much better.

Grey Hunters have the same movement speed and transport options as Blood Claws, so they're actually the same at getting into combat.

But mostly, I'm just sick of being told to cut cookies, and from what's been said in this thread, I'm not the only one!
It's really boring and unhelpful how every time someone mentions a unit selection other than Grey Hunter, Long Fang missile launchers or Rune Priests - some imaginative stooge answers "You're using the wrong unit"

You've also missed the entire point of this thread, which is to list things you'd like to see changed in the next codex. Eisensapper was doing just that, by suggesting a change to make Blood Claws more effective and so *fix* the issue of

 Anpu42 wrote:
Grey Hunters do that so much better.

 dantay_xv wrote:
A new boxed set for naking space wolves wolf guard in power armour, which would incluse the combi weapons... A lot like the stern guard and van guard boxed sets for the codex marines... Save us having to buy/ cobble together the daned things and also give us a real stand out looking elites unit.

Resculpts of Ragnar, PA Njal and the iron Priest, maybe also Ulrik as they are very dated smodels now. So is Logan, but atleast he has a dynamic pose

I personally would aslo love to see dedicated Skyclaw units, so we can make our assault troops atleast look like they are running at their enemy without having to buy extra kits (assault marines... I am looking at you!!!)

Good post- I couldn't agree more.

DOOMONYOU wrote:


No Flyer, this is something unique to the chapter, if they were meant to have them hey would have been FAQ'd already.

I question this logic. GW hasn't FAQed fliers into any army since 6th edition came out. yes space marines where given their fliers early and that to my mind is a good arguement that Space wolves won't get storm talons and storm ravens, but it's not a good arguement that Space Wolves won't get any fliers.

BrianDavion wrote:

DOOMONYOU wrote:


No Flyer, this is something unique to the chapter, if they were meant to have them hey would have been FAQ'd already.

I question this logic. GW hasn't FAQed fliers into any army since 6th edition came out. yes space marines where given their fliers early and that to my mind is a good arguement that Space wolves won't get storm talons and storm ravens, but it's not a good arguement that Space Wolves won't get any fliers.

Templars got the Stormraven and Stormtalon. Sure, it was from DFtS, but still.

 karlosovic wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 karlosovic wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Eisensapper wrote:
Fix Berserk charge; right now if your DP drifts to within 6" of the enemy you cannot charge OR fire, which seems insane.

Why are you putting Blood Claws in a Drop Pod?

um.... so they get in combat quicker, maybe?

Grey Hunters do that so much better.

Grey Hunters have the same movement speed and transport options as Blood Claws, so they're actually the same at getting into combat.

But mostly, I'm just sick of being told to cut cookies, and from what's been said in this thread, I'm not the only one!
It's really boring and unhelpful how every time someone mentions a unit selection other than Grey Hunter, Long Fang missile launchers or Rune Priests - some imaginative stooge answers "You're using the wrong unit"

You've also missed the entire point of this thread, which is to list things you'd like to see changed in the next codex. Eisensapper was doing just that, by suggesting a change to make Blood Claws more effective and so *fix* the issue of

 Anpu42 wrote:
Grey Hunters do that so much better.

I love to use my Blood Claws, The only issue I have [and this is not an complaint, more of an obersevation] is they are not Cheep. I genrealt field them at 15 models with a Wolf Priest witch limits my [non-forge world] transport to a LRC. This is not to say that I have not done it . The problem come is once I include a second Blood Claw Pack I have little points for much else.
Fixes:
>Make them a little Cheeper
>Give them Combat Sheilds
> of Lukas, make him a HQ Slot or let him be an upgrade for Skyclaws or Swiftclaws
What I don't want to change:
>Bearzerk Charge.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

DOOMONYOU wrote:


No Flyer, this is something unique to the chapter, if they were meant to have them hey would have been FAQ'd already.

I question this logic. GW hasn't FAQed fliers into any army since 6th edition came out. yes space marines where given their fliers early and that to my mind is a good arguement that Space wolves won't get storm talons and storm ravens, but it's not a good arguement that Space Wolves won't get any fliers.

Templars got the Stormraven and Stormtalon. Sure, it was from DFtS, but still.

But that wasn't a FAQ, instead an update of Flyers to be published before 6th to give them all official Flyer Rules. Chaos Marines, Dark Angels, Eldar and Tau still had to have a codex update to get their Flyers. So to fit the pattern the Wolves will wait for a codex update to have a flyer in addition to the Storm Eagle, Fire Raptor and Thunderhawks they currently can field.

For me, a little cut back on the wolfyness would be good, I love my space puppies, but enough is enough.Then :

General points reduction on a level with the C:SM

Points drop on saga's

Get access to Flakk or the Hunter / Stalker

Get access to a Flyer or even 2 ( not the Forge World stuff though ). They have Thunderhawks in the fluff and novels, so Ravens and Talons would be nice, or go the home-grown route like the DA.

I still think they will drop the nerf hammer on the TWC though, its just a feeling I get.

TWC don't need a nerfing. Compare them to the Necron Wraith which does about the same thing for less points and comes with its invulnerable save to start.

TWC need, if anything, a price cut, especially on their upgrades.

Less wolves, more vikings.

Wolfjets

Jefffar wrote:
TWC don't need a nerfing. Compare them to the Necron Wraith which does about the same thing for less points and comes with its invulnerable save to start.

TWC need, if anything, a price cut, especially on their upgrades.

Honestly wraiths might be a bit too good for their pricing.

Terminator armour to become available to longfangs

So in other words, cyclone missile launcher squads in terminator armour?
Why not make Long Fangs into Centurions?

 dantay_xv wrote:
So in other words, cyclone missile launcher squads in terminator armour?
Why not make Long Fangs into Centurions?

because a SW terminator could have a cyclon and storm shield at the same time , while a centurion has no inv build in.

I know, I was being daft.

While having Long Fangs in terminator would be cool, it would be a touch Over Powering wouldn't it? Especially if they get to carry heavy weapons, which is exactly what they are there to do.

Heavy weapon armed terminators are effectively centurions. If you want Terminators you take Wolf Guard If you want a squad of cyclone terminators, you take Logan and run an all terminator force. (Use your 1 per 5 to carry the special weapon and group them together)

I wouldn't mind seeing a Space Wolf kit that included some running legs for Blood Claws.

Also rules that make Blood Claws worth taking.

kronk wrote:Less wolves, more vikings.

Yes.

DOOMONYOU wrote:Terminator armour to become available to longfangs

No.

 dantay_xv wrote:
So in other words, cyclone missile launcher squads in terminator armour?
Why not make Long Fangs into Centurions?

At first I was unsure about Space Wolf Centrutions, but the more it is talked about the more I am starting to like the idea.
If we got Centrurions I would love to see the Gav-Cannon Relaced with a Plasma-Cannons(s)

of course if we got them I would not like to get the Stalker/Hunter or the Storm Raven just to keep us from becoming Space Marines.
A good Fighter would be nice for Anti-Air.

The same treatment the Tyranids got

Xyptc wrote:
The same treatment the Tyranids got

Have you been tatching the BatReps and other reports.
There are many that are wining and I have been watching one were they lost vs. TauDar only becouse of a sing roll.
It is looking to be a ballanced Codex, and that is all we are looking for, A nice ballance Codex.

 dantay_xv wrote:
I know, I was being daft.

While having Long Fangs in terminator would be cool, it would be a touch Over Powering wouldn't it? Especially if they get to carry heavy weapons, which is exactly what they are there to do.

Heavy weapon armed terminators are effectively centurions. If you want Terminators you take Wolf Guard If you want a squad of cyclone terminators, you take Logan and run an all terminator force. (Use your 1 per 5 to carry the special weapon and group them together)

I mean as a "if the squad numbers 5 or more models 1 may take terminator armour for x points", or just the squad leader. You could limit the weapon options for the terminators too. No doubt the new codex will have the wargear section like all the new ones so don't allow that terminator access to the heavy weapon section of the wargear.

You can't group different wolf guard packs together, so at most you can have 2 cyclone terminators in a pack.

What would be the point of a Long Fang in terminator armour but no heavy weapon? Just as an ablative wound for the squad?
You can already attach a Wolf Guard to the squad, and he has the option of terminator armour, AND a CML, AND a Storm Shield if you want to spend the points.

I think it would be weird to put one member of a squad in different armour though

 karlosovic wrote:
What would be the point of a Long Fang in terminator armour but no heavy weapon? Just as an ablative wound for the squad?
You can already attach a Wolf Guard to the squad, and he has the option of terminator armour, AND a CML, AND a Storm Shield if you want to spend the points.

I think it would be weird to put one member of a squad in different armour though

My choice with the Storm Shield Wolf Guard Pack Leader: Terminato Armor, Storm Shield, Storm Bolter, Cyclone Missile Launcher and Mark of the Wolfen.