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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 14:28:25
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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What's a kit that *really* gets to you? It doesn't have to be GW, and it can be an aesthetic, practical or conceptual reason.
I mean, SM is two small sprues with few bibs and bobs, and a lot of wasted space. I look back to even the old tactical marine box, or even the scouts kit and I see far less wasted space.
What this suggests to me is that the SM kit is old. Worse, it's bad. The SM bike has an awful, awful pose, with the biker being a cruiser.
The outrider kit from FW does some of the job in mitigating the design, making them less bulky and more sleek, but they're still a cruiser. and it gets to me. It doesn't seem practical, or even cool.
I'd much prefer, especially for white scars who give off the impression they'd fast, a sports bike pose. So, the rider's forward, rather than sitting in the seat, he's more straddling the seat. That way, he'd be closer to the hull of the bike (so the raised toughness would be more realistic) and he'd be a lot more capable with his attacking. Also, swinging a sword into an assault is a lot easier if you're sitting forward, since you can get more of a range of motion as you cleave an opponent in twain.
those are my reasons. Cruiser bikes would be cool for guard, and work for eldar to an extent, but the dark eldar kit, the sports ride feel it has, that's what I want my flamering tartars of white and red death to look like.
So, what's your peeve model?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 14:33:20
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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Dwarf gyro copters of any era.
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It's spelled "cavalry." NOT "calvary." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 14:36:54
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Any kit (modern) that puts a sprue gate (or mould edge) over detail
Now the software has advanced there is no real excuse for it
it's either a hassle (or impossible) to fix so don't do it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 14:37:41
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Morphing Obliterator
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The new SM kit, the way the arms are positioned you have to use the instruction booklet to get the arms right, the old kit was nice and easy the right arms were place together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 14:40:56
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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gianlucafiorentini123 wrote: The new SM kit, the way the arms are positioned you have to use the instruction booklet to get the arms right, the old kit was nice and easy the right arms were place together.
Only thing I don't like about the current kit is the fact that all (an I mean all the guns) are on the hand. I'd really like a guy holding a gun in the left hand, or, y'know, at his side.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 14:41:56
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Scipio Africanus wrote:
Only thing I don't like about the current kit is the fact that all (an I mean all the guns) are on the hand. I'd really like a guy holding a gun in the left hand, or, y'know, at his side.
Really??? Holy crap. I must have missed that. I am set for Space Marines, but had no idea they changed that!
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 14:47:32
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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kronk wrote: Scipio Africanus wrote:
Only thing I don't like about the current kit is the fact that all (an I mean all the guns) are on the hand. I'd really like a guy holding a gun in the left hand, or, y'know, at his side.
Really??? Holy crap. I must have missed that. I am set for Space Marines, but had no idea they changed that!
Horde those old boltguns. I won 20 in a giffle and I gave away the marines to get 32 more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 14:49:17
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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The reseen Marauder for Battletech. Going together is a little tough..... But the big problem comes from painting it. I have to varnish every few layers or the paint rubs off at the edges.
Apart from that, Airfixes M3 Lee/Grant is a bad kit. The amount of flash on it was insane.
And most of the new GW kits-the designs look cartoonish and terrible.
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Free from GW's tyranny and the hobby is looking better for it
DR:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Pww205++D++A+++/sWD146R++T(T)D+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 15:10:21
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Any SM kit with Rhino chassis. They are a pain to get lined up correctly. I have had Razorback sitting on a box for close to a year because I dread putting it together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 15:15:41
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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squall018 wrote:Any SM kit with Rhino chassis. They are a pain to get lined up correctly. I have had Razorback sitting on a box for close to a year because I dread putting it together.
Why does everyone hate the Rhino Kit? I love it. I don't glue the chassis together and they make for good wrecks when they blow up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 15:22:34
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Dakka Veteran
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Other than remove any metal parts from both the biker and land speeder both kits are what....8 years old???
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<--Bolt on Cuteness: S:20,No armour save, no invul save, no cover save, Range:unlimited---DEAL
Enough too have fun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 15:40:10
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Foxy Wildborne
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jason1977 wrote:Other than remove any metal parts from both the biker and land speeder both kits are what....8 years old???
You;ll be complaining about Crisis Suit ankles next
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 15:43:47
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Infiltrating Oniwaban
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Drop pods. Getting the sides and top engine pieces to align properly and allow the doors to close properly is a nightmare.
Eldar guardians. The arms just don't work well on this kit.
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The Imperial Navy, A Galatic Force for Good. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 16:07:01
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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lord_blackfang wrote: jason1977 wrote:Other than remove any metal parts from both the biker and land speeder both kits are what....8 years old???
You;ll be complaining about Crisis Suit ankles next
I like the crisis suit ankles. They're the only part of the crisis suit kit I like.
I really wish the suit kit had posable arms like the riptide does. I know, I know, it's an old kit. But kid can dream, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 16:26:00
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Centurions....just no please go away..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 16:32:09
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Dakka Veteran
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lord_blackfang wrote: jason1977 wrote:Other than remove any metal parts from both the biker and land speeder both kits are what....8 years old???
You;ll be complaining about Crisis Suit ankles next
Dont play Tau.
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<--Bolt on Cuteness: S:20,No armour save, no invul save, no cover save, Range:unlimited---DEAL
Enough too have fun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 16:46:09
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Big metal/finecast kits. My WoC Helcannon suffered from not going together properly and had tons of issues. There are gaps that need GS. Off the GW topic (since that's all that's here so far), Mantic kits need instruction booklets. Most of the stuff can be figured out relatively easily, but some things like figuring out which sword arm for which paladin, or which Enforcer arm matches to which gun is difficult at times. Instructions, guys, please.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 16:53:29
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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The SM bike kit is very dated. On the bright side, it’s compatible with every other SM kit out there, so you can mix it up. Unlike eldar jetbikes, for example.
I don’t mind rhinos. They are dumpsters on treads, so not very inspiring, but boring doesn’t generate a lot of hate.
Drop pods hold a special, hate filled, place in my heart.
Some of the older kits need to be re-cut. Lots of dead space on the SM commander kit, for example. Is the basic dread still spread over 4 sprues? Not so much bad or annoying kits, just could use some love.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 16:54:11
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Lady of the Lake
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The Exorcist. Just... yeah...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 17:08:16
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Sentinels.. *shudder*
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Muh Black Templars
Blacksails wrote:Maybe you should read your own posts before calling someone else's juvenile. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 17:21:16
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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The worst kit I've ever had to try to put together was the metal Thunderfire Cannon. Nothing about that kit was fun.
The old Chimera and Leman Russ kits were annoying in that they had tons of road wheels (that served no purpose and could not be seen) that were required to assemble the kit.
Infinity models can be infuriating. If you've ever had to put some Pan-O infantry together with their teeny-tiny little metal antennae, they are truly maddening.
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 17:25:20
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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The old metal Empire Steamtank...I literally had to use a vise
grip to hold it together long enough for the glue to dry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 17:33:19
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Restic models. Doesn't matter who made them. It started with my first model, the warjacks from the Cygnar starter.
I hate rhino based kits. They always look like crap once together unless you dry fit it, use about 20 clamps to hold it, and slowly glue the gaps, taking about 3 days to do one chassis (it is how I did mine so they looked half decent gap wise)
Any kit that has the gun as a separate piece. They hardly ever line up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 18:01:09
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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New Space Marines are pretty crappy with the hand attached to the gun. Makes it awkward to glue on, especially if you get a bad batch or something; one of the ones I have has the arm part missing a chunk so if I glue the arm there, it's like his wrist is dangling off of his arm. The old style (arm as one piece, gun separate) was 100x better and still allowed you to pretty easily chop the wrist off if you wanted to do a conversion; no idea why they changed it and I dread the idea that they might do that same crap if/when they redo the CSM plastics.
Honorable mention to the Tau Crisis Suit "chicken feet".
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- Wayne
Formerly WayneTheGame |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 18:10:18
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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Even pinning the damn things doesn't work.....
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 18:12:05
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Necron Warriors. The sprues are too tightly packed, to the point you can't get clippers in there without damaging things. The heads are attached to the sprue by the cheeks. That's right, the cheeks. It's like performing surgery to get the damned things out without damaging them. Then you come to glue them together and the arms don't fit properly in the sockets, so they are attached by the tiniest point.
They wouldn't be so much of a problem if it weren't for the fact they are THE core troops for the army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 18:12:09
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Trollblood champions- arms fall off if you look at them, so much pinning!
Mulg has a similar problem, mine is extensively pinned but still comes apart.
Carnivean was a pain to put together as well! Basically all the big metal warbeasts are a bit of a nightmare.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 18:19:41
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Drop Pods. Absolute pain to build.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 18:38:12
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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Pretty much every Privateer Press plastic kit out there. Detail ranges from crisp to downright muddy in some instances. The mould lines, while cleverly hidden on some newer models, are very difficult to remove, and MUST be removed to get a decent degree of finish on the kit as their presence is magnified once painted. This is a very painstaking and annoying process.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/21 18:46:06
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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I misread and though it said kiDs that annoy you.
Regarding kits; I especially disliked the plastic Killa Kan kit without instructions and the old metal Chaos Spawn miniature. The latter I never was able to get fixed.
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Russian Rebel Grots : 6,500 points painted P: 8 W: 2 D: 5 L: 1
Death Guard 1.0: 8,500 points painted (Pics available in Gallery) P: 7 W: 1 D: 3 L: 3
Death Guard 2.0 "Plaguepigs": 4,250 points painted P:4 W:3 D:0 L: 1
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