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They are never going to actually make it anyways. If they actually get this thing built and working properly, I will change my avatar to a picture of Poroshenko rather than Putin.

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Ukrainian army brought Earthshaker into the conflict zone

It looks dangerously

Spoiler:
Fortunately, it can not shoot

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 Freakazoitt wrote:


Ukrainian army brought Earthshaker into the conflict zone

It looks dangerously

Spoiler:
Fortunately, it can not shoot

Just like 90% of Ukrainian equipment

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Looks like the Russians are now capturing UN people now

https://www.yahoo.com/news/un-employee-captured-ukraine-rebels-104047263.html

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What Russians? There is no mention of Russians at all in the article.

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Russians pro russian rebels same thing different name

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 Ustrello wrote:
Russians pro russian rebels same thing different name

That is just dumb.

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Tell that to the Russians going home in body bags

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 Ustrello wrote:
Tell that to the Russians going home in body bags

And how does the presence of Russian citizens amongst the rebels make the rebels and Russians the same thing with a different name?

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 Iron_Captain wrote:
 Ustrello wrote:
Tell that to the Russians going home in body bags

And how does the presence of Russian citizens amongst the rebels make the rebels and Russians the same thing with a different name?


*russian army units ftfy

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That still doesn't makes them the same.
   
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 Ustrello wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
 Ustrello wrote:
Tell that to the Russians going home in body bags

And how does the presence of Russian citizens amongst the rebels make the rebels and Russians the same thing with a different name?


*russian army units ftfy

Even if the entire Russian army were deployed to Donbass, that still would not make the Russians and the rebels the same thing.

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That one might not shoot, but Stalin's Sledgehammer there was produced up into the 1990's and the Ukrainians have been using the 2S7M Malka, it's 203mm grandchild.

*sigh* That old B-4 makes me nostalgic for some reason.




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Is this a good place to post about the SU-24 fly-by of the US Destroyer Donald Cook?

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/04/13/russian-su-24-attack-aircraft-us-navy-destroyer-donald-cook-baltic-sea/82979184/


In one of the most aggressive actions in recent memory, Russian warplanes conducted “simulated attacks” on the a U.S. Navy vessel in the Baltic Sea on Tuesday, repeatedly flying within 30 feet of the ship, according to a defense official.

Sailors aboard the destroyer Donald Cook said the aircraft flew low enough to create wake in the sea waters surrounding the ship, and the ship’s commanding officer said the incident was “unsafe and unprofessional,” the defense official said.

“This was more aggressive than anything we’ve seen in some time,” according to the defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because U.S. officials have not officially disclosed the incidents.

Sailors aboard the ship described the Sukhoi Russian Su-24 as “wings clean,” meaning there were no visible bombs or armaments on the aircraft, the defense official said.

The nature of the overflight as a “simulated attack” may violate a 1973 treaty between the U.S. and Russia that specifically prohibits this type of maneuver, the defense official said.


NAVY TIMES
War of words erupts after DDG's encounter with Russians

The maneuver was one of several aggressive moves by Russian aircraft on Monday and Tuesday.

Shortly after leaving the Polish port of Gdynia, near Gdansk, on Monday, the Donald Cook at was sea in international waters conducting flight operations with a Polish helicopter, part of routine joint training exercises with the NATO ally.

During those flight operations, a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 combat aircraft appeared and conducted about 20 overflights, coming within 1,000 yards of the ship at an altitude of about 100 feet, the defense official said. In response, the commander of the Donald Cook suspended flight operations.

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 BaronIveagh wrote:


That one might not shoot, but Stalin's Sledgehammer there was produced up into the 1990's and the Ukrainians have been using the 2S7M Malka, it's 203mm grandchild.

*sigh* That old B-4 makes me nostalgic for some reason.




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Damn it Baron, you know that song is too catchy, now you got it stuck in my head! artilleristy, stalin dal prikaz... I can't get it out anymore. iz soten tysyach batarej... I can't think of anything else anymore... za nashu rodinu agon'! agon'!
People are looking at me weirdly now...


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Is this a good place to post about the SU-24 fly-by of the US Destroyer Donald Cook?

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/04/13/russian-su-24-attack-aircraft-us-navy-destroyer-donald-cook-baltic-sea/82979184/

Spoiler:

In one of the most aggressive actions in recent memory, Russian warplanes conducted “simulated attacks” on the a U.S. Navy vessel in the Baltic Sea on Tuesday, repeatedly flying within 30 feet of the ship, according to a defense official.

Sailors aboard the destroyer Donald Cook said the aircraft flew low enough to create wake in the sea waters surrounding the ship, and the ship’s commanding officer said the incident was “unsafe and unprofessional,” the defense official said.

“This was more aggressive than anything we’ve seen in some time,” according to the defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because U.S. officials have not officially disclosed the incidents.

Sailors aboard the ship described the Sukhoi Russian Su-24 as “wings clean,” meaning there were no visible bombs or armaments on the aircraft, the defense official said.

The nature of the overflight as a “simulated attack” may violate a 1973 treaty between the U.S. and Russia that specifically prohibits this type of maneuver, the defense official said.


NAVY TIMES
War of words erupts after DDG's encounter with Russians

The maneuver was one of several aggressive moves by Russian aircraft on Monday and Tuesday.

Shortly after leaving the Polish port of Gdynia, near Gdansk, on Monday, the Donald Cook at was sea in international waters conducting flight operations with a Polish helicopter, part of routine joint training exercises with the NATO ally.

During those flight operations, a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 combat aircraft appeared and conducted about 20 overflights, coming within 1,000 yards of the ship at an altitude of about 100 feet, the defense official said. In response, the commander of the Donald Cook suspended flight operations.

Pestering the yanks never gets boring chto byet i zhet vraga stalnaya nasha vyuga...
I should probably stop replaying that song now...

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Not the first time the Cook's been harassed in open water near Russia.


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I should probably stop replaying that song now...


Like the Kurds, I have turned the power of Stalin against Russians! See how their minds cannot handle it! Bwa ha ha ha ha!

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Can you read? It says "DNR rebels"
Rebels claims that a captured was saboteur and had no documents confirming his involvement in the UN. But I am still against such actions. As well as mortar and sniper fire from the Ukrainian army targeting UN inspectors (you probably read only the news from Kiev and did not hear about such)


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 Easy E wrote:
Is this a good place to post about the SU-24 fly-by of the US Destroyer Donald Cook?

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/04/13/russian-su-24-attack-aircraft-us-navy-destroyer-donald-cook-baltic-sea/82979184/


In one of the most aggressive actions in recent memory, Russian warplanes conducted “simulated attacks” on the a U.S. Navy vessel in the Baltic Sea on Tuesday, repeatedly flying within 30 feet of the ship, according to a defense official.

Sailors aboard the destroyer Donald Cook said the aircraft flew low enough to create wake in the sea waters surrounding the ship, and the ship’s commanding officer said the incident was “unsafe and unprofessional,” the defense official said.

“This was more aggressive than anything we’ve seen in some time,” according to the defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because U.S. officials have not officially disclosed the incidents.

Sailors aboard the ship described the Sukhoi Russian Su-24 as “wings clean,” meaning there were no visible bombs or armaments on the aircraft, the defense official said.

The nature of the overflight as a “simulated attack” may violate a 1973 treaty between the U.S. and Russia that specifically prohibits this type of maneuver, the defense official said.


NAVY TIMES
War of words erupts after DDG's encounter with Russians

The maneuver was one of several aggressive moves by Russian aircraft on Monday and Tuesday.

Shortly after leaving the Polish port of Gdynia, near Gdansk, on Monday, the Donald Cook at was sea in international waters conducting flight operations with a Polish helicopter, part of routine joint training exercises with the NATO ally.

During those flight operations, a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 combat aircraft appeared and conducted about 20 overflights, coming within 1,000 yards of the ship at an altitude of about 100 feet, the defense official said. In response, the commander of the Donald Cook suspended flight operations.




Good thing that Fencer was not carrying a strike package while it's crew was dicking around. They might have ended up taking a Standard up the tailpipe if they had been, and the skipper perceived a combat threat to the vessel.

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Seeing as we don't have a Russia thread (rather just Russia invading other countries threads...), a bit about the reorganization of the National Guard.

A draft presidential decree detailing the main tasks and functions of the recently established National Guard agency allows it to take part in international operations including peacekeeping missions.


The possible use of National Guard troops in operations in other countries radically distinguishes it from Interior Ministry troops that serve as the basis for the new force. Current Russian laws don’t permit sending Interior Ministry forces on foreign missions.

The document, published on the federal website on Tuesday, gives the new force the official name of Rosgvardia (short for “Russian Guards”), in addition to the National Guard name used by Vladimir Putin when he announced its creation earlier this month.
It also officially establishes the previously announced scheme under which Rosgvardia is commanded directly by the president of the Russian Federation. According to the draft decree the new force will soon receive its own emblem and flag.

https://www.rt.com/politics/339290-russian-national-guard-to-get/
   
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Why Putin not named them "space guards". AK can shoot in space.

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 Freakazoitt wrote:
Why Putin not named them "space guards". AK can shoot in space.

He already has space forces: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Space_Forces
Space forces! They sound much more awesome than they are.

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Oh how cute the Western propaganda "forgot" to mention one interesting detail...

The representative of the UN Mission Yuri Suprun, who is currently being kept by militants in Donetsk region, is a former employee of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU).

«He (Suprun – ed.) is not an employee of the SBU, although he indeed used to work for this service. Now, he is a representative of the UN Mission, and his detention by militants is a shameful manifestation of violation of international agreements, since this person, as the UN member, was granted with immunity” said Tkachuk.

According to him, Suprun was on official mission in the [...] territory and had all the necessary documents confirming his status.

As previously reported, United Nations calls for immediate release of UN staff member who is currently been held captive in [...] Donetsk.


http://ukraineunderattack.org/en/63234-un-staff-member-currently-kept-by-militants-used-to-work-for-sbu.html

SBU is ukranian former KGB under the CIA supervision and the patron of Right Sector and the rest of the ukranian neo-Nazis. He is lucky he hasn't be hang right on the spot.


Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs (now Police) Troops, who would become the bases of the new military force have already been named "Rosgard" (from Russian Guard) officially so they wouldn't be associated with the American or what even much worse ukranian neo-Nazi "National Guard". Ministry of Internal Affairs Troops has been in charge of internal security since Russian Empire and later USSR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Troops_of_Russia I know we don't have delinquent degenerates here, on Dakka, so please pass this information to your friends somewhere else so they wouldn't be crapping bricks in their Russophobic fit.


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Forgot to mention or that Western news has moved on and couldn't give a toss? If its directed at posters here for not mentioning it, then well, how many of us actually care to delve into local news that much? I just post crap from military news forums which catch my eye (thus all the tanks...).

I mean if you really want to get into current events, and running on the tiring "all Ukrainians are Nazis" spiel, here, have a picture from Azov's latest social media campaign:



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They are recruiting children now?

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konst80hummel wrote:
They are recruiting children now?

Yup. Altough not for active service or frontline combat of course. It is more like a military-style summer camp to prepare them for future service, similar to what the Cossacks do with their kids.
It also serves to indoctrinate the kids with their ideology, so it is pretty much an Ukrainian Hitler Jugend.


Edit:
I found a short english article on the camp. From the pictures, it actually looks a lot more tame than the Crimean camp I went to. They don't even wear military uniforms.
http://ukrainiancrusade.blogspot.nl/2015/08/childrens-camp-azovian-we-care-about.html

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36053524

"I was misinformed by my aides".

I didn't mean to spew propaganda that even in Russia was easily disproven.


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konst80hummel wrote:
They are recruiting children now?


Well, they don't get born being Nazis, but they sure grow up fast to become ones, especially under new neo-Nazi regime in Kiev. Those five billion dollars US has spent (only officially) haven't been for nothing.



Neo-Nazis March in Lvov “In Honor” of Ukrainian Waffen SS Division

http://www.independent.mk/articles/4404/Neo-Nazis+March+in+Lvov+In+Honor+of+Ukrainian+Waffen+SS+Division

Oh, Independent is slightly "mistaken" about "SS members were labeled war criminals". The Western Allies, didn't include the members of the SS-Volunteer Divisions from "ukraine" and the Baltic states into that category but rather into "freedom fighters" and allowed them to immigrate to USA, Canada, South America and Australia to escape the prosecution and to have a valuable military-trained manpower in the starting of the Cold War.



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Well to be honest they decided to choose hitler over the man and country (stalin russia) who left them to die (via not evacuating western ukraine and kiev) and starved them to death (holodomor). Then again why would you trust a man who literally destroyed and edited out Trotsky. Who in my opinion was the true hero of the russian revolution (probably more than lenin). My guess is depending on when you were born (assuming you lived in russia) you dont even know who Trotsky is.

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 Yaraton wrote:

Oh, Independent is slightly "mistaken" about "SS members were labeled war criminals". The Western Allies, didn't include the members of the SS-Volunteer Divisions from "ukraine" and the Baltic states into that category


Or most other places for that matter, since the vast majority of the 'Volunteers' were actually conscripted. Interestingly, many of those same Baltic SS also served as the guards for the Nuremberg Tribunal. Something tells me they were not what one might call 'believers' in Nazism.


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