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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 06:51:08
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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As I look back at the 10 years since I got into this hobby, it occurs to me that my tastes have have changed dramatically. How I approach the hobby has completely reversed itself from when I started out. It makes me wonder whether time and experience have seasoned me and narrowed my focus...or if dwindling purchasing power and evaporating hobby time have forced me to embrace new reservoirs of hobby enjoyment juice. Unfortunately, I think it's the latter.
Playing
I have always been big on modelling and board gaming, going back to when I ragequit FASA Starfleet Battles as a little boy. Then Battletech. But my love of the two did not come together until 2003, when I discovered... not Games Workshop, but Agents of Gaming. Long story short: Babylon5-->Battlefleet Gothic-->Black Library-->WH40K-->wargaming warmodelling.
I used to play BFG a 'lot' (three to five times a year!), with an occasional 40k game (2 so far!), but now I just don't have the time. These days, if I can trick my wife into thinking of it as a boardgame (bless you, Space Hulk), I might get to play twice a year, but probably not (Heroclix didn't fool her). So, my interest in the games go along the lines of, "What games will I likely convince my wife to play with my son when he is old enough to scream, flip the board and shatter irreplaceable models?", so mostly Mantic games. I was hoping Sedition Wars would work out, but time has made a fool of me there.
For that reason, semi-board games like Arcane Legions, Dreadball and Deadzone are the kinds of games I'm moving toward instead of the massive pew-pew battles of my youth. Just, please don't let me settle for playing Risk in ten years. If Risk and Monopoly dominate my gaming nights, please put me down like a brundlefly.
Buying
I used to buy the big Battleforces because I wanted as many combinations of models and bits as possible. I used to buy two or three big purchases a year around my birthday, Black Friday and Christmas. Now, I make much smaller purchases at those times (like $100 as opposed to $300 or even $500), but I also make a few other purchases during the year to get by or test the waters with a new company. Kickstarter funds mostly come out of Birthday and Holiday money, but smaller ones come out of the hobby budget. I definitely don't buy as much as I used to, and now mostly from smaller companies with cheaper products.
Modelling
I am a kitbasher at heart. Or I was. I used to try to make everything from plastic bits, the weirder the better. I spent so long converting my all-plastic Karl Franz on Dreadclaw that by the time I finished GW had released an all plastic Karl Franz on Dreadclaw. Ditto with my all-plastic Hive Tyrant. Then I started using historicals to try to convert sci fi troops...until mantic and Dreamforge came along and just sold those kits. Now...I'm still converting, but I tend to wait and see on a lot of projects if it seems like someone is going to make a kit in the next few years...which makes me more of a kit hoarder than a kit basher.
I also used to buy more metals. Not many, because eww, but any great sculpt or design I couldn't find in plastic. Now, I just know exactly how frustrated I'm going to be working on a metal model that won't glue easily and will drop the moment I paint it. No more $15 AoW metals for me! Resin's not worth it anymore, either. Or restic. Anything I have to clean for more than 5 minutes is too much of a pain to be worth using up my decreasing hobby time. I'll still buy Wargods or Reaper metals from time to time, but they are cheap and easier to work with than restic.
The really big shifts are in scale and prepaints. I used to look down my nose at historicals and spit on pre-paints. No longer. After I discovered 1/72 through Arcane Legions, I realized how cheap it would be to make a truly massive KoW army from historicals with some monsters thrown in. Confrontation sold me on prepaints, or rather Bones did.
Painting
My wife and I painted very few models because we spent so much time getting them just right. Now? Grab a hanful of Bones and see how much painting can be done with just washes. The Army Painter method is more and more appealing every session.
"Playing"
I don't get as much cuddle time with my completed or painted models as I need. I still try to play pew pews with them, but I can usually only fit it in after everyone's asleep or while I'm on the phone with the insurance company. I miss being able to grab a fantasy novel or movie and a handful of minis and just be a kid again.
Fortunately, it is very important to teach my son how to play with his toys. Somehow, he has a lot of dragons and robots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 07:11:33
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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I no longer paint just to get something on the table.
When I first got into the hobby I was mostly just content to slap some paint on a mini until it was good enough to go on the table and then I'd forget about it.
These days I'm perfectly happy playing with an all grey army so long as the three models on my painting table are done to the absolute best of my abilities.
I also started out buying whatever looked cool, then, over time, realized half of those cool models would never see the tabletop because they sucked and for a long time I'd build, discuss and test lists long before buying the models to make them so I knew what I was buying would be useful. These days I am back to buying things that look cool (including a lot of models that are for painting only) or, in the case of Dystopian Wars, I've just been buying everything.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 07:46:01
Subject: Re:How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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When I first started wargaming last February I was content to just do three colors and a wash. Now I find myself much more concerned about having a fluffy, nice looking army to "forge a narrative", whatever that means.
My biggest problem is and has always been to some extent, overspending. The first thing I bought was the DV box with the chaplain for $119, at the time it was a really big purchase for me, because that much for plastic space men seemed kind of crazy. I guess it still is but I have made peace with it. But now I can easily drop a few hundred bucks in a week on this hobby, as soon as I got my new credit card this month it was almost maxed out about five days later, $400 was on 40k related stuff, lol. I'm very impulsive about this sort of thing for some reason and if I have an idea, I want the product to make it right now, in fact I wanted it five minutes ago, why is it not in my hand at this very moment. To this end I buy almost all of my hobby stuff from my FLGSs new when I could save money online, but the good part is at least I'm supporting my local gaming store.
I never intended to enter any tournaments and still never have, but now I can see this in my future, I watched a tourney while waiting for a casual game and it looked awesome.
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“Idleness is the enemy of the soul; and therefore the brethren ought to be employed in manual labor at certain times, at others, in devout reading.”
― St. Benedict of Nursia, The Rule of Saint Benedict
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 07:49:04
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Used to buy a lot of GW stuff , in the beginning of time, i mean when GW during 90's i bought every Space marines that came out, until a certain time when the prices went beyond my comfort zone, now i buy lots of stuff from other companies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 08:47:05
Subject: Re:How have your hobby tastes changed?
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For me, it's not so much a case of how I have changed but rather how external factors have changed me. Obviously, having two small children and all the attendant work that goes with them has eaten into my hobby time and changed the time I spend but I have also found as I got older, I don't want to spend umpteen hours painting and modelling. I have always tended to view painting as a necessary evil and even more so now I have got older. Nowadays, I find I get sudden bursts of enthusiasm and motivation to do something so I have to harness that where I can to get things done.
Gaming wise, well, time pressures and squeezes on my spare time mean I hardly play anything like the amount I used to. This has reflected in my gaming choices which now lean towards skirmish games and low model count games that can be set up quickly, played quickly and easy to learn. The other side to my gaming habits these days are a preference for older games and systems. I much prefer playing older versions of Epic, Man O' War, Necromunda, Mordheim and even older editions of 40K (I have a bizarre fondness for 3rd/4th even though they aren't usually held in much regard by others)
The saddest indication I am growing older as a gamer is the realisation that I no longer have the inclination nor the will to remember all the rules and clauses of a rulebook. When it comes to playing GW games, I often spend large portions of time flipping through various books and referring to different books because I can't remember how a rule works or forgot that a particular unit had a particular ability. It means I don't get the enjoyment I used to get out of GW games because of this; it seems to me things are needlessly more complicated than they need to be or ever were.. Having said that, playing 2nd Ed Epic involves just as much flipping between books as 40k does. Maybe it's just a GW thing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 09:37:21
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Morphing Obliterator
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I still buy mainly GW products, but have picked up the kings of war rules.
I tend to scour ebay and ask friends for any minis that have spare instead of buying the majority from GW though.
Of my 1500pts Iron Warrior army, I think only a sorceror and a couple of marine squads came from GW direct. The rest was ebay, friends and forge world for the heresy era autocannons. Automatically Appended Next Post: I also still enjoy necromunda and blood bowl, and am looking at deadzone once I have had a few trial games of it.
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Chaos Space Marines - Iron Warriors & Night Lords 7900pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 10:35:56
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Calculating Commissar
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I used to buy whatever looked cool and bodging together armies. I still buy the odd cool to paint figure but I'm trying to be more disciplined in buying since I have less free time now. So I tend to buy what I need for a given game.
I'm also more likely to buy a new faction for a new game than to expand an existing one; it gives me more variety and more potential opponents.
Painting wise I'm also happy fielding primed mini's, until I can paint them properly. I usually go for a suitably coloured primer anyway so it's more than just bare plastic.
I also spend a lot more time looking at 3rd parties and independents now, and 2nd hand for value for money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 10:46:22
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Bryan Ansell
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I have become much more relaxed and open minded about how I go about my hobby.
I used to look down on anything that wasn't 28mm but now have the 15mm and 20mm itch like mad!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 11:54:28
Subject: Re:How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Hulking Hunter-class Warmech
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I used to like WH40k, never been much of a gamer but all my modelling projects were 40k related. Within the last few years though I've become much less enthusiastic about it. I still love a lot of the fluff, but I've become much less interested in models and armies set in that universe. (Necromunda is kind of an exception, I still want to finish some gangs and scenery to run a campaign, but that's for another day... )
A few years ago I bought into Flames of War and loved the different scale. Now I've got into 15mm historicals in a big way and spend most of my modelling and painting time working with 15mm armies for various periods. It was because of that that made me pay more attention to history too; around the same time I started doing a lot more research into the armies I was putting together, and it's something that continues to fascinate me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 12:05:38
Subject: Re:How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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- I tend to use a lot of player-made stuff now
- I'm now actually trying to paint well when I paint
- I've started to put some more focus into conversions
- I now find a chaotic game more fun than a competitive one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 12:12:49
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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Considering the gap I had between when I started, and when I've restarted now, I think my painting/modelling attitude must have changed. I think its down to being older really. Because now I want to paint using the proper techniques, do a good job, and green stuff things as well. Also, with my first tyranids, I just used hive fleet Behemoth colours, and now, I'm using my own colour scheme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 13:33:16
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Brigadier General
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Context:
Started in the early 90's as a teen. Now I'm in my 30's with kids. Almost everything about my hobby and my life has changed in between.
Games:
Started with 40k and a bit of Battletech. 40k was my only for over a decade. Now I play a whole range of games, most of them are generic games like song of blades and heroes.
Rules complexity:
Started with 40k, and BT which are fairly chunky rules-heavy games. Now I play mostly streamlined fast-play games like Kings of War, Alpha Strike and others which accept a bit of abstraction in order to provide a faster game and minimize rules checking. I just don't have the time or desire to memorize tomes of rules anymore.
Miniatures:
Used to mostly buy and play new GW figures. Now I mostly buy used figures from a multitude of makers.
Playing:
I used to game 2-6 times a year. 3 years ago I formed a club with a couple guys and we've been playing every other week since then. Originally playing wasn't a big part of the hobby for me. Now the time spent playing with my friends and enjoying their company is nearly the most important part of the hobby.
Painting:
I used to paint slow with very simple paint schemes. I now paint fast with very simple paint schemes, but learning how to use a minwax dip and a few other techniques means that I'm actually proud of the results I achieve. I have very little interest in going much deeper in my paint skills as I've found a method that gets results I like in the limited amount of time I have.
Terrain:
GW card-n-plastic terrain and a few really bad pieces of homemade terrain where what I used back then. Now I build my own terrain and (if I may say so) have achieved a standard of terrain building that results in great looking games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 14:10:09
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I have zero tolerance for inferior rules. Everything else is still pretty much the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0200/01/27 14:43:51
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I don’t know if my tastes have changed, or just the opportunities to play.
Back in the late 80s, early 90s I was a kid with plenty of free time. Less cash overall, but 100% of it was disposable income. My gaming group at the time was composed mostly of wargamers, although we did RPGs as well. We tended to go with complicated games like Car Wars and Star Fleet Battles, but some mid/light games like Battletech, Interceptor, and OGRE. But pizza-fueled all-weekend games were the norm, not an exception. We might take some breaks in the main event for some beer and pretzel games. My 40k at the time was collecting random stuff for RT played as a RPG.
In my college years the group I hung with were more role-players then wargamers. People also had more time commitments, so while we still gamed a great deal, it was not in marathon sessions of my high school days. This was also the time where CCGs hit the world. When not playing RPGs, we tended to play cards or board games.
Until we started playing WHFB. I got most of them on board, and we played a lot. We were all young, single, and had jobs. I started to migrate some of them over to 40k, but when 3rd edition dropped, that put a crimp in that plan.
As we aged, the wargaming fad dropped from my group. With the exception of myself and one other friend, they are role-players. My only outlet was pickup games at my FLGS and a few times a year when my friend’s cousins are in town (also wargamers) Somewhere in this time I got married, had a son, and became a full-time dad (aka a single income family, so minimal hobby budget)
As to how things have changed, I’m not sure. I’ve been miniature painting since someone in my old gaming group bought some crummy genadier minis and used them instead of random dice and/or markers to represent his character on the game mat. I still enjoy painting, not just to get usable game pieces on the table, but for it’s own merit.
I think my goals have shifted from “winning” to “having fun” I always enjoyed playing games, win or lose. But in the old days, I’d get more caught up in the rules arguments, or if you had LOS, and that kind of thing. I’m more prone to wave it off you a “sure” these days.
Do I miss spending all week designing my car for Saturday’s 8 hour autoduel? Or memorizing the phonebook thick SFB rulebook, figuring out some new tactic to spring on my friends? Sure. Do I have the time for that? Nope. Complicated systems are a different kind of fun though, and sometimes I long for them. We do occasionally dust off older, retro RPGs to play. I’m currently in a Spacemaster campaign. Frequently the system strikes me a needlessly complicated and overwrought. But sometimes fast and loose systems like Savage Worlds (which I enjoy) need a little more crunch to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 14:44:11
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Fixture of Dakka
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*Started with one-off Dungeon fantasy models for RPGs
*Got into WH Fantasy which got me into GW.
*Became big into 40k, gorkamorka and bloodbowl
*Got into the GW GT circuit where I would bang out an entire new army every year, many races, would sell the army at the end of the year.
*Took a break
*Began re-habing older models from my collection, stripped and repainted most my orks.
*Got back into RPGs, began collecting RPG one-off models again
*Kickstarters happened, been getting boardgames and cool models and painting them.
*Now I sculpt some of my own models
So modeling, painting, gaming, tastes have changed, different things but it is natural.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 14:57:06
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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They haven't, much.
I started wargaming many many moons ago with model ww2 tanks and homebrewed rules my brother cooked up. I was probably about 5 or 6. I still think tanks are cool, and still have many of those tanks.
I played WHFB, dwarves and undead. I no longer play WHFB, but that's mainly because i have no money or space for another army/rulebook etc - still think dwarves and undead rock.
I've played 40K orks since RT. I still do.
I've tried almost every other army out there as a spare army, but my orks iz goin' nowherez.
I played all the various specialist games like blood bown, dark future, necromunda, epic etc. I don't have the rulesets or models for most of them anymore but would still happily play them if i got the chance. I still do play Necromunda.
As to buying, the only change is that i'm having a harder time affording the models this last 10 years or so
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 16:00:27
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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1st Lieutenant
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I feel I have almost come full circle
I started in my pre teens making WW2 models. In my early teens I moved to 40K and stayed with it until I was 16. I took a small hiatus and rejoined 40K in my mid 20's but in my late 20's/now early 30's I 'm far more into other games like a FoW infinity and lookingvtobtry Malifaux, I haven 't even played 40k for a year.
The biggest change has been that I used to just love gaming, painting was very secondary to it all. Now it's about the spectacle, I paint everything, make sure terrain is good too and then play! I probably even play more now than when I played 40K (1-2 times a week for FoW currently!) I ALS attend more events now too.
I still love the gaming, but it has got to be good looking too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 16:17:32
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I used to play a ton of WHFB/40k a decade ago, until the game shop went out of business and the only ones were 45+ minutes away, and the cost got so much that I couldn't justify just going to the shop and dropping money on a whim. I actually stopped playing any kind of miniatures game for nearly that long, only considering getting back into the game recently (I had considered it once before in 2007 or so but still had no shop) but the cost is still too prohibitive.
Instead, I've gotten my brother to consider playing Kings of War since that's much cheaper, to also consider getting some historicals, and I'm considering looking into Warmachine as something to play at the game store with other people.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 16:24:37
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:As I look back at the 10 years since I got into this hobby, it occurs to me that my tastes have have changed dramatically. How I approach the hobby has completely reversed itself from when I started out. It makes me wonder whether time and experience have seasoned me and narrowed my focus...or if dwindling purchasing power and evaporating hobby time have forced me to embrace new reservoirs of hobby enjoyment juice. Unfortunately, I think it's the latter.
Playing
I have always been big on modelling and board gaming, going back to when I ragequit FASA Starfleet Battles as a little boy. Then Battletech. But my love of the two did not come together until 2003, when I discovered... not Games Workshop, but Agents of Gaming. Long story short: Babylon5-->Battlefleet Gothic-->Black Library-->WH40K--> wargaming warmodelling.
I used to play BFG a 'lot' (three to five times a year!), with an occasional 40k game (2 so far!), but now I just don't have the time. These days, if I can trick my wife into thinking of it as a boardgame (bless you, Space Hulk), I might get to play twice a year, but probably not (Heroclix didn't fool her). So, my interest in the games go along the lines of, "What games will I likely convince my wife to play with my son when he is old enough to scream, flip the board and shatter irreplaceable models?", so mostly Mantic games. I was hoping Sedition Wars would work out, but time has made a fool of me there.
For that reason, semi-board games like Arcane Legions, Dreadball and Deadzone are the kinds of games I'm moving toward instead of the massive pew-pew battles of my youth. Just, please don't let me settle for playing Risk in ten years. If Risk and Monopoly dominate my gaming nights, please put me down like a brundlefly.
Buying
I used to buy the big Battleforces because I wanted as many combinations of models and bits as possible. I used to buy two or three big purchases a year around my birthday, Black Friday and Christmas. Now, I make much smaller purchases at those times (like $100 as opposed to $300 or even $500), but I also make a few other purchases during the year to get by or test the waters with a new company. Kickstarter funds mostly come out of Birthday and Holiday money, but smaller ones come out of the hobby budget. I definitely don't buy as much as I used to, and now mostly from smaller companies with cheaper products.
Modelling
I am a kitbasher at heart. Or I was. I used to try to make everything from plastic bits, the weirder the better. I spent so long converting my all-plastic Karl Franz on Dreadclaw that by the time I finished GW had released an all plastic Karl Franz on Dreadclaw. Ditto with my all-plastic Hive Tyrant. Then I started using historicals to try to convert sci fi troops...until mantic and Dreamforge came along and just sold those kits. Now...I'm still converting, but I tend to wait and see on a lot of projects if it seems like someone is going to make a kit in the next few years...which makes me more of a kit hoarder than a kit basher.
I also used to buy more metals. Not many, because eww, but any great sculpt or design I couldn't find in plastic. Now, I just know exactly how frustrated I'm going to be working on a metal model that won't glue easily and will drop the moment I paint it. No more $15 AoW metals for me! Resin's not worth it anymore, either. Or restic. Anything I have to clean for more than 5 minutes is too much of a pain to be worth using up my decreasing hobby time. I'll still buy Wargods or Reaper metals from time to time, but they are cheap and easier to work with than restic.
The really big shifts are in scale and prepaints. I used to look down my nose at historicals and spit on pre-paints. No longer. After I discovered 1/72 through Arcane Legions, I realized how cheap it would be to make a truly massive KoW army from historicals with some monsters thrown in. Confrontation sold me on prepaints, or rather Bones did.
Painting
My wife and I painted very few models because we spent so much time getting them just right. Now? Grab a hanful of Bones and see how much painting can be done with just washes. The Army Painter method is more and more appealing every session.
"Playing"
I don't get as much cuddle time with my completed or painted models as I need. I still try to play pew pews with them, but I can usually only fit it in after everyone's asleep or while I'm on the phone with the insurance company. I miss being able to grab a fantasy novel or movie and a handful of minis and just be a kid again.
Fortunately, it is very important to teach my son how to play with his toys. Somehow, he has a lot of dragons and robots.
I am very surprised you do not want to use Resin miniatures and stand with only plastic casted miniatures. I will say as a company odds are I will never do plastic casted miniatures, as i never found anyone who could cast them for me, and those few who do offer services the prices for a single mold scare off most smaller companies like my own and so we stick with either metal or resin for our casting material of choice. I am sorry to hear that because their are a lot of companies if not the majority that cast in those two mediums. I might be able to find a cheap plastic caster in China or something but i would also rather like to support local companies to do my casting for me.
Anyhow everyone has a right for their own choices i just see that as limiting what you can buy in the wargaming market? as most companies do not cast in plastic at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 16:43:45
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Raging Ravener
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They've clearly changed over the years but that's to be expected with outside influences. I used to buy GW on a monthly basis, now it's sometimes 6 months or more between purchases save Codecies. My last buy was a Riptide on release...
I don't get to game as much because our group has dwindled but we normally get one a month.
The biggest change has been my focus from painting up models ready for the next battle to concentrating on making more and more terrain.
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More than 7pts, less than 7000...just
4000+ 2500 2000+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 16:44:49
Subject: Re:How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Fighter Ace
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I definitely started as a play as many games as I can, play to win, who cares if it's painted kind of guy. I was young at the time, my teens, and I definitely saw it as a way to be competitive.
Now I've gone and started a family, I'm settling down, and I can afford to buy way more stuff. But I can't buy as much stuff because of my life! So I've definitely shifted more into the slowly painting through an army to the level that I'm happy with. I love playing with painted models, and I love putting together new kits and models. So I find myself playing a lot more large fluffy games, or testing out new rules with the local TO and FLGS so they can get a feel of how the new books affect different games. Overall I'm much more satisfied with my hobby now, and not playing to be super competitive is way more rewarding, because I'm not as stressed!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 17:11:29
Subject: Re:How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Hellacious Havoc
Old Trafford, Manchester
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I've been making model kits for a long time, close to thirty years, and I've moved from 1/72 scale aircraft to 28mm miniatures, diverting along the way with Tamiya's 1/35 scale figures. When I started modelmaking I just made kits that appealed to me, built and painted straight out of the box, but now I look at a kit and think, "how can I convert it?" - GW's mail order bits service was fantastic for that.
Of course, with the Internet, getting accessories and conversion parts is really simple now and makes more complex conversions possible, but conversely I don't paint nearly so often because I secretly think I can't do my creations justice. :-(
Also, pre-Internet, I was pretty much tied to what my local model shop sold (and later, GW) because mail order felt more risky than now in that you didn't see what you were buying. Now I buy parts from all over the world, and I think I'm very lucky to be able to do so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 19:19:07
Subject: Re:How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Nimble Ellyrian Reaver
York, PA USA
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Mainly I lost the ability to cope with all of the new stuff. It was simply overwhelming, so I tuned out. Right now I collect early 2000's WFB armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 20:27:31
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Used to buy GW stuff. Now I stay away from it like fire. I still love the 40k lore so it's a shame.
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My Armies:
5,500pts
2,700pts
2,000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 20:42:26
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Morphing Obliterator
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I used to paint just to get the models finished, and move on to the next thing. Now I try to paint models to the highest standard that I can.
I've also moved away from GW only and have been trying to expand into other companies and I've started to buy minis just because and not to just add them into my armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 23:00:36
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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I used to buy things in a haphazard fashion. This stopped the day I came home with an impulse purchase of Sniper Scouts only to find a box on my shelf already... still in shrink wrap.
I now plan out my purchases a bit more meticulously, but I still over purchase. However, I also make a concerted effort to get things painted and onto the table.
I have a very organized system for working through my painting progress.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 00:42:08
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Powerful Irongut
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The main change is that I have decided to stop following fashion and flitting from game to game, and just buy the things I like and play the games that interest me.
And so I have started working on projects that I have always wanted to do - like WWI, complete with a modular trench system.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 03:11:41
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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When I first joined the Hobby I could never have seen myself doing historical miniatures, or even Science Fiction stuff. Now I'm planning to do Black Powder with my father who is very much into history, and looking into other historical systems too. I used to not be interested in Mechwarrior/Battletech, but now I find myself very much into big stompy robots of all types. Debating between going big into Battletech or into Heavy Gear. Heavy Gear seems more. . . fun?
As far as everything else goes, I'm still majorly into RPGs, but shifting towards the Science Fiction such as Traveller and Star Wars (even though it's space fantasy). My painting is much more refined and I plan everything out much better than I ever did before.
Oh, and now that I know mold lines exist I can never go back to acting like they aren't there!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 03:25:59
Subject: Re:How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Here's my take on it:
Playing
I used to live in a huge apartment with three other players, so we could leave our games in the middle to go do something and pick them back up on the morrow. We would game every other day, almost, and paint "religiously." That was about 12 years ago. Once I got into stable relationships, it went from a girl that loathed my hobby but was too busy with school, to a wife in another country, to my current fiancee who likes the fact that I am passionate about things. I used to love Mordheim and Battlefleet Gothic, but focused mostly on WHFB and W40K. Oh, and 1ed Warzone. Lurved 1ed Warzone.
Buying
Working for an oil company back then, I could afford a lot of wargaming stuff. I would probably buy about 150-200$ worth of stuff (and considering the prices back then, I got a lot for that) Now that I have gone through school and cannot find employment in my field, I have to limit my purchases. So far nothing this year! I had a rash of Kickstarters in 2012, but that too has pretty much died down. I estimate I will probably spend less than 500$ this year. Especially this year, if those KS come home to roost.
Modelling
At first, I used to assemble in batches to have legal armies on the field. I would rarely do conversions because I was discovering the medium and getting basic skills down. Now I try to repurpose minis I like for the games I prefer as much as possible. IIf I like a game system but don't like the mini, I will convert a warband or army. If I want to go on a lark, then I do so. I used to loathe metal for the weight and the old school poses. I would try to get as many plastics as possible in an army. I have made peace with metal for skirmish games, and since I own a car to lug those around, I don't mind as much. Resin... I have little experience with it, honestly.
Painting
I love painting. It is my zen moment in a troublesome life, I would say. Again, I learned a bit on my own, listening to people, through workshops, finding what works for me. I like that I can now tailor my painting to my expectations. Large army? I'll keep it simple and washes. Warbands I'll lavish all I can, and sometimes a single model will get the long drawn out watercolour treatment. Mr Zoom is my Achilles' heel. My painting always looks bad on a photo, but it is usually acceptable from 12 inches away.
"Playing"
II'm never going to have kids, so I'll be lucky if I can get my nephew into it, but since we live about an hour apart, that is doubtful. I tried raising a league at my local high school, but it actually got me "fired" from that school so I put the kabash on that plan for a while. At least until I get tenure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/28 04:00:28
Subject: How have your hobby tastes changed?
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Madrak Ironhide
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I used to enjoy the customization aspect of the game until I
realized that GW's customization means poor quality control.
Poor balance works best for a campaign system that assumes
that things will be imbalanced at some point and has built-in
methods to correct the imbalance like Nercromunda.
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