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Just finished looking at my first issue of Warhammer Visions.

I really wanted it to be good.

The entire thing is full page photos of miniatures in miniature environments.
One short descriptive paragraph is on each page, in three languages.
Sample: "Gandalf is an old and powerful wizard"

It took a second look to notice the battle report.
It is certainly not the battle report format I am used to.

I will be canceling my subscription tomorrow.

On a brighter note the new weekly WD was interesting. But maybe thats because I play Dwarves.

I guess GW is doubling down on the "target audience 12 and below" strategy. By the sounds of it, their biggest competitor is now Highlights and Ranger Rick.

Any photos?

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
Any photos?

The whole thing is photos.
No I will not re-post them here.
But a few looked almost exactly like the ones from the last month's WD
Definatly the LOTR stuff.

No editorial content at all? No articles or anything?


Looks like my sub will go bye-bye too then...

Oh dear this is what I was fearing it would be, I'll wait and see my own copy first of course when it arrives, but this doesn't sound good. I might cancel my subscription and just by 3-4 of the weekly WDs (digital) at this rate...

See for yourself but don't say I didn't warn you.

There are actually "articles" in the weekly.

Imagine a battle report with no tactical diagrams and brief, single paragraph (single sentence) descriptions.

(duplicate description in Spanish)
(duplicate description in German)

That's disgusting.

So pretty much GW figured out that it's much cheaper to just have a photographer spend an hour or two with the catalog models than to write a full magazine?

Afraid so.
I really wanted this to be good.
I am sad.

Yeah - not impressed - this seems to nail it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqFbTa5qOI

Is anyone really surprised?

narkuk wrote:
Yeah - not impressed - this seems to nail it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqFbTa5qOI

What....how........why? Just, why? I mean seriously, are the entire management staff at GW suffering oxygen deprivation-induced brain damage from brown-nosing Kirby's backside for too long? Who could possibly think this was a good idea?

So let me get this straight - 4 issues of WD Weekly are the equivalent of one WD Monthly, only twice as expensive and you cannot subscribe it nor is it available outside game stores, while half of Warhammer Visions is pictures of studio models already available on the GW page, only staged, and it's more expensive than WD Monthly despite a smaller format.

... This sucks. I was looking forward to WH Visions, but only if it were to be A4 and with few to no HM paintjobs I already know inside-out from both WD and the webpage. And they even have the nerve to waste a good deal of the magazine on those worthless store listings everybody has been complaining about for years! They simply shifted it from WD to WHV! You can stuff it, GW!

 -DE- wrote:
So let me get this straight - 4 issues of WD Weekly are the equivalent of one WD Monthly, only twice as expensive and you cannot subscribe it nor is it available outside game stores, while half of Warhammer Visions is pictures of studio models already available on the GW page, only staged, and it's more expensive than WD Monthly despite a smaller format.

... This sucks. I was looking forward to WH Visions, but only if it were to be A4 and with few to no HM paintjobs I already know inside-out from both WD and the webpage. And they even have the nerve to waste a good deal of the magazine on those worthless store listings everybody has been complaining about for years! They simply shifted it from WD to WHV! You can stuff it, GW!

More like 90% pictures.

 -DE- wrote:
So let me get this straight - 4 issues of WD Weekly are the equivalent of one WD Monthly, only twice as expensive and you cannot subscribe it nor is it available outside game stores, while half of Warhammer Visions is pictures of studio models already available on the GW page, only staged, and it's more expensive than WD Monthly despite a smaller format.

... This sucks. I was looking forward to WH Visions, but only if it were to be A4 and with few to no HM paintjobs I already know inside-out from both WD and the webpage. And they even have the nerve to waste a good deal of the magazine on those worthless store listings everybody has been complaining about for years! They simply shifted it from WD to WHV! You can stuff it, GW!

I give it a year. Max.

They're obviously aware of the new generation of British short-run mags, of Japanese Magalogues and of high-end customer publications. Then decided they can do it with a bunch of photos left from an earlier shoot, laid out by the work experience.

 snurl wrote:
More like 90% pictures.

What I meant it's 50% Heavy Metal models and 50% reader-submitted models. If it were 10% 0f the former and 90% of the latter, it'd be fine with it. But paying to "marvel" at the exact same Tyranid paintjobs I can get for free on the GW website at higher resolution and with rotating pictures...? Why would I want that?

narkuk wrote:
Yeah - not impressed - this seems to nail it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqFbTa5qOI

It seems to be aimed at kids and the portion of the player base who have ADD - and I can't imagine many hobbyists have that disorder due to the nature of the hobby in general. So what the hell, man . . .

I'm sure as hell not buying that crappy weekly brochure (an obvious attempt at increasing foot traffic in their retail locations - which simply won't work, the magazines aren't nearly interesting enough, and at twice the price now? LOL), and visions is definitely not something I plan to bother with. Can't wait to go in to a GW again and hear the staff pitching the NEW AMAZING FORMATS to people. Should be a good laugh.

 Yodhrin wrote:

narkuk wrote:
Yeah - not impressed - this seems to nail it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqFbTa5qOI

What....how........why? Just, why? I mean seriously, are the entire management staff at GW suffering oxygen deprivation-induced brain damage from brown-nosing Kirby's backside for too long? Who could possibly think this was a good idea?

At least the Store Finder is still in there! But I bet that no one would ever guess that that would be the largest amount of text that the new "magazine" would contain!

I'll have to wait for mine to come through but please someone tell me ... is paint splatter still part of the WH Visions????

<sits with fingers and toes crossed in anticipation of the answer>

There are painting "articles" in both publications.

Just ran across WD 251 in my desk (Dec 2000). They need to make the designers look at it. Its a riot of good stuff cover to cover.

Okay I am convinced they've lost their mind. Who would spend what, $10 per month on a glorified picture book without any content?

Feth, but I miss the old batreps.

So it's the magazine version of Buzzfeed? As in, you take away the pictures and the entire content could fit in one or two pages. (Or are just a paragraph or two in the case of BF.)

So for gamers it's the internet without the opinion, porn and trolls and done poorly.

This is Great News!

I've seen mags like this before at a Magazine warehouse I worked at 15 years ago. They were ridiculously expensive High Fashion mags (£80-100 each) that sold about 50 across the whole of London. I don't expect pick up for W:V to be much better. At least those mags had the occasional topless model, the boobs in W:V would appear to be the editors.

White Dwarf is dead, I'm genuinely disappointed. I had always hoped they would sort it out.

I must admit I'm very disappointed with these reviews. I had really hoped that WH Visions would be something that I could collect to amass a library of inspiration for various painting projects, and hoped it would take advantage of purely focusing on hobbying to bring in more painting/modelling articles, reader-submitted content and to just show something 'different' from the same old studio colour schemes are are literally only 5 clicks away from any computer.

Instead, we get recycled images of the models we've all seen already, underwhelming and uninspiring studio colour schemes and paintjobs from 'Eavy Metal, and generally a lack of content. The only bit that looks remotely like what I wanted and expected was the Golden Demon winners, and I'm not paying £7,50 for those few pages.

It seems that the best place to see truly inspiring, quality painting and conversion remains to be online, which is annoying as it's often difficult to find certain stuff or have it available at the painting desk. I had hoped to collect a library of inspiration I could keep with my painting stuff, instead I have the option of an overpriced collection of not-that-pretty pictures or a weekly cash-grab that's shorter than a newspaper.

No thanks, GW. No thanks.

 notprop wrote:
So for gamers it's the internet without the opinion, porn and trolls and done poorly.

This is Great News!

I've seen mags like this before at a Magazine warehouse I worked at 15 years ago. They were ridiculously expensive High Fashion mags (£80-100 each) that sold about 50 across the whole of London. I don't expect pick up for W:V to be much better. At least those mags had the occasional topless model, the boobs in W:V would appear to be the editors.

White Dwarf is dead, I'm genuinely disappointed. I had always hoped they would sort it out.

Those magazines all had hefty ad revenues - that's why you see so many photo-heavy mags on the news-stands in Wardour Street.

The numbers won't stack up on this publication. That's why I give it a year. And those saying that we're paying merely for 'Eavy Metal paintjobs forgot to point out that Heavy Metal paintjobs ain't what they used to be. These are all point and click applications of the paint, nothing aspirational about them at all. Compare it to the issue I was using recently, number 351, with a fantastic painjob on the AOBR warboss that showed some real individuality, and it's like comparing a horsemeat fastfood burger to a lovingly-crafted steak.

I'm not going to lie. I really didn't expect much from the new WD or the new monthly magazine. But this.... Just unbelievable. GW really had the chance to reinvent themselves with these publications. Yet we get that. Whatever that is. What an epic failure of a launch. Management should all be sacked.

Got my copy today. WH Smiths still have it under the normal code for White Dwarf, so it was still £5.50 instead of £7.50. I dont really have anything to add except thank god I bought Wargames Illustrated to actually have some content to enjoy!

The magazine is shrink wrapped and tied in a paper seal to make it impossible to preview in the store (with good reason - I would have not bothered buying it!)

Just wait until GW gives their rules a similar 'upgrade' There will be a picture of space marines shooting tyranids. Roll dice, remove models. Then there will be a picture with no Tyranids.