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Wraithlord.

Howling Banshees. I still stubbornly take them in almost every game, but they're invariably the first unit to get gunned down/tarpitted and wiped out/blown up with their transport.

Assault marines, or really anything with a jumppack. I love the way they look, and I've got a version of each with a JP. They just always seem to underperform for me.... Plus 1 attack base for an assault unit isn't great.

Where do I begin:
Eldar Pathfinders (If their upgraded price was 20 instead of 25 they'd be field-able for me)
Banshees (They are not as terrible as people make them out to be, but are nowhere near good enough to take over anything else which is just as bad.)
Falcons (Wave Serpents/Fire Prisms are better Tanks; War Walkers are better weapons platforms)

Here, here Falcons! I have none but wish it weren't so.

I painted a BA land speeder took my time and love the model to bits, magnetised all the weapons, but it just dies too easy, if I get first turn I can do something with the typhloon other than that its suicide. May be if I park it at the back and try using it to soften up targets I intend to assault.

@beverley: just give your opponent something better/more scary to shoot at I've had good success with my typhoon speeder so long as I manage to keep it 25" away from everything.

My storm troopers for IG, as well as my tech priest and my priest. All conversions, and well painted model but they won't see the table because they aren't worth it point wise.

You may as well call this, "Pyrovore: The Thread"

I see so many people listing units that I sit and think to myself, "At least they have a design in mind. My poor pyrovore isn't really designed to DO anything."

But...I love the model and will play them every chance I get. In other words every time I play against a new player or want to demo the game for someone.

One of my favorite models of any range is the penitent engine. Few models have such character or encapsulate the world of 40k than the PE. It has a tortured sinner strapped to a whirling death machine. Love it!

Unfortunately it is utterly useless in combat. Open topped walker? Really? I've had luck with massed rifledreds, but PE's are just so useless that they're an utter waste of points. It's not that they won't earn their points back, because they won't, but they won't even live long enough to be a good distraction.

IG heavy weapon squads; I have so many, and love the idea behind them so much, but they suck so hard.

The Hellhound chassis, I want to like like it, I really do, but every time I try fielding one of them it ends up a bullet magnet (which is odd considering the numerous LRBTs and Chimeras I field along with it.)

Marbo. Yeah, I went there. This guy is an auto-include for most IG players but I can't get this s.o.b. to work. He's blown himself up more times than not and when he doesnt, he misses and get's charged the next turn. Unless he's fighting redshirts he get's erased.

Arbiter_Shade wrote:
You may as well call this, "Pyrovore: The Thread"

I see so many people listing units that I sit and think to myself, "At least they have a design in mind. My poor pyrovore isn't really designed to DO anything."

But...I love the model and will play them every chance I get. In other words every time I play against a new player or want to demo the game for someone.

I found a use for Pyrovore models - use them as Biovores.

And they are designed to do something, they're designed to blow up and kill your own guys!

 PrinceRaven wrote:

Arbiter_Shade wrote:
You may as well call this, "Pyrovore: The Thread"

I see so many people listing units that I sit and think to myself, "At least they have a design in mind. My poor pyrovore isn't really designed to DO anything."

But...I love the model and will play them every chance I get. In other words every time I play against a new player or want to demo the game for someone.

I found a use for Pyrovore models - use them as Biovores.

And they are designed to do something, they're designed to blow up and kill your own guys!

I know right? But seriously, break these guys down.

A heavy flamer that has to walk across the board, a single WS3 S5 AP2 attack with acid blood to boot, all in a T4 W3 4+ package. They also explode when they ID...

I almost feel like they were designed to kill Terminators because of the mass AP2 and Terminators will more than likely be IDing them with PF/Thunder Hammer attacks. But...why? It's not like the Tyranids have a lack of AP2 in assault...

Love the look of my sword-n-board Necron Lychguard
Can't really get them to work effectively though.

Tomb Blades - Awesome models. No really clear use. I have used them barebones in a group of 5 as a harassment unit with some success, but I never consider them a to be all that useful beyond that. They share a FOC slot with one of the strongest units in the codex, so it's too bad they got the shaft there.

Steelmage99 wrote:
Love the look of my sword-n-board Necron Lychguard
Can't really get them to work effectively though.

Unfortunately the truth. They're such a neat unit, but I can never really justify them anymore. They sit on the shelf with trazyn and watch.

Let me tell you that as a Nid player Lychguard are actually pretty scary.

 SRSFACE wrote:
My entire Dark Angels army.

My buddy has a Dark Angel army and has been having real trouble dealing with Tyranids and flyers. He finally got fed up and bought a Tau army for allies. I have Dark Angels as well but I never run them as my main force. I like using them as a special ally when I want a twin linked termy drop or when I feel like bringing the Knights in a land raider.


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 AtariAssasin wrote:
Assault marines, or really anything with a jumppack. I love the way they look, and I've got a version of each with a JP. They just always seem to underperform for me.... Plus 1 attack base for an assault unit isn't great.

I would really love to make a army using jump packs, even if its just a fluffly, moderately competent force. I have a jump pack captain, chaplain, and librarian, in addition to vanguard that rarely see combat. A friend of mine recently bought a Tau army and has been looking for a game so I might try and build an assault army

Flash Gitz anyone ?

Most of my favorite IG models in my collection; stormtroopers, wicked 3rd edition metal ogryns, armoured cool as feth sentinels, hell even the LRBT is almost pushing it

thousand sons vindicators and helbrutes.

thousand sons, hellbrutes, defiler, chosen, warp talons, raptors,

U forgot possesed marines. I agree wit slipknotzim

Tau stealth suits, pathfinders and most forgeworld units I have acquired. XV9's have so much firepower but are really quite expensive.

Still, with Tau you can get away with bringing a fun unit and not feel too punished.

Blood Angels:
Death Company, sure they hit hard when they hit but they're too expensive for a marine, especially with all the ap3 or better weapons about.

Furioso Librarian Dreads. Librarian dreads should be awesome, but they're really not.

Nearly all the BA special characters.

Adepta Sororitas: Repentia Squads, really need an effective delivery method.

Pentient Engines. One of the coolest models in the range and you never see them because they are too fragile to ever get into combat.

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I have a squad of 5 beautiful Vanguard Veterans, kitted out in a really fun and fluffy way: sanguinary guard jetpack minus the wings, tau crisis suit shield generators on the shoulderpad to represent a storm shield, bolt pistol, plasma pistol, beakie helmets and tabards. They look SO COOL but they are really not worth the points. They're fun to use though because they offer fluffy and fun mobile plasma... but they're super expensive and not very effective at all. Gorgeous models, though.

Deathstrike its one shot nuke but its not competitive because of bs 3 scatter.

Warp Talons, Defiler, my IG Vostroyan with his fancy banner that will never see any use, the old 80's(?) CSM with a flamer.

j31c3n wrote:I have a squad of 5 beautiful Vanguard Veterans, kitted out in a really fun and fluffy way: sanguinary guard jetpack minus the wings, tau crisis suit shield generators on the shoulderpad to represent a storm shield, bolt pistol, plasma pistol, beakie helmets and tabards. They look SO COOL but they are really not worth the points. They're fun to use though because they offer fluffy and fun mobile plasma... but they're super expensive and not very effective at all. Gorgeous models, though.

I know that pain. I bought a box of vanguard when they first came out, then I saw their codex entry. I have fielded them only a couple of times in that time. This is especially sad because I am a fluffy player, I will field units simply because I love them. Vanguard vets are a different case though, I can make those guys work at all.

For me it has to be Bloodcrushers. I absolutely love the models, and I loved watching them smash through units back in 5th Ed. But with multiple nerfs and a price increase they really aren't even good anymore, let alone great. They're cavalry now, which is nice I guess, but losing a 3+ Armor save, 1 Toughness and Eternal Warrior was really painful.

 ender0656 wrote:
I'll start:

A fully magnetized and painted jump pack librarian, captain, and chaplian. I love these guys but can never figure out how to use them, even in friendly games. A friend of mine recently invested in a Tau army so maybe that offers me some close combat opportunity.

Ironclad dreadnought. I love this model, I modeled him to be a fallen Deathwing Knight (i run vanilla and dark angels) and he looks awesome. I have never really had great luck getting him into combat though.

A scibor Roman guard that I use as a chapter master. He fully painted and I just can get him in combat to make him effective without taking a land raider or a stormraven.

Chaplain Grimaldus. I took so much time painting and modeling this guy. I even added a little waaagh banner to his base. Ive used him a couple of times but hes never really been in combat. He did help out my centurions with his servitors' invul save though.

How about you guys?

I have the same problem with my chapter master. he needs a bike, land raider or a storm raven to get in combat. I have neither atm.

tried drop podding the ironclad and give him 2 hunter killer missiles? It's an expensive suicide unit for sure. but turn one he can get off 3 s8 shots with his HK-missiles and meltagun. That should pop most vehicles. also he's AV 13 so the enemy can in some cases have trouble taking him out on their first turn, and that means he should charge something, preferably another vehicle.

I killed a raider with the enemy HQ and a ravager with this once. and the DE player had 3 ravagers shoot at him on his turn.

My unit that doesn't quite work for me is my Honour guard, I think it's mainly for two reasons. 1. there's only five of them protecting my chapter master. 2. they don't have an assault vehicle. To make these guys work I'd need 10 guys and a freaking land raider.
at which point I feel I could do better with 5 Assault centurions with freakin hurricane bolters in a land raider. it'll be 30 twin linked bolter shots before they charge, and a few twin linked flamers and/or meltaguns as well. fewer attacks in close combat, but with hight str and ap2. but alas, I'm rambling xD