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The Armies of Germany supplement has a thearter selector for DAK. The Armies of books have additional units, special rules and thearter selecters. The basic units are roughly the same as the main rulebook with some point and composition changes. The thearter selecters are alternate force organization charts that are more appropriate for specific thearters and timeframes.

Some shots of my Soviets WIP

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Those are looking really good. Too bad your not around here. I'm sure Strombones would like to throw his Germans at them.

Thank you!! They recently got schooled by some Germans this past Friday

I like the nice contrast between the high and low points. I don't know if I missed it, but who makes these characterful minis?

These Russians are awesome. Makes me want to start collecting some eastern front terrain.

Thank you Strombones!!! gotta love the Soviets! I have altered my army comp to include a KV-1 instead of a T-34 and I added a BA-10.. of course I had to drop a few guys here and there but its still a horde!

Frozenwastes, these are Battlefronts russians in great coats. I think a good alternative is also the Plastic Soldier Company.
I saw a box of their Germans in 15mm that was $26USD for 139 infantry at a shop in Austin, TX .. my tanks are Zvezda btw. its hard to pass up a tank for $4!

Love your stuff, what scale of tanks are you using for your 15mm tanks?

They are all 15mm in scale. I'm not sure what brand of tanks Strombones uses, mine are zvezda

I would prefer 1/72 scale myself, but this still looks like a great alternate way to play.

Yeah 1/72nd or 20mm would be cool as well.. I think the 15mm market for ww2 infantry is better tho.. However I cannot say I have looked much for 1/72nd ww2 infantry

Strombones is using primarily Battlefront miniatures 15mm (flames of war) supplemented with peter pig 15mm and his PzIV is from Plastic Soldier Company's 15mm range. Mine are also Battlefront supplemented with Peter Pig and Plastic Soldier Company.

Check out the Battlegroup Overlord AAR report by Strombones to see more of our collections up close.

I need to get a copy of that so I can make my soviets pull double duty

It's a really great rule set, Bolt Action actually lead us to battlegroup. Force organization is much more realistic and the rules have more depth IMHO.

Masses more WW2 stuff available in 20mm and 1/72 than 15mm...

Big P wrote:
Masses more WW2 stuff available in 20mm and 1/72 than 15mm...

Yep, plastic soldier do a huge range of ww2 stuff at great prices.

I bought a box of the 15mm Plastic Soldier Company Germans and a box of Soviets around when Bolt Action came out. I also got a few Zvezda tanks and a couple Flames of War tanks for things not available in plastic. The price on the PSC infantry was outstanding, but overall I would rate them as being uninspired. The detail is really shallow. I've partially painted half the Germans but I'm totally not into them and thinking of selling them and switching to another manufacturer. They're perfectly serviceable and there's nothing actually wrong with them, but I want something more like Peter Pig. Or I might switch to 1/72.

The plastic infantry that battlefront is putting out is very nice but a bit pricey, it also needs to be supplemented a bit as there are no BARs available in the US stuff and it's really made for Flame of war's basing method.

I decided to keep my PSC Infantry.

I went to a nearby hobby shop (think model tanks, cars, dinosaurs and science toys) to get my 1/32 (54mm) horse & musket project started. At their counter they had all the 1/100 Zvezda WW2 kits ready for impulse buys. I got some trucks and a KV2 and a Stug. While I was thinking of selling my PSC Infantry and getting some Peter Pig or Battlefront, I do already have them. And they are primed and ready for painting. So I'm going to keep them, paint them and get playing. I just got the PDF version of Chain of Command as well.

When I got home I realized I never actually bought my 18th century figures. I was so excited to see all the 1/100 tank kits that I just left them off to the right of the cash register and they never got rung up. And then I left.

But I have tanks!

Haha yeah man. 5 dollar tanks in this day and age can't be passed up! I've looked thru chain of command. I've never played but t looks pretty fun, and I'm pretty sure it can accommodate 1/100th. I'm interested in what your thoughts are on the rules I you ever get it up and running.

You guys talked me into buying the Open Fire! Starter set. I got a lot of stuff on my plate ( BA army, Hail Caesar Starter Set, Bolt Action Starter Set). Hopefully these will be a quicker paint job. Looks great.

I have soviets and germans, but once they're painted, I'm going to get the new Battlefront plastic platoons with infantry and transports. Though Open Fire! certainly looks interesting in terms of a good amount of nice 15mm plastics in one go.

I'm finding that pretty much every 28mm skirmish game can just be used substituting 15mm with little or not changes. Usually weapon ranges look a lot better with 15mm miniatures on the table.

I've got the battlefront plastic armored infantry platoon and can vouche that they are indeed very nice. They are the same poses of the plastic paratroopers from open fire but wearing infantry uniforms. My only complaint is that they have no BARs.

Peter Pig makes packs of 8 BAR armed troopers in 3 poses:



http://www.peterpig.co.uk/us.htm

Shipping starts at £4.50 so if I ever order from them, I'll probably get a decent variety of stuff. It's a long way away though, as I still have 200+ infantry and 10+ vehicles to paint for my germans and soviets.

 frozenwastes wrote:
I have soviets and germans, but once they're painted, I'm going to get the new Battlefront plastic platoons with infantry and transports. Though Open Fire! certainly looks interesting in terms of a good amount of nice 15mm plastics in one go.

I'm finding that pretty much every 28mm skirmish game can just be used substituting 15mm with little or not changes. Usually weapon ranges look a lot better with 15mm miniatures on the table.

I think dj0311 has a few of those Peter pig BAR guys. He gave me a few assault rifle grenadiers from PP as well and man do they look fantastic.
I've always been a plastics over metals guy, but some of these metals companies are changing my mind on this.

I still gotta say however that Battlefront's plastic infantry are hard to beat. There are a few people that sell open fire! Sprues as singles on eBay if you don't want the whole box. I think its from Pirate Pat's Games.

I gotta agree with the 15mm conversion. even though we play Battlegroup exclusively at the moment, which is designed for 15 to 20, I think converting any 28 mm game is really easy. Will be looking Foward to see how you apply Chain of Command to 15.

 Strombones wrote:
I think dj0311 has a few of those Peter pig BAR guys. He gave me a few assault rifle grenadiers from PP as well and man do they look fantastic.
I've always been a plastics over metals guy, but some of these metals companies are changing my mind on this.

I have a few Flames of War things I got on sale here and there and definitely prefer my plastic vehicles to their resin and metal ones, but for the infantry, I'm open to both.

I still gotta say however that Battlefront's plastic infantry are hard to beat. There are a few people that sell open fire! Sprues as singles on eBay if you don't want the whole box. I think its from Pirate Pat's Games.

I did some searching around. Looks like the people on eBay breaking up the FoW starter will only ship to Canada using priority. Not really interested in paying $15 to ship a single tank.

I think I remember reading somewhere that Armoured Infantry units didn't use the BAR. The 30cals fulfilled the role the BAR did in rifle companies.

I think you're right about that. The lack of BARs though means you need to grab some for when you do them as regular infantry.

The 1943 field manual lists the standard M3A1 as carrying 12 guys, 1 SMG the rest garands, no BAR. In 1945, one BAR was added.