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 Snrub wrote:
Oh yeah, I should start playing dakka bingo too.

What do we get if we win?

MODhood.

Awww yiss...


I'd make the worst MOD ever. I'd go completely power crazy before my first day was done.

Am not a commie....I just nipped it at the bud from WA

 djones520 wrote:

 Goliath wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
There is not a sickness in our society.
Just because the media sensationalizes something to the point where we hear about it everyday, doesn't mean it is actually rampant.

Just because there's only a small number of mentally ill people killing other people doesn't affect the fact that a large number of deaths due to guns and other methods are due to mental illness.

Your point? I was addressing his comment that our society is sick, which is bogus. I'm completely in the camp that the best way to stop "mass shootings" is by expanding mental healthcare capabilities, so we can identify these people earlier.

Oh, my apologies. From the way I read your post it came across as you denying that there was any issue with mental illness in the US, which (obviously) seemed slightly nonsensical to me.

I think we might have read his word "there is a sickness in our society" differently. I read it as him saying that there is an issue with mental health, but I get the feeling that you read it as something along the lines of him saying that there is a major problem with mass shootings?

 d-usa wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
Oh yeah, I should start playing dakka bingo too.

What do we get if we win?

MODhood.

Like becoming a demon prince, so to speak.

Now here is a fun exercise:

Which god of chaos is each MOD alligned with?

 d-usa wrote:
Now here is a fun exercise:

Which god of chaos is each MOD alligned with?

In that direction of thought lies madness...

 Kilkrazy wrote:
No, better load up on booze and cars, they are much more deadly than guns.

If only he was alcoholic, this would have never happened?

 Goliath wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Goliath wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
There is not a sickness in our society.
Just because the media sensationalizes something to the point where we hear about it everyday, doesn't mean it is actually rampant.

Just because there's only a small number of mentally ill people killing other people doesn't affect the fact that a large number of deaths due to guns and other methods are due to mental illness.

Yes, that's how I meant it.
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Your point? I was addressing his comment that our society is sick, which is bogus. I'm completely in the camp that the best way to stop "mass shootings" is by expanding mental healthcare capabilities, so we can identify these people earlier.

Oh, my apologies. From the way I read your post it came across as you denying that there was any issue with mental illness in the US, which (obviously) seemed slightly nonsensical to me.

I think we might have read his word "there is a sickness in our society" differently. I read it as him saying that there is an issue with mental health, but I get the feeling that you read it as something along the lines of him saying that there is a major problem with mass shootings?

booze, drugs, car, Justin Beiber....all in one...good start?

 Kilkrazy wrote:
That's because he's concerned about guns.

Americans have already tried to get rid of booze and failed. Try something that's worked in lots of other countries.

Getting rid of guns won't work because most Americans who have guns don't actually want to get rid of their guns. And a lot of Americans have guns.

How about reinforcing the current laws on the book and not add more laws to the issue where later on they fall into the same situation of not being enforced

 d-usa wrote:
Now here is a fun exercise:

Which god of chaos is each MOD alligned with?

hahahaha! You have so much to learn, young one. The question should be, "Which Mod of Dakka is each of the Chaos gods aligned with?"

 Jihadin wrote:
How about reinforcing the current laws on the book and not add more laws to the issue where later on they fall into the same situation of not being enforced

I'm sorry Jihadin, but that suggestion is far too reasonable and straightforward. You're going to have to come up with something a bit more convoluted and impractical.

We can go back to swords, muskets, and hand cannons...time the Constitution was written...

 Jihadin wrote:
We can go back to swords, muskets, and hand cannons...time the Constitution was written...

As long as the government won't give me gak about my mounting cannons on my fishing boat.

How big a fishing boat and how many ton cannons we talking here?....Letter Of Marquis be in effect right?...Legal piracy...

 Jihadin wrote:
How big a fishing boat and how many ton cannons we talking here?....Letter Of Marquis be in effect right?...Legal piracy...

Just a 14 footer. Won't be very big cannons.

 Jihadin wrote:

5,000 kids(21 and under) are killed yearly and another 186,000 are admitted to emergency rooms due to alcohol related causes, far more than those kids that are killed or injured by guns yearly.

WTH!?!?!?!?!

OMG I was in charge of some child soldiers!?!?!?!


I prefer "Alcohol related incident" because "Alcohol related causes" sounds to lame.

My battalion led all of USAREUR in alcohol related incidents for four months in a row!

 Kilkrazy wrote:
That's because he's concerned about guns.

Americans have already tried to get rid of booze and failed. Try something that's worked in lots of other countries.

The third most prevalent cause of death in the USA is iatrogenic reasons. Do you advocate getting rid of doctors?

Getting rid of guns in the US would be even less successful than Prohibition was.

It only works in other countries because they never had anywhere near as many guns as we do.

 Grey Templar wrote:

It only works in other countries because they never had anywhere near as many guns as we do.

We have a 237 year history of being the Oprah of firearms

Dang Bromsy....had you own golden Blotter Report eh

So does that figure for child deaths;
1) Include accidents?
2) Include suicides?
3) Include illegal firearms?

Suicides always account for a large portion of these gun violence numbers.
Here's a link about the number of suicides by guns. Take those out and you'll see "gun violence" figures drop dramatically. While you're at it, take out drug, gang and mass shootings and you'll see a number that's about average with other countries out there that have stricter gun laws.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/05/24/suicides-account-for-most-gun-deaths/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/05/24/suicides-account-for-most-gun-deaths/

Suicide should be its own separate category. It's not a violent crime, just self-destructive behavior at its most, for lack of a better word, pure.

Are suicides with knives included in knife violence perchance?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Suicide should be its own separate category. It's not a violent crime, just self-destructive behavior at its most, for lack of a better word, pure.

Are suicides with knives included in knife violence perchance?

With firearm related statistics it is not uncommon to have all deaths by firearm listed under the one category - including suicide, misadventures, and deaths from unlawfully held firearms

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
So does that figure for child deaths;
1) Include accidents?
2) Include suicides?
3) Include illegal firearms?

You forgot about gang related crimes. I'm talking being shot by either gang members or by police.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
misadventures

What the smeg is a "misadventure"? Sounds like some gun related sex play going on here.

For example if you go up on a hill to do target shooting and face towards a village, and you set up your target against a bale of hay, which rifle bullets go straight through.

A misadventure may occur to someone in the village.

Ah... So basically just getting the short end of the stick from some incompetent twit?