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Crystal guys look kind of cool.

More new/ unique races is always a plus.

Those scythe arms could be fun to hack away at Rebs, Plague, and Marauders with after the game ends and the crystal dudes end up stuck at a Plague outbreak.

Some frontpage updates are in progress.

Should be a new update out soon and pledge levels for original dreadball stuff.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Some frontpage updates are in progress.

Should be a new update out soon and pledge levels for original dreadball stuff.

The update is there... it's just on the original DB Kickstarter

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/dreadball-the-futuristic-sports-game/posts/760757?ref=dash

They've also added the entire Dreadball range into the Xtreme KS as add-ons.

40% discount + free shipping on everything.

If I only I hadn't bought everything they just added at retail ; p

"Gabe" MVP and the other KS 1 exclusives now... ; ) I can only hope.

Hmm - I wonder if those original DB teams will have proper packaging. Very attractive if that's the case! I also like the "add $5 and we'll ship as soon as you've completed the survey" option - gives people a chance to play with a fair chunk of stuff before the KS delivery date.

Of course, there might be some mild controversy about selling existing product via Kickstarter, but I'm certainly not complaining!

Kickstarter can and have asked creators to remove products not directly funded by the project itself but it's a bit hit and miss and most seem to get away with it (or KS ignore it as they are getting 5%) and even those that have to remove them just put the extras back into the pledge manager that KS has no control over anyway ( throw in an extra $50 or so and we'll give you something to spend it on later nudge nudge wink wink)

Bioptic wrote:
Hmm - I wonder if those original DB teams will have proper packaging. Very attractive if that's the case! I also like the "add $5 and we'll ship as soon as you've completed the survey" option - gives people a chance to play with a fair chunk of stuff before the KS delivery date.

Of course, there might be some mild controversy about selling existing product via Kickstarter, but I'm certainly not complaining!

If you buy the game it will come in a box

but individual team I would suspect will be in plastic bags not the Manitc video case style packaging

Those cases are great. I know I've said it before but I stand by it. Just need to find a good thickness and density of foam to convert the wider boxes to fit 25 mm minis.

Original db teams ad discount? Damn, they may keep more of my money than I thought... get the digital compendium and teams I like as opposed to default for a fancy build your own starter set... cunning fiends!

Crystal dudes look cool too.

 GrimDork wrote:
Those cases are great. I know I've said it before but I stand by it. Just need to find a good thickness and density of foam to convert the wider boxes to fit 25 mm minis.

Original db teams ad discount? Damn, they may keep more of my money than I thought... get the digital compendium and teams I like as opposed to default for a fancy build your own starter set... cunning fiends!

Crystal dudes look cool too.

The crystal guys are my least favorite of the bunch. That being said, I don't hate them, its just robots are cooler than rocks... every single time.

Also, convicts are still my favorite team by far, though I think I'm in the minority there.

Artwork for the crystal guys look fun enough.

But it's definitely something I need to see as a miniature before I'd ever consider pledging.

Rock-men-miniatures... haven't seen a good one yet. And with some translucent plastic on top? That's rather far "experimental" territory for me.

The "get-better-the-closer-they-stick-together" seems like it has few downsides, as "bashy" DreadBall teams tend to cluster together anyhow. Add a non-Crystal-Striker for ball-fetching-duty and you're gold

I still have no reply about the Mars Attacks pledge manager email confirmations... could someone who has pledged on this one ask them to update that campaign regarding it?

The (already pushed back) deadline to finalize pledges is coming up, and without their confirmation email system apparently working, a lot of us are left wondering what to do........ and it seems Mantic pays attention to questions / comments on their current KS better than past ones :-/

Something like this in the comments would be grand:

"Could you please update your Mars Attacks campaign, which still has the pledge manager email confirmations not going through??"

Cheers in advance guys!

 RiTides wrote:
I still have no reply about the Mars Attacks pledge manager email confirmations... could someone who has pledged on this one ask them to update that campaign regarding it?

The (already pushed back) deadline to finalize pledges is coming up, and without their confirmation email system apparently working, a lot of us are left wondering what to do........ and it seems Mantic pays attention to questions / comments on their current KS better than past ones :-/

Something like this in the comments would be grand:

"Could you please update your Mars Attacks campaign, which still has the pledge manager email confirmations not going through??"

Cheers in advance guys!

Changed my pledge today about 4hours ago, got my confirmation email a few minutes later. 1st time I submitted I never got one guess it was a quiet time on their server.

maybe worth re submitting?

Well at least DBX won't be using Google docs they mentioned today that they've finally invested in a proper pledge manager. Took me 4 submissions before I finally got a Mars Attacks confirmation.

 Zweischneid wrote:

I still fail to see how those extra minis are anything but dead weight.

They add a great deal of "perceived value" for little additional cost on Mantic's end. Especially if you don't break it down, like we do here and just "count the minis" - as many do....

 edlowe wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
I still have no reply about the Mars Attacks pledge manager email confirmations... could someone who has pledged on this one ask them to update that campaign regarding it?

The (already pushed back) deadline to finalize pledges is coming up, and without their confirmation email system apparently working, a lot of us are left wondering what to do........ and it seems Mantic pays attention to questions / comments on their current KS better than past ones :-/

Something like this in the comments would be grand:

"Could you please update your Mars Attacks campaign, which still has the pledge manager email confirmations not going through??"

Cheers in advance guys!

Changed my pledge today about 4hours ago, got my confirmation email a few minutes later. 1st time I submitted I never got one guess it was a quiet time on their server.

maybe worth re submitting?

Thanks, I'll try that

 scarletsquig wrote:
They've also added the entire Dreadball range into the Xtreme KS as add-ons.
40% discount + free shipping on everything.

 Yonan wrote:
If I only I hadn't bought everything they just added at retail ; p

The difference will be getting them now (via retail, as you just did) and getting them in November at best, or in a year's time in Feb 2015 when they finally send you your missing stuff...

Speaking of missing stuff - I've just gotten my Loka replacement river horse. I just asked for two halves of the body to be resent - ones that weren't warped casts so I could assemble them easily. They sent me an entire replacement model, which is - naturally - just as fething warped.

I also just got my missing Dreadball stuff. (both little parcels arrived together). It's the 28th of Feb, 2014.


Actually, getting these little baggies of figures in hand now makes it much easier to resist going any bigger on my existing pledge, and if it comes to it, easier to pull my pledge. Since these figures are going right into a box with the rest of them, probably never to be painted or used in any way...

 scarletsquig wrote:
Actually, thinking about it, Rampage + 8 teams ($270) might end up being more tempting than Frenzy.. you still get all 12 teams, just without the doubling up and a few extras.

Thanks for doing that math, Squig; Rampage + 8 teams at $270 does sound more appealing. Particularly when, with that formula, you can include some original Dreadball teams in your total.

Now that they've confirmed they don't want to do Deadzone cards for any of the DBX models, I could actually contemplate doing a very small order on this one. They still have plenty of time to win me over to DBX on its own merits, or to make Rampage a can't miss gem of a pledge, but a Sphyr team confined to DBX is less tempting to me than one I could proxy into Deadzone.

Yes, I could create my own rules and swap weapons into their hands. But if I'm patient, chances are good that Mantic will do all of that for me whenever they launch Deadzone 2. And the (nothing confirmed) possibility that they might launch even a "small" Deadzone expansion later this year makes me doubly hesitant to go in big now.

Getting the original Dreadball for $50 is a very nice deal, though. I could almost see picking that up instead of Rampage and adding the teams I'm most interested in for both ranges.

Yeah I'm not miffed I bought them, I've loved me the hell out of the Dreadball I bought.

Really need a counter in my sig I can increment for that Aza ; p

Having read over the rules for DBX you may actually want those extra players over the standard 8. Yes you only start with a few on the pitch but you can bring extra on with your team actions, and their is no limit to the maximum you can have on the pitch at any time.

Plus with the injury system in this version where players are not removed from the pitch when they are injured but sit their until they recover I can see a much higher player count needed than in standard DB.

 RiTides wrote:
The (already pushed back) deadline to finalize pledges is coming up

What was the new deadline?

I don't like the focus on original dreadball the KS has become. It is nice of Mantic to offer it all at a discount as part of this KS, but I would like to see them showing NEW stuff for the new game instead of spending a lot of time with original dread ball bundles and questions about those bundles.




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 Baragash wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
The (already pushed back) deadline to finalize pledges is coming up

What was the new deadline?

2 March.

 CptJake wrote:
I don't like the focus on original dreadball the KS has become. It is nice of Mantic to offer it all at a discount as part of this KS, but I would like to see them showing NEW stuff for the new game instead of spending a lot of time with original dread ball bundles and questions about those bundles.

This last update was damage control. Mantic screwed up by trying to tie stretch goals to dates instead of to funding levels, so the pitiful offerings for a $350k campaign came back to bite them. If they weren't willing to put the Robots forwards, they had to obtain some alternate funding, and that meant offering their back catalogue for sale at a discount.

I get that, and it did help put the daily total a bit higher.

But I would like to see them now inject info about new stuff instead of the old. All the original dreadball stuff doesn't make my Frenzy pledge any more attractive. Starting to preview what they intend to fill it with and expending more resources on highlighting the new game instead of rehashing the original would be nice.

I know KS comments sections tend to be drivel anyway, but all I've seen from Mantic in the comments recently has been explaining the dread ball add ons and answering questions about adding in more original dread ball stuff. Granted I don't keep up with the comments section and tend to just scan them a couple times a day so I may have missed some Big News about DreadBall Xtreme.

 CptJake wrote:
I get that, and it did help put the daily total a bit higher.

But I would like to see them now inject info about new stuff instead of the old. All the original dreadball stuff doesn't make my Frenzy pledge any more attractive. Starting to preview what they intend to fill it with and expending more resources on highlighting the new game instead of rehashing the original would be nice.

I know KS comments sections tend to be drivel anyway, but all I've seen from Mantic in the comments recently has been explaining the dread ball add ons and answering questions about adding in more original dread ball stuff. Granted I don't keep up with the comments section and tend to just scan them a couple times a day so I may have missed some Big News about DreadBall Xtreme.

I check them pretty regularly. Besides the announcement of the crystal guys, there hasn't been any more real info.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
I don't like the focus on original dreadball the KS has become. It is nice of Mantic to offer it all at a discount as part of this KS, but I would like to see them showing NEW stuff for the new game instead of spending a lot of time with original dread ball bundles and questions about those bundles.

This last update was damage control. Mantic screwed up by trying to tie stretch goals to dates instead of to funding levels, so the pitiful offerings for a $350k campaign came back to bite them. If they weren't willing to put the Robots forwards, they had to obtain some alternate funding, and that meant offering their back catalogue for sale at a discount.

Tied to dates? What? Can I have some of that angry stuff you're smoking?

Sems much more likely that they've decided to change their stretch goal size strategy because they found out the impetus wasn't carrying the large gap anymore, and are using the existing Dreadball stuff to carry them over the $350k line before adjusting, rather than having to change the already announced goal. My guess is that they're chopping the team boosters into smaller chunks of stretch funds to keep things rolling.

I don't think the teams were tied to dates, but I do think Mantic may have made a little mistake when they estimated the funding curve on this one relative to their stretch goals. I'll give it a couple of days more, but I think that the $150 level is gonna end up the better value if it continues like this and I'll let someone else take the risk with my EB Frenzy.

Prove me wrong Mantic, come on.

They will certainly adjust after we hit 350k. I imagine we're gonna see another team at a much lower stretch, as well as some other exciting anouncements to keep this moving along. They have hinted pretty strongly that they have a few more tricks up their sleeve.

I will say this though. If they drop another insipid fluff filler goal instead of throwing up the next team or they keep radio silence until the desperation goal of the season 4 book is met I will not be a happy camper with this foot dragging campaign.

I'm sure they'll try to readjust things,

but the big question is what is the minimum funding level they can afford to throw in enough content to make Frenzy a break even proposition for them

If they don't get that far ($500K at a guess based on previous campaigns), bad stuff will happen