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It is a schizophrenic hive mind.

 heartserenade wrote:
If one person says Dakka is not a hivemind and another person says that it is a hivemind.... don't you think that's the very definition of it being NOT a hivemind? Like, people have different opinions?

Don't be silly. If your opinion is contrary to GW's then you are just a mindless hater and by that very definition you are part of a hive mind.

On the other hand, if your opinion is like DarknessEternal's then you are a shining example of individuality!

 heartserenade wrote:
If one person says Dakka is not a hivemind and another person says that it is a hivemind.... don't you think that's the very definition of it being NOT a hivemind? Like, people have different opinions?

Pretty much this. Dakka has plenty of posters on both sides of the fence.

The fact that Dakka has some individual posters who are largely negative about what GW does, even if they're really vocal about it, does not make Dakka anti-GW. It just makes Dakka a place with some members who are anti-GW.

Thing is most people are not anti GW as much as they are Anti what GW is doing atm. Many people who are vocally anti gw will give GW props when they feel it is due. There is just less and less worth praising with GW atm.

 insaniak wrote:

 heartserenade wrote:
If one person says Dakka is not a hivemind and another person says that it is a hivemind.... don't you think that's the very definition of it being NOT a hivemind? Like, people have different opinions?

Pretty much this. Dakka has plenty of posters on both sides of the fence.

The fact that Dakka has some individual posters who are largely negative about what GW does, even if they're really vocal about it, does not make Dakka anti-GW. It just makes Dakka a place with some members who are anti-GW.

This is fundamentally true, Dakka is a community and consists of an enormous amount of diversity.
However, "Dakka" and every other community out there, internet or otherwise, is going to be viewed as single unit because of that very diversity. It is impossible to list the number of different nuanced opinions in Dakka, so it is easier to make a sweeping generalization and apply it to the "Dakka collective."

This generalization, at least in the eyes of GW, is going to be defined by those that disagree most directly with the opinions (dare I say values?) of GW. This is in part because it is far less common to say "hey, good job" when something is done right. What is done right is largely ignored (because it is expected of a company) and so the complaints dominate.

GW employees therefore are going by a generalized view of Dakka that is dominated by those views that are most strongly opposed to theirs.

 heartserenade wrote:
If one person says Dakka is not a hivemind and another person says that it is a hivemind.... don't you think that's the very definition of it being NOT a hivemind? Like, people have different opinions?

I think some people will shift towards what they think is the majority opinion- a perceived hivemind, or mob mentality, or whatever you want to call it. Either way, I don't think dakka is a single hivemind of GW-hate; it is quite the opposite.

 skink007 wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 heartserenade wrote:
If one person says Dakka is not a hivemind and another person says that it is a hivemind.... don't you think that's the very definition of it being NOT a hivemind? Like, people have different opinions?

Pretty much this. Dakka has plenty of posters on both sides of the fence.

The fact that Dakka has some individual posters who are largely negative about what GW does, even if they're really vocal about it, does not make Dakka anti-GW. It just makes Dakka a place with some members who are anti-GW.

This is fundamentally true, Dakka is a community and consists of an enormous amount of diversity.
However, "Dakka" and every other community out there, internet or otherwise, is going to be viewed as single unit because of that very diversity. It is impossible to list the number of different nuanced opinions in Dakka, so it is easier to make a sweeping generalization and apply it to the "Dakka collective."

This generalization, at least in the eyes of GW, is going to be defined by those that disagree most directly with the opinions (dare I say values?) of GW. This is in part because it is far less common to say "hey, good job" when something is done right. What is done right is largely ignored (because it is expected of a company) and so the complaints dominate.

GW employees therefore are going by a generalized view of Dakka that is dominated by those views that are most strongly opposed to theirs.

I agree completely, think you have got it in a nut-shell there.

There were lots of positive comments about the Knights release - those negative comments tended to be about the price, as well as the need to purchase the rules for it separately - but by and large I think the net community was pretty complementary over what is a cool looking model. But, recently the Taurox is revealed - aesthetically the general consensus is probably '4/10', you read lots of 'Tonka Truck' type comments - people comment what they think of it.

But, a lot of issues are less subjective than that - price rises, quality control issues, trading bans, heavy-handed IP litigation; there is only ever going to be one form of reaction to that kind of stuff when viewed from a customer perspective. People will give credit where it is due, and visa versa. No doubt there is a certain amount of 'echo chamber', but I think the vast majority of regular posters here would not just repeat a comment just to fit in with a consensus opinion.

 carlos13th wrote:
Thing is most people are not anti GW as much as they are Anti what GW is doing atm. Many people who are vocally anti gw will give GW props when they feel it is due. There is just less and less worth praising with GW atm.

Yeah, exactly what this guy said.

 Saevus wrote:
I look through Warseer and Bolter and Chainsword (or is it Chainsword and bolter? Screw them, they hate xenos over there) and I don't see nearly as much venom flowing.

Well of course you don't. Badmouth GW over at Whineseer and you'll very quickly find yourself coming over to Dakka as you won't be able to post over there. They even try to enforce GW's secrecy. They're like GW's own Internet cheer squad.

And speaking of a GW cheer squad...

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Snuh? Dakka IS a hivemind.

And yet you're still here. Fighting the good fight are we Darkness, or just keeping on keeping on?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I work in the telecommunications industry,

I thought your job was writing cool stuff for RPG in the 40k settings !

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You're living up to your user title.

What ? Nazi war forced prostitutes, in my DakkaDakka ?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I work in the telecommunications industry,

I thought your job was writing cool stuff for RPG in the 40k settings !

That's his vocation...

Oh no guys you're all agreeing that we are not a hivemind! It must surely mean that we are a hivemind! By Jove!

By Jove!

Brian: Look, you've got it all wrong! You don't NEED to follow ME, You don't NEED to follow ANYBODY! You've got to think for your selves! You're ALL individuals!

The Crowd: Yes! We're all individuals!

Brian: You're all different!

The Crowd: Yes, we ARE all different!

Man in crowd: I'm not...

The Crowd: Sch!