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Secondly. Before a date, or hell even an encounter with the opposite sex, talk to yourself out loud, and do a run down of what you should say or ask. That way you can actually hear what your answers and questions are, you'd be surprised at how cool or clever it sounds in your head, yet out loud sounds absolutely terrible.
That's also my secret for job interviews as well. I always nail em. Interviews and women but serious out loud..... you have to say it out loud.
EDIT - Ninja'd= Don't think so my man. Pretty convinced that she's a girl.
I heard something interesting today, was in class speaking to one of my mates from the course and she was talking about some weird guy she had met once.
To describe him she used the phrase "looks like on of those guys you get in that weird shop"... I knew instantly what shop she was talking about at this point "the one with War-something?". I responded "Do you mean Gamesworkshop down next to Central? I take it he looked unwashed?". A damning "Uh huh" was the response. She showed me his picture and he looked like a skinny, balding viking wearing a T-shirt a few sizes too big for him. "He's such a creep" was her description.
The initial revelation sent chills down my spine. Thankfully my dissimilarity to him made me feel better. It also made me think of this thread.
I don't think there has been a "what not to wear" part of the advice and I don't think it's needed, but there are some things that you let go off. Those baggy jeans and massive t-shirts and hoodies that you had in your Mosher phase... let them go. It is not a good look.
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Medium of Death wrote: EDIT - Ninja'd= Don't think so my man. Pretty convinced that she's a girl.
I heard something interesting today, was in class speaking to one of my mates from the course and she was talking about some weird guy she had met once.
To describe him she used the phrase "looks like on of those guys you get in that weird shop"... I knew instantly what shop she was talking about at this point "the one with War-something?". I responded "Do you mean Gamesworkshop down next to Central? I take it he looked unwashed?". A damning "Uh huh" was the response. She showed me his picture and he looked like a skinny, balding viking wearing a T-shirt a few sizes too big for him. "He's such a creep" was her description.
The initial revelation sent chills down my spine. Thankfully my dissimilarity to him made me feel better. It also made me think of this thread.
I don't think there has been a "what not to wear" part of the advice and I don't think it's needed, but there are some things that you let go off. Those baggy jeans and massive t-shirts and hoodies that you had in your Mosher phase... let them go. It is not a good look.
Its one of those stereotype things though isn't it. If you were to explain wargaming and the typical age groups that participate it, people who do not know much about it will assume its full of "large sweaty men who are lonely and sad", which is just stupid.
Glaiceana wrote: I mean unless you were looking at my brother in that picture you linked xD Maybe my deviant Art profile pic is a little clearer.
Yeah, you look like a girl in your deviant art profile pic but you looked like a guy with long hair to me in the "Show Yourself" thread sorry for any offense.
Medium of Death wrote: EDIT - Ninja'd= Don't think so my man. Pretty convinced that she's a girl.
I heard something interesting today, was in class speaking to one of my mates from the course and she was talking about some weird guy she had met once.
To describe him she used the phrase "looks like on of those guys you get in that weird shop"... I knew instantly what shop she was talking about at this point "the one with War-something?". I responded "Do you mean Gamesworkshop down next to Central? I take it he looked unwashed?". A damning "Uh huh" was the response. She showed me his picture and he looked like a skinny, balding viking wearing a T-shirt a few sizes too big for him. "He's such a creep" was her description.
The initial revelation sent chills down my spine. Thankfully my dissimilarity to him made me feel better. It also made me think of this thread.
I don't think there has been a "what not to wear" part of the advice and I don't think it's needed, but there are some things that you let go off. Those baggy jeans and massive t-shirts and hoodies that you had in your Mosher phase... let them go. It is not a good look.
Its one of those stereotype things though isn't it. If you were to explain wargaming and the typical age groups that participate it, people who do not know much about it will assume its full of "large sweaty men who are lonely and sad", which is just stupid.
That's exactly how my family views it.
Luckily I have a figure that makes sticks jealous of how thin I am, and I regularly wash - it's just the 'lonely' and 'sad' bits that apply to me.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
I would have assumed that Alby would have done some basic research before asking her out on a date... I think he's got it covered.
Anyway, I had a bit of an epiphany on the drive back from a concert at 1AM, I was listening to Mr. Jones by The Counting Crows and realized... I don't think I really want a girlfriend or a relationship or any of that gak... what I want is worship and adoration and the knowledge that I have that sort of power over someone else... hows that for fethed up?
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CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
chaos0xomega wrote: I would have assumed that Alby would have done some basic research before asking her out on a date... I think he's got it covered.
Anyway, I had a bit of an epiphany on the drive back from a concert at 1AM, I was listening to Mr. Jones by The Counting Crows and realized... I don't think I really want a girlfriend or a relationship or any of that gak... what I want is worship and adoration and the knowledge that I have that sort of power over someone else... hows that for fethed up?
So, BDSM?
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Nope, not at all, been there, done that, definitely not my scene.
Its funny too... my usual feelings towards submissives in that scene is that they are weak-minded individuals and sad excuses for human beings, it's not only a turnoff but i'm outright disgusted by it, but thats a different topic.
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CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
Funny without "catering", I like the making fun of a person without doing it too much, draws them in pretty quick with an occasional backhanded compliment.
Talk to them from the side, turning to fully face them conveys being needy.
Hit on the second best looking girl if in a group: Drives the pretty one crazy and makes the runner up happy to no end (think I saw this in a movie once but still works... strange).
Yes confidence works, yes take up space and do those power stances everyone talks about, slouching gets you nowhere.
Asking out on a date needs to be casual.
I was surprised when asking out to dinner and a movie (gah! very traditional...) I added "Since I asked, I have to buy.", Oddly that took the pressure off for those who do not like feeling "obligated".
Smell:
Spoiler:
Clean: some say baby powder makes them crazy, jury is still out on this one.
Avoid the floral whatever your mom would buy.
Look for stuff from about her age plus 10 years ago, for some sick reason girls seem to like guys smelling like their dad...
Brush your teeth and scrape your tongue, yelling over the loud music tends to give them a full dose of your breath...
Look:
Spoiler:
Use freaking hair product and again avoid smelly stuff, get your hair how you want it and get it to stay there.
Hate to say, the clean shaven look is still preferred, they imagine the stubble giving beard burn and find facial hair "intimidating". Buddy of mine does have a big moustache but is tall and looks like a plainclothes cop but his teeth are straight and white and when he smiles the women flock = bad boy look but gives safe vibes.
Whatever you wear make sure it all works together and it fits properly. The women want to know what your backside looks like and baggy does not work. "Well dressed" works almost as well as "expensive".
Go see some tailor and let them have a go at figuring out something for you: they know how to make you look two sizes smaller or bigger depending on your needs.
Extra stuff:
Spoiler:
Have something, anything that makes you different than the rest of the crowd of guys around. Accents was a good point, big hair, funky shirt you cannot find anywhere, a pin on your jacket... something that they can look at and ask about or comment on. Makes a great opener and the conversation is easy.
Get to know the staff at the places you are at or the places you take her: people greeting you by name makes you socially important and shows you are a "great guy" since other people seem to think so. You can always go there a day or two before and tip heavily and talk to them for a bit.
Find the easiest way possible to get your contact information to the person. Get bump or whatever installed on your smartphone or something easy, or use a good old card with some trumped-up reason to have one. Good excuse to have something to write on for her number (or yes, enter in the smart phone... seems too slow to me...).
The real trick is to talk about yourself enough for interest yet ask as well to show interest, fun balancing act. If anything negative is said or some blunt statement, shrug your shoulders and treat it like water off a duck's back: it is a bit of a test, you do not need her approval, you are confident in yourself.
Best I got.
Good luck.
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
Its one of those stereotype things though isn't it. If you were to explain wargaming and the typical age groups that participate it, people who do not know much about it will assume its full of "large sweaty men who are lonely and sad", which is just stupid.
The lonely and sad parts weren't really what she was judging him on though. I can be a bit of a morose witch at times, but it was really the looks and the dress sense that specifically gave the game away.
I mean just to suck up Albatross' arse for a moment, in the "show yourself" thread he's the prime example of somebody who does not fit that description.
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Hit on the second best looking girl if in a group: Drives the pretty one crazy and makes the runner up happy to no end (think I saw this in a movie once but still works... strange).
Problem with that is perspective. My friends and I always have disagreement over who is the most attractive in any group, I know some of my female friends disagree on who is more attractive amongst them, etc. so thats an invalid tactic/point
Hate to say, the clean shaven look is still preferred, they imagine the stubble giving beard burn and find facial hair "intimidating". Buddy of mine does have a big moustache but is tall and looks like a plainclothes cop but his teeth are straight and white and when he smiles the women flock = bad boy look but gives safe vibes.
Huh, this is completely contrary to my experience...
Have something, anything that makes you different than the rest of the crowd of guys around. Accents was a good point, big hair, funky shirt you cannot find anywhere, a pin on your jacket... something that they can look at and ask about or comment on. Makes a great opener and the conversation is easy.
aka 'peacocking'
Get to know the staff at the places you are at or the places you take her: people greeting you by name makes you socially important and shows you are a "great guy" since other people seem to think so. You can always go there a day or two before and tip heavily and talk to them for a bit.
Eh, that hasn't got me very far (though I do get tons of free drinks )
Find the easiest way possible to get your contact information to the person. Get bump or whatever installed on your smartphone or something easy, or use a good old card with some trumped-up reason to have one. Good excuse to have something to write on for her number (or yes, enter in the smart phone... seems too slow to me...).
A friend of mine does the 'calling card' technique, its old school and super-corny but it seems to work for him. Its just a little card with his name, phone number, and 'person of interest' written on it and some artwork.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
Get one of those foam snake thingies you see at pool parties and place it from your crotch, down one trouser leg, and tuck it into your shoe.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
kronk wrote: Not every girl likes the John Holmes look...
Huh, he apparently died 5 years to the day before I was born.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Because it makes you more confident, lowers your standards, allows you to sing karaoke and dance in public, approach potential partners fearlessly, all with few negative side effects!*
*side effects may include nausea, diarrhea, shame, minor/major injuries, jail time, the clap, stories you will never live down and/or death
I rarely drink, and when I do it's only a single 330ml can or 500ml bottle of 4% cider.
Until there's a way of getting drunk by drinking copious amounts of tea, I don't think getting drunk is my answer.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
You could always try other mind altering substances. Then again it's probably better to try and act relatively normally or relaxed. Drinking excessively is a bad move as it can go either way and from my experience, usually horribly wrong.
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Because it makes you more confident, lowers your standards, allows you to sing karaoke and dance in public, approach potential partners fearlessly, all with few negative side effects!*
*side effects may include nausea, diarrhea, shame, minor/major injuries, jail time, the clap, stories you will never live down and/or death
Highlighted the relevant parts...
You could always try other mind altering substances. Then again it's probably better to try and act relatively normally or relaxed. Drinking excessively is a bad move as it can go either way and from my experience, usually horribly wrong.
Trust me, the kinds of girls you meet while on mind-altering substances usually arent the kinds that you want anything more than one night with.... if that much.
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On a serious note for alcohol, in moderation can help a lot of people relax and come out of their shells a little. Commonly known as social lubrication.
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Just focus on getting the date, don't concern yourself with her being girlfriend material or soul mate etc that puts up mental barriers and allows you to disqualify perfectly good prospects because you create a standard in your mind. Until you have an nice in depth conversation you won't know the first thing about that person, sometimes people that you'd never assume would be dateworthy turn out to be pretty cool and have a lot of common interests. Other people you think you know everything about turn out to be very different people then you ever expected. Infatuation tends to let us see what we want to see in somebody and it rarely has anything to do with who those people actually are.
In a worst case scenario you end up spending an evening out with somebody that it doesn't click with, but even a bad date is usually better then sitting at home alone.
The more women you are around the more practice you get at holding a decent conversation which gets you more respect with the next one. Dating is largely a matter of fishing around until you find one that you pair well with, that means you have to play the numbers game and will end up with a lot of no responses and bad dates, but sooner or later you find the correct person for you.
Don't worry about you body, ever notice how many women are married to heavy set guys? Women want a guy with personality and a sense of humor far more then just a body. While everybody appreciates a hot body women get turned on most by the mind and having good conversation. If you are insecure about your body or your job or whatever else they pick up on it, they aren't rejecting you because of those things but rather because they read your own lack of confidence in those things.
You can have a terrible job but love what you do and are passionate about it women will respect that. It doesn't matter if you shovel horse poop for a living, they want somebody upbeat and secure in themself. I know lots of guys who are deadbeats as far as their career but they project a positive outlook and enjoy what they do and they have no problem getting women because they respond to the those men being secure in what they do and enjoy.
Don't ask "what can I do to get women to like me", first figure out what you need to do to make yourself happy and how to like yourself. When you are happy with where you are in life that projects a positive vibe that in turn will attract women.
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chaos0xomega wrote: I dunno, I've been to some metal concerts (not overwhelmingly heavy/dark gak though, Animals As Leaders last night as a matter of fact), and people wear pretty normal clothes for the most part...
I have been to a few, and they were not . Mostly black clothes, very few colors, for instance.
Again, everything I know about Hot Topic, I know from South Park. We do not have those shops in France.
chaos0xomega wrote: If you are trying to get the goth/metalhead type, you're on your own.
Goth is going to be pretty different from metalhead. Like, really.
Musically, and I guess culturally too.
I like both music style, though. Goth is much more confidential, and most metalheads have no idea what real goth is like, they confuse it with some metal subgenre.
Different looks too :
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I will let you guess which picture is for which music . Hint : goth comes from punk, metal does not.
Glaiceana wrote: Maybe my deviant Art profile pic is a little clearer.
I went to look. That xenomorph drawing is very good !
I do not like the taste of alcohol, and I do not want to see what I am like when I am drunk. Really. I do not.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Punks, goths, metalheads, emos, crusties, etc seem to borrow styles from each other making it hard to distinguish them from each other.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I you don't like the taste of alcohol go for rum and coke or White Russians. Or keep drinking until it starts to taste good.
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Cheesecat wrote: Or keep drinking until it starts to taste good.
Did you miss my following sentence ?
Though since for some reason, the owner of the pizzeria next to the LGS where I go to play Warmachine offers me a glass of kir every time I go there, so I am slowly getting used to it.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
but serious out loud..... you have to say it out loud.
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. Mostly black clothes, very few colors, for instance.
