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Because I will loose control of myself, and who knows which kind of stuff I may do and regret later...
Also vomiting does not seem appealing to me .

Just feel every drink man and decide where you're comfortable with it's not like one drink is going to make you totally plastered.

I have a problem with moderation. I usually do not stop. That is why I would better stay away from things that can be addictive.

Well you're missing out on a lot of fun then.

No offence intended but how old are you Oxayotl? From your posts you seem too young to drink anyway.

He's 26 or he's lying (judging by his profile).


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But yeah his posts make him seem younger.

To be fair you often get people in their mid 20's on dakka who have the life experiences of a 16 year old.

It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case but since I rarely check the age of the users I wouldn't really know either.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
From your posts you seem too young to drink anyway.

I am not.
Especially in France .
26 indeed.
Why do my post make me seem younger ?

 Cheesecat wrote:
Why wouldn't you want to drink everything becomes funny and happier when you're drunk.

It turns all your bad feelings into good feelings! See also... actually, no. There are under-18s present. I do not advocate drug use in anyone under the age of majority.

Plenty of great advice in this thread, which is awesome. 'E Pluribus Unum' and all that. On the alcohol topic - yes, it can be useful in that it lowers the inhibitions of both parties. You can both relax and express how you 'really' feel about each other, which is always useful. It can also be a bit of a double-edged sword. Here's an example:

So, the other week I was out at a staff party, free bar, good times. There's this girl at work I've been trying to get with, sort of a long-term goal, if you will. She's awesome - beautiful, smart, really funny... Girlfriend material in other words. We spent most of the night together, flirting, laughing and drinking. Hard. Anyway, one thing leads to another and we end up kissing. She's like, all over me, pulling at my shirt, biting my face, then all of a sudden she ups and walks outside. She's standing there on her own, sort of swaying, and I realise she's absolutely hammered. I follow her outside and do the gentlemanly thing, offering to see her home safely. I'm walking her home and she's still grabbing me and kissing me, then she whispers into my ear 'you can stay over if you want..'

Great, right? Wrong.

It is not cool to sleep with a girl in that condition. She's in no state to give any sort of informed consent, and anyway, I only sleep with girls if they are sober enough to enjoy it. It's a rule I have, and I never break it. I may be a total fething streetwolf, but I am not an actual predator. Anyway, I politely refuse, saying 'I'm flattered, but you're drunk. I'll get you home safe and we'll pick this up later, OK?' Lo and behold, when I text her the next day to see how she's feeling (because I'm nice like that) she has no memory of getting home at all. Totally the right call on my part. If I'd slept with her, I would probably have blown any chance of getting with her in the future. At least this way she knows I'm a decent guy who can be trusted, and who isn't after only one thing. At least, not with her.

Just my 2p on the whole booze issue. Something to think about. Part II coming soon.

I was just talking about my experience with booze which tend to be fun, enjoyable experiences which I don't think is unusual (except for the occasional hangover or puking) but obliviously it can have negative consequences on people psychologically, emotionally, health-wise, etc if not

not done responsibly.


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I've never been an angry or sad drunk I just become silly and stupid.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Alby/Glaiceana, how'd the date go? Inquiring minds want to know!

Ha, no date, sadly. She lives in the West Midlands and is (as far as I can tell) at least 10 years my junior. I was making the point that it's not difficult to ask a lady out, even an attractive one like our very own Glaiceana.

FUNFACT: I was expecting her to say 'no', so I could go 'See, I got shot down! It's not so bad!' Just goes to show... You never know. That girl? She might just surprise you and say 'yes'. Think about how fething awesome that would feel. That's your motivation. In fact, feth it, I'm setting some homework, Project Mayhem style.

Project Babe-hem: (OK, the name needs some work )
Homework: Your task is to apply the advice contained within this thread so far, and ask a girl out tomorrow. That's it, just ask her out. Use it as a learning experience. Even if she says 'no', it'll be useful because you'll see that nothing particularly bad happens. The ground doesn't open up, people don't point and laugh (unless you're in high school and you ask in front of the whole class), she just says 'no'. Big fething deal. Get used to the feeling and learn not to give a gak.

Pro-tip: Ask a girl you're not actually attracted to. That way, you won't care about the outcome.


And remember - where you go, Dakka goes. We're rooting for you!


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 KingCracker wrote:
First of Albatross........ music? Soon??

Not soon, but I am planning on trying to release something at some point. It's sort of stuck at the demo stage really, while I'm on my vision quest. Of ass.




Here's an example of the stuff I'm demo-ing. Kind of a sixties psych vibe: https://soundcloud.com/maurice-minor-uk/1000-years

It's very rough. Apologies for the quality.


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 Medium of Death wrote:


I mean just to suck up Albatross' arse for a moment, in the "show yourself" thread he's the prime example of somebody who does not fit that description.

Aww, thanks bro!

Yeah, most people are surprised to learn that I'm into nightmare battles in the 41st Milliennium, but I make absolutely zero apologies for it, and have never tried to hide it. It's not the game, guys. It's the gamers. Far too many of us are unwashed social retards with appalling dress sense, which prevents those of us who aren't from 'coming out', for fear of guilt by association. We don't have to be like that, though. There is no gamer 'uniform'. Even if you're into extreme metal, you can still look cool. I like metal, but that doesn't mean I have to wear awful jeans and an oversized band t-shirt. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it just narrows your potential pool of love-interests to girls who pretty much dress the same. Which seems self-defeating.

That was rather enjoyable. You're a saint

The thing with drinking is that some people NEED it to have fun, which is bad. I'm not a big drinker at all and have never been drunk, but it's never stopped me having fun and enjoying life!
Alby, that's a good post, have an exalt, and thanks for the compliment!

 Cheesecat wrote:

I you don't like the taste of alcohol go for rum and coke or White Russians. Or keep drinking until it starts to taste good.

This could be potentially bad advice for your wallet. A lot of bars/clubs will make them pretty weak in order to save on alcohol costs.

If you don't like drinking, honestly, don't try to force it. If you can find something you like, great, if not, it's not worth the money.

Why on earth would you go to a bar that waters down booze in the first place?

You live in a university town where the only bars and clubs are the ones that cater to dumb drunk 18 year olds who can't tell the difference.

That, or I'm just used to making my own drinks really, really strong. Could possibly be that.

I wasn't aware that you'd visited recently?

That was a direct answer to your question pertaining to myself, not a reference to your personal habitat.

In which case I'd advise you to look around for new bars, I find that my favourite bars in my university town are the ones that the students often ignore because they aren't in the middle of town or because they don't play any music.

Always be careful about accidentally walking into a nationalist pub though.

Sex is usually better when slightly drunk in my experience also. Of course it can be all too easy to cross the line into whiskey -er... dong territory. But a healthy buzz lowers any remaining insecurities just enough to really go at it in new ways... just sayin..


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I should amend this to say that it goes for first few times encounters. When I'm with an actual partner that I care for, most of the time I want to be sober. ymmv.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
In which case I'd advise you to look around for new bars, I find that my favourite bars in my university town are the ones that the students often ignore because they aren't in the middle of town or because they don't play any music.

Always be careful about accidentally walking into a nationalist pub though.

Short of the country bars and the land of lonely, middle-aged women (not the good looking kind), I've been everywhere.

If there's one thing I've learned in my time, unless you're pouring it yourself, it's either beer or straight liquor. Unless it's wine night.

Then go to a country bar (the least stabby one) or a middle-aged woman bar with some of your mates and try them out.

 Albatross wrote:
It turns all your bad feelings into good feelings!

Not for everyone. I know people react quite differently to alcohol. I spend one year in the same classes as one guy who was, like, almost always at least slightly inebriated, and he was such a nice, fun and amiable fellow. One friend of mine becomes extremely irritating and annoying when drunk. Some people become violent. Other become sad (or, I do not know, maybe they are always sad but just show it when drunk ?).

 Albatross wrote:
I follow her outside and do the gentlemanly thing, offering to see her home safely. I'm walking her home and she's still grabbing me and kissing me, then she whispers into my ear 'you can stay over if you want..'
[…]
Anyway, I politely refuse, saying 'I'm flattered, but you're drunk. I'll get you home safe and we'll pick this up later, OK?' Lo and behold, when I text her the next day to see how she's feeling (because I'm nice like that) she has no memory of getting home at all.

You were not that drunk yourself, were you ? Clearly you remember what happened, and it seems you were still able to make the right decision.
Here, your colleague have done something she may have regrets about when sober. And it is actually far from the worse decision she could have made while drunk. That is why I do not want to get drunk.

 Cheesecat wrote:
not done responsibly.

I do not think I would be good at doing it only responsibly, so not doing it at all, or almost not, is the way to go for me, I think.
Clearly, better less than enough than too much, in this case.

 Albatross wrote:
FUNFACT: I was expecting her to say 'no', so I could go 'See, I got shot down! It's not so bad!' Just goes to show... You never know. That girl? She might just surprise you and say 'yes'. Think about how fething awesome that would feel. That's your motivation. In fact, feth it, I'm setting some homework, Project Mayhem style.

Project Babe-hem: (OK, the name needs some work )
Homework: Your task is to apply the advice contained within this thread so far, and ask a girl out tomorrow. That's it, just ask her out. Use it as a learning experience. Even if she says 'no', it'll be useful because you'll see that nothing particularly bad happens. The ground doesn't open up, people don't point and laugh (unless you're in high school and you ask in front of the whole class), she just says 'no'. Big fething deal. Get used to the feeling and learn not to give a gak.

See, the thing is that it is not just about how we (those who ask) feel about this. It is also about how the one we ask out feel about it. It seems it did not annoy Glaiceana, which is not surprising given it was only a joke proposal over the internet. Might not be the same with a different guy asking out a different girl in a completely different setting.
That is where self-worth plays a big role. If you do not have any, you will even feel like you are doing the girl/guy a disservice by asking out.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Albatross wrote:
It turns all your bad feelings into good feelings!

Not for everyone. I know people react quite differently to alcohol. I spend one year in the same classes as one guy who was, like, almost always at least slightly inebriated, and he was such a nice, fun and amiable fellow. One friend of mine becomes extremely irritating and annoying when drunk. Some people become violent. Other become sad (or, I do not know, maybe they are always sad but just show it when drunk ?).

I believe he was being sarcastic. (Sauce: The very next sentence - like, right next to the one you quoted.)

Edit : wrong topic.

It's quite hard to get so drunk you remember nothing.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Albatross wrote:
I follow her outside and do the gentlemanly thing, offering to see her home safely. I'm walking her home and she's still grabbing me and kissing me, then she whispers into my ear 'you can stay over if you want..'
[…]
Anyway, I politely refuse, saying 'I'm flattered, but you're drunk. I'll get you home safe and we'll pick this up later, OK?' Lo and behold, when I text her the next day to see how she's feeling (because I'm nice like that) she has no memory of getting home at all.

You were not that drunk yourself, were you ? Clearly you remember what happened, and it seems you were still able to make the right decision.
Here, your colleague have done something she may have regrets about when sober. And it is actually far from the worse decision she could have made while drunk. That is why I do not want to get drunk.

I was totally smashed. I just handle it better than most people, being a fairly hardened drinker, and it's something of a curse that I almost always remember everything that happens when I'm drunk. I'm not really sure what you're driving at, here...

 Cheesecat wrote:
not done responsibly.

I do not think I would be good at doing it only responsibly, so not doing it at all, or almost not, is the way to go for me, I think.
Clearly, better less than enough than too much, in this case.

Why? What's so wrong with making a few bad decisions? Waking up with a few hangovers? I think your trepidation comes from the fact that you didn't get a lot of drunken shenanigans out of the way when you were much younger. As an adult, I know my limits and can drink just enough to have a good time, depending on the context, but that's only because I've fethed up a lot as a younger man.

 Albatross wrote:
FUNFACT: I was expecting her to say 'no', so I could go 'See, I got shot down! It's not so bad!' Just goes to show... You never know. That girl? She might just surprise you and say 'yes'. Think about how fething awesome that would feel. That's your motivation. In fact, feth it, I'm setting some homework, Project Mayhem style.

Project Babe-hem: (OK, the name needs some work )
Homework: Your task is to apply the advice contained within this thread so far, and ask a girl out tomorrow. That's it, just ask her out. Use it as a learning experience. Even if she says 'no', it'll be useful because you'll see that nothing particularly bad happens. The ground doesn't open up, people don't point and laugh (unless you're in high school and you ask in front of the whole class), she just says 'no'. Big fething deal. Get used to the feeling and learn not to give a gak.

See, the thing is that it is not just about how we (those who ask) feel about this. It is also about how the one we ask out feel about it. It seems it did not annoy Glaiceana, which is not surprising given it was only a joke proposal over the internet. Might not be the same with a different guy asking out a different girl in a completely different setting.
That is where self-worth plays a big role. If you do not have any, you will even feel like you are doing the girl/guy a disservice by asking out.

That's why you need to develop a winning mentality. I mean, listen to yourself! You don't exactly come across all 'rainbows and sunshine'. The point of my task was to use it as a learning experience so that you get some of these - and please don't be offended - stupid fething ideas out of your head. A girl's going to be offended or annoyed if you ask her out?

Merde.

And it wasn't a joke 'proposal'. If she's ever in Manchester, it would be my pleasure to take her out for a drink. I walk it like I talk it, because I am confident. Not because I think I'm better than anyone, because I genuinely don't think like that. I am the way I am because I'm not paralysed by fear and self-loathing, and that's where you need to get to. I'm sure you have a lot to offer the right girl, you just need to recognise it in yourself. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if you don't. If you don't rate yourself, why should anyone else?

Yeah, it's the combination of self-loathing and datelessness that creates the vicious circle. It builds a simple request for a cup of coffee into some kind of marriage proposal.

And I think it feeds the pedestal-placing behavior you sometimes see among dateless geeks. The logic is that a date with me would be horrible, so it's insulting to even suggest it to anyone. Therefore, I'll be gallant by sparing the fair lady from a date with a troll like me. Perhaps I'll try to become platonic friends with her. Maybe that way she'll eventually notice me for the gallant fellow I am underneath and look past my trollish exterior. Beauty and the Beast!

It's all nonsense. If you want to be "rescued," you have to rescue yourself.

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, it's the combination of self-loathing and datelessness that creates the vicious circle. It builds a simple request for a cup of coffee into some kind of marriage proposal.

And I think it feeds the pedestal-placing behavior you sometimes see among dateless geeks. The logic is that a date with me would be horrible, so it's insulting to even suggest it to anyone. Therefore, I'll be gallant by sparing the fair lady from a date with a troll like me. Perhaps I'll try to become platonic friends with her. Maybe that way she'll eventually notice me for the gallant fellow I am underneath and look past my trollish exterior. Beauty and the Beast!

It's all nonsense. If you want to be "rescued," you have to rescue yourself.

Word. Girls are just girls, dudes are just dudes. 'Twas ever thus.