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The advice on alcohol here is a little immature guys. If someone doesn't want to drink that's up to them.

Never understood why people rarely have to explain why they drink, but almost always have to explain why they DON'T drink.

Still, good thread so far. Interesting reading.
HSOO: I have some sympathy for you, French girls can be a little intimidating sometimes! Same with upper class English girls, would never be sure how to talk to them. Still, you've got to give it a go. It will be way less awful than you imagine even in the worst case scenario.

 Albatross wrote:
I'm not really sure what you're driving at, here...

That I could totally make very bad decisions if I was drinking.

 Albatross wrote:
I think your trepidation comes from the fact that you didn't get a lot of drunken shenanigans out of the way when you were much younger.

Yes. But I did not get any for the same reason I do not get any now. Nobody has forbidden me to drink alcohol or anything.

 Albatross wrote:
That's why you need to develop a winning mentality.

Yes, I need to.

 gorgon wrote:
And I think it feeds the pedestal-placing behavior you sometimes see among dateless geeks. The logic is that a date with me would be horrible, so it's insulting to even suggest it to anyone. Therefore, I'll be gallant by sparing the fair lady from a date with a troll like me. Perhaps I'll try to become platonic friends with her. Maybe that way she'll eventually notice me for the gallant fellow I am underneath and look past my trollish exterior.

Did you read my subconscious ?
That is quite spot on.

 Da Boss wrote:
HSOO: I have some sympathy for you, French girls can be a little intimidating sometimes!

I did only very marginally better with Korean girls and Iranian girls yet.

 Fafnir wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

I you don't like the taste of alcohol go for rum and coke or White Russians. Or keep drinking until it starts to taste good.

This could be potentially bad advice for your wallet. A lot of bars/clubs will make them pretty weak in order to save on alcohol costs.

If you don't like drinking, honestly, don't try to force it. If you can find something you like, great, if not, it's not worth the money.

You can go get your booze at a liquor store it's cheaper that way and you know exactly what you're getting. Mind you if I'm going out to a pub to drink I'm going to "The Noble Pig" (or Carlo's if I want to stay later) it's got good food and the house beers are tasty.


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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Albatross wrote:
It turns all your bad feelings into good feelings!

Not for everyone. I know people react quite differently to alcohol. I spend one year in the same classes as one guy who was, like, almost always at least slightly inebriated, and he was such a nice, fun and amiable fellow. One friend of mine becomes extremely irritating and annoying when drunk. Some people become violent. Other become sad (or, I do not know, maybe they are always sad but just show it when drunk ?).

I don't think that it is uncommon for sober people to find drunks annoying.

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 Corpsesarefun wrote:
From your posts you seem too young to drink anyway.

I am not.
Especially in France .
26 indeed.
Why do my post make me seem younger ?

It's probably because english isn't your first language, your grammar (which is very very good mind you) is very proper, etc. As a native english speaker reading your posts, you can tell that something is 'off' but its hard to place what it is (without being able to hear the accent)

So, the other week I was out at a staff party, free bar, good times. There's this girl at work I've been trying to get with, sort of a long-term goal, if you will. She's awesome - beautiful, smart, really funny... Girlfriend material in other words. We spent most of the night together, flirting, laughing and drinking. Hard. Anyway, one thing leads to another and we end up kissing. She's like, all over me, pulling at my shirt, biting my face, then all of a sudden she ups and walks outside. She's standing there on her own, sort of swaying, and I realise she's absolutely hammered. I follow her outside and do the gentlemanly thing, offering to see her home safely. I'm walking her home and she's still grabbing me and kissing me, then she whispers into my ear 'you can stay over if you want..'

Great, right? Wrong.

AGREED! Good for you Albatross, +100 respect and an exalt.

It is not cool to sleep with a girl in that condition. She's in no state to give any sort of informed consent, and anyway, I only sleep with girls if they are sober enough to enjoy it. It's a rule I have, and I never break it. I may be a total fething streetwolf, but I am not an actual predator. Anyway, I politely refuse, saying 'I'm flattered, but you're drunk. I'll get you home safe and we'll pick this up later, OK?' Lo and behold, when I text her the next day to see how she's feeling (because I'm nice like that) she has no memory of getting home at all. Totally the right call on my part. If I'd slept with her, I would probably have blown any chance of getting with her in the future. At least this way she knows I'm a decent guy who can be trusted, and who isn't after only one thing. At least, not with her.

And I hope it works out for you! I've been in the same situation (as have my friends), never seems to work out for us... in one friends case it turned otu she was just sober enough to recall what had happened, and she got pissed at him for not getting in bed with her and they haven't spoken in the 3 years since... granted it was a bit more complicated, but still...

On the plus side, one would think that its a pretty good indicator that you have a good shot with her. They say women decide within a few minutes of meeting you whether or not they would date you, if she was like that while she was tipsy, it probably means that you haven't been disqualified (yet).

Ha, no date, sadly. She lives in the West Midlands and is (as far as I can tell) at least 10 years my junior. I was making the point that it's not difficult to ask a lady out, even an attractive one like our very own Glaiceana.

The "rule" in the US is half your age plus 7 years... I.E. - the youngest you can go is 1/2 of your current age, plus 7 years, so as a 24 year old, it is acceptable for me to date down to 19 and no younger... no idea how old she is, but I think you'd have to be pretty fething old for her to be too young for you

Homework: Your task is to apply the advice contained within this thread so far, and ask a girl out tomorrow. That's it, just ask her out. Use it as a learning experience. Even if she says 'no', it'll be useful because you'll see that nothing particularly bad happens. The ground doesn't open up, people don't point and laugh (unless you're in high school and you ask in front of the whole class), she just says 'no'. Big fething deal. Get used to the feeling and learn not to give a gak.

Pro-tip: Ask a girl you're not actually attracted to. That way, you won't care about the outcome.

If I meet a single lady in the next 24 hours, I will.

Far too many of us are unwashed social retards with appalling dress sense, which prevents those of us who aren't from 'coming out', for fear of guilt by association. We don't have to be like that, though. There is no gamer 'uniform'. Even if you're into extreme metal, you can still look cool. I like metal, but that doesn't mean I have to wear awful jeans and an oversized band t-shirt. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it just narrows your potential pool of love-interests to girls who pretty much dress the same. Which seems self-defeating.

Agreed... I think we need another thread to discuss this actually... I sometimes feel like a dirty elitist bastard for my attitude towards other gamers in public, etc. but honestly, I don't want to be seen with people like that for that reason.

 Peregrine wrote:
Buy one.

I thought it was to let her club you and bring you to her cave.

Or maybe I am thinking of Australian dates.

Anyway. IN all seriousness it is all about showing off who you are as a person. If you are confident about yourself, people will like you and will be attracted to you more. But maybe that only happens with me.

 Da Boss wrote:
Never understood why people rarely have to explain why they drink, but almost always have to explain why they DON'T drink.

I found it was more or less like this:

1) Offer them a drink. If they drink, skip to step 3), if they do not drink, go to step 2)
2) Ignore them; re-offer drink. Repeat until they accept drink. Once accepted, proceed to step 3).
3) Be happy in the knowledge that you've improved someone's life a little by giving them alcohol.

Even with family at birthdays and things, the phrases "oh go on" and "it's just a little" are repeated ad nauseam until you either cave in, or give them a reason they think is good enough. For the record, "my antidepressants say I shouldn't drink alcohol" apparently isn't a good enough reason for turning down a small glass of something.

 Albatross wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, it's the combination of self-loathing and datelessness that creates the vicious circle. It builds a simple request for a cup of coffee into some kind of marriage proposal.

And I think it feeds the pedestal-placing behavior you sometimes see among dateless geeks. The logic is that a date with me would be horrible, so it's insulting to even suggest it to anyone. Therefore, I'll be gallant by sparing the fair lady from a date with a troll like me. Perhaps I'll try to become platonic friends with her. Maybe that way she'll eventually notice me for the gallant fellow I am underneath and look past my trollish exterior. Beauty and the Beast!

It's all nonsense. If you want to be "rescued," you have to rescue yourself.

Word. Girls are just girls, dudes are just dudes. 'Twas ever thus.

The self loathing thing I totally get. If you don't like yourself how can you expect people to like you? I guess this applies even beyond the scope of dating.

I've been trying to improve myself recently, physically with the hope it knocks on mentally, and it is difficult but I'm trying hard to stick with it. I've let myself get into a bit of a rut over the last few years and it has taken me a long time to realise it.

I've really enjoyed starting some kind of exercise routine. It does make you feel better, even if you're a toneless wonder like me. Progress nonetheless!

chaos0xomega wrote:
It's probably because english isn't your first language, your grammar (which is very very good mind you) is very proper, etc. As a native english speaker reading your posts, you can tell that something is 'off' but its hard to place what it is (without being able to hear the accent)

Oh, I see. I have an explanation for at least part of that. I am writing (scientific) articles in English for my PhD, and my tutor repeatedly pointed to me that I did use informal, verbal constructions like “it's” instead of “it is”, or “let's” instead of “let us”. So, I decided to just stop using those altogether, else I would certainly continue to use them in my articles.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Ha, no date, sadly. She lives in the West Midlands and is (as far as I can tell) at least 10 years my junior. I was making the point that it's not difficult to ask a lady out, even an attractive one like our very own Glaiceana.

The "rule" in the US is half your age plus 7 years... I.E. - the youngest you can go is 1/2 of your current age, plus 7 years, so as a 24 year old, it is acceptable for me to date down to 19 and no younger... no idea how old she is, but I think you'd have to be pretty fething old for her to be too young for you

I'm 22 actually
But yeah I'm going to bring up my earlier point here with regards to drinking, you should not have to do it to have a good time!
And as for the self loathing thing, that is often a pretty serious thing, its something you should definitely work on, I've seen it effect guys even attempting to ask girls out. They often have this preconception that they cannot compete with other guys.

 Da Boss wrote:
The advice on alcohol here is a little immature guys. If someone doesn't want to drink that's up to them.

It's all well and good to say that but on the internet the majority of people who say "I don't drink because I'm scared I'll lose control" tend to be very inexperienced with alcohol or recovering alcoholics, in this situation I assumed the former to be true. Those who only have the a drink once in a blue moon or disagree with drinking on moral grounds tend to give other reasons. For example my friend and dakka user Avatar720 doesn't drink other than the occasional soft cider, I don't see this as a sign of inexperience as I know why he does so.

I agree that you should not have to drink to have a good time but it's hardly a monster that controls your actions from the moment you first take a sip.

 Albatross wrote:


So, the other week I was out at a staff party, free bar, good times. There's this girl at work I've been trying to get with, sort of a long-term goal, if you will. She's awesome - beautiful, smart, really funny... Girlfriend material in other words. We spent most of the night together, flirting, laughing and drinking. Hard. Anyway, one thing leads to another and we end up kissing. She's like, all over me, pulling at my shirt, biting my face, then all of a sudden she ups and walks outside. She's standing there on her own, sort of swaying, and I realise she's absolutely hammered. I follow her outside and do the gentlemanly thing, offering to see her home safely. I'm walking her home and she's still grabbing me and kissing me, then she whispers into my ear 'you can stay over if you want..'

Great, right? Wrong.

You're a pretty decent fellow. I have a great deal of respect for how you handled that situation.

 Glaiceana wrote:
Think the cons outweigh the pros there a bit

Wait, those were cons?

I assume he meant some of them as cons XD

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
It's quite hard to get so drunk you remember nothing.

No it isn't.

Different people experience alcohol in different ways. I mean, I drink, but my Dad's side of the family has 4 alcoholics on it, and I am wary about drinking due to that.

If someone doesn't want to drink, you don't need to evangelise at them about the benefits of drinking, it's usually the case that people are smart enough to see the benefits and drawbacks themselves and choose for themselves. It's the lack of respect inherent in assuming someone must be "inexperienced" or immature because they don't drink that gets to me.

I remember when I started drinking and how great it was to have this thing that I now shared with the majority of other adults, that was like instant conversation fodder and a very good "I belong here too!" marker. I'm sure I was a condescending ass to someone who didn't drink at the time (I was a condescending ass to almost everyone, so...). But a few years later when I went through a pretty rough time, alcohol really compounded that and made me a lot more unhappy and at the base of it, unstable. It's very individual, but for some reason it is considered acceptable to preach at people about it.

Anyway. Sorry. Preachy ranty mode off.

The biggest thing that frustrates me about alcohol is my own tolerance. I'm too busy to build it up the way I'd like to, so social drinking is always a balance game which gets upset easily once shots start flowing.

 Medium of Death wrote:

 Albatross wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, it's the combination of self-loathing and datelessness that creates the vicious circle. It builds a simple request for a cup of coffee into some kind of marriage proposal.

And I think it feeds the pedestal-placing behavior you sometimes see among dateless geeks. The logic is that a date with me would be horrible, so it's insulting to even suggest it to anyone. Therefore, I'll be gallant by sparing the fair lady from a date with a troll like me. Perhaps I'll try to become platonic friends with her. Maybe that way she'll eventually notice me for the gallant fellow I am underneath and look past my trollish exterior. Beauty and the Beast!

It's all nonsense. If you want to be "rescued," you have to rescue yourself.

Word. Girls are just girls, dudes are just dudes. 'Twas ever thus.

The self loathing thing I totally get. If you don't like yourself how can you expect people to like you? I guess this applies even beyond the scope of dating.

I think the situation I outlined is dangerous because it can lead guys into an even deeper hole. Now they waste their time pining for their platonic unattainable friend, practicing the wrong kinds of behavior, and generally ensuring they won't succeed. That path is fake and a trap...you may be able to see your destination from it, but it'll never take you there.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I agree that you should not have to drink to have a good time but it's hardly a monster that controls your actions from the moment you first take a sip.

Yeah, I know. i have drink alcohol already. As I mentioned, I have a small glass of kir almost every time I go play Warmachine . I have tasted a few different beverage, from wine (I do not like it at all, usually) to beer, champagne, cider, chartreuse, soju, …
It is just that I usually do not like the taste (though IIRC soju tasted ok/good), I do not want the effect, and I am quite worried about anything that could prove addictive. I also do not smoke, neither tobacco nor… other stuff.
I used to say I am straight-edge, mostly because of how exotic it sounded (we do not have a huge hardcore scene around here, I guess), but most of them tend to be a little too dogmatic about it for me.

 Da Boss wrote:
Different people experience alcohol in different ways. I mean, I drink, but my Dad's side of the family has 4 alcoholics on it, and I am wary about drinking due to that.

I didn't drink for the longest time for similar reasons.

Okay, is this a drinking thread or a dating thread?

The number 1 mistake I see guys make on a date is that they talk about themselves WAY too much. I have always had good success asking questions and actually listening to the answers and then use that to spring into the next question.

If you want to keep any mystery, at the end of the date the lady should know little about you; but you should know a lot about them. That gives them a reason to see you again.

YMMV

 Easy E wrote:
Okay, is this a drinking thread or a dating thread?

The number 1 mistake I see guys make on a date is that they talk about themselves WAY too much. I have always had good success asking questions and actually listening to the answers and then use that to spring into the next question.

If you want to keep any mystery, at the end of the date the lady should know little about you; but you should know a lot about them. That gives them a reason to see you again.

YMMV

Quoted for absolute truth and exalted. This is GREAT advice. Women like to be given space to talk about themselves, and like a man who can listen instead of trying to dominate the discussion, in my experience. It's also a handy gauge of how interested they are in you too, if they ask you questions.


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 kronk wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Different people experience alcohol in different ways. I mean, I drink, but my Dad's side of the family has 4 alcoholics on it, and I am wary about drinking due to that.

I didn't drink for the longest time for similar reasons.

Word. My dad was a chronic alcoholic and died of liver failure at 42. Thing is though, it's my life, not his. Drinking in moderation is fine, as long as you're the one in control and not the booze. That said, if someone doesn't want to drink, that's their business. I will say this though - social drinking is the norm, and dating is made a little more awkward if you do not drink at all, as most first dates seem to involve a few quiet drinks somewhere as get-to-know-you-better. Coffee works too, mind.


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 Medium of Death wrote:

 Albatross wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, it's the combination of self-loathing and datelessness that creates the vicious circle. It builds a simple request for a cup of coffee into some kind of marriage proposal.

And I think it feeds the pedestal-placing behavior you sometimes see among dateless geeks. The logic is that a date with me would be horrible, so it's insulting to even suggest it to anyone. Therefore, I'll be gallant by sparing the fair lady from a date with a troll like me. Perhaps I'll try to become platonic friends with her. Maybe that way she'll eventually notice me for the gallant fellow I am underneath and look past my trollish exterior. Beauty and the Beast!

It's all nonsense. If you want to be "rescued," you have to rescue yourself.

Word. Girls are just girls, dudes are just dudes. 'Twas ever thus.

The self loathing thing I totally get. If you don't like yourself how can you expect people to like you? I guess this applies even beyond the scope of dating.

I've been trying to improve myself recently, physically with the hope it knocks on mentally, and it is difficult but I'm trying hard to stick with it. I've let myself get into a bit of a rut over the last few years and it has taken me a long time to realise it.

I've really enjoyed starting some kind of exercise routine. It does make you feel better, even if you're a toneless wonder like me. Progress nonetheless!

Thing is though mate, it's the mental/psychological benefits of working out that are key in building confidence, at least until you start seeing results, which in turn boost your confidence. Hell, it's not like I'm ripped or anything - I've gone from being a sack of gak to a carrier-bag of gak (with slightly bigger arms, shoulders and legs). I feel awesome, though!


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chaos0xomega wrote:

Homework: Your task is to apply the advice contained within this thread so far, and ask a girl out tomorrow. That's it, just ask her out. Use it as a learning experience. Even if she says 'no', it'll be useful because you'll see that nothing particularly bad happens. The ground doesn't open up, people don't point and laugh (unless you're in high school and you ask in front of the whole class), she just says 'no'. Big fething deal. Get used to the feeling and learn not to give a gak.

Pro-tip: Ask a girl you're not actually attracted to. That way, you won't care about the outcome.

If I meet a single lady in the next 24 hours, I will.

Do it, bro! We're right there with you! Make us proud.

There is nothing to fear but fear itself. And maybe a swift knee to the balls. Y'know, if it goes really badly.


I kid, I kid!


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Part II - The Importance of Proximity
Basically, closeness and physical contact. If a girl (or guy, but let's say girl for the purposes of this post for the sake of brevity, and let's face it, probability) is willing to be in your personal space then that's a pretty big indicator that she's willing to be in your personal space. OK, so that sounds obvious when I put it like that, but you'd be surprised how often guys miss it. It's a subtle, but very real, cue that every guy should be aware of and know how to read. I'm not talking standing within a few feet of you, I'm talking inches or centimetres away, so close that she occasionally brushes into you. Now, be careful - it has to be completely voluntary and intentional! Not every girl who brushes into you or stands close on the train wants to make you her personal sex-chimp. Neither should you invade her personal space in the hope of engineering something. Before you're ready for those sort of moves, you should already know that she is definitely interested. Very few girls like some random bloke *ahem* 'all up in her grill', so to speak.

OK, so I'm far too white and English to pull off 'all up in her grill', but you take my point.

Proximity should be her decision, at least in the early stages. Look for ways to invite her into your personal space and make her stay there a pleasant one - smell nice (yes, sorry guys, but nice cologne/EDT is a must! Not optional. Having difficulty picking one? PM me for suggestions. ), look fresh, smile, be friendly and use open, confident body language. Examples of ways to invite a girl into your personal space:

- Show her something. Preferably something you have made/done that is done well and that you are proud of. Aptitude is sexy. Even well-painted minis, though that works MUCH better with girls who are, at worst, neutral about geekery. Saying that, I've had one or two girls who were not even remotely interested in wargaming cooing over some of my minis, and I'm at best a mediocre painter. Alternatively, If you're in school, beckon her over to come and check your work ('does this look right to you?'), even if, hell, ESPECIALLY if you know it's right. This has the double advantage of inviting her into your personal space and demonstrating your confidence by getting her to come to you, as opposed to the other way around. Remember not to explain yourself too thoroughly. Something along the lines of 'Uh, could you come and look at this for 2 seconds?' Don't be too polite, don't be too formal.

- 'Hey, what do you think of my new cologne? I'm not sure...' Wait! Come back! It actually works. I will offer the caveat that you shouldn't say this to strangers, though! You will need to have at least some acquaintance with the target, because if pitched wrong, it's quite a bold move. The tone you're looking for is something like this: 'Uh, hey. You're a girl (said jovially, as if she's just some random girl and you don't give a gak - if pitched right, she'll probably chuckle), what do you think of my new cologne? I'm not sure... I think it might be a bit sweet.' Then leave the rest to her. Obviously, make sure you smell nice first. I've used this technique fairly recently. Let's just say it works.

Anyway, these are just things that work for me. Feel free to disagree, comments and critique very welcome!

Coming soon: Part III: Is She Even Interested?

 Easy E wrote:
The number 1 mistake I see guys make on a date is that they talk about themselves WAY too much. I have always had good success asking questions and actually listening to the answers and then use that to spring into the next question.

If you want to keep any mystery, at the end of the date the lady should know little about you; but you should know a lot about them. That gives them a reason to see you again.

This is known. It reminds me of this hilarious scene from “La Cité de la peur”, famous French comedy, where Patrick Bialès dates Odile Deray. Odile Deray keep on saying incredibly boring stuff, and Patrick Bialès just respond by short phrases like “Oh, that's fascinating ! Please tell me more.” They obviously end up spending the night together. I could not find the scene on YouTube :(.


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 Albatross wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
I've been trying to improve myself recently, physically with the hope it knocks on mentally, and it is difficult but I'm trying hard to stick with it. I've let myself get into a bit of a rut over the last few years and it has taken me a long time to realise it.

I've really enjoyed starting some kind of exercise routine. It does make you feel better, even if you're a toneless wonder like me. Progress nonetheless!

Thing is though mate, it's the mental/psychological benefits of working out that are key in building confidence, at least until you start seeing results, which in turn boost your confidence. Hell, it's not like I'm ripped or anything - I've gone from being a sack of gak to a carrier-bag of gak (with slightly bigger arms, shoulders and legs). I feel awesome, though!

I did push-ups almost every day for some time. I managed to get from one series of 20 to about 40/50. And then my wrist started aching. Nothing really painful, but enough to make me worry I was going to damage my wrists, so I stopped until it it went away, and I did not start over. But now that I found this document : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_keywords=army_get_fit.pdf&match_type=all&search_titles=0&forum=&daterange=-1&daterange2=0&sort_by=time&sort_dir=DESC&resulttype=1 I am going to try to see if doing a bunch of different exercises is better than just push-up. I currently do only one circuit, but with the highest number of repetitions. Oh, and I skip 7) because I have no box.
Also, I registered to do climbing twice a week yesterday. There is no better encouragement to push your arms very strongly than “If you do not, you will fall”, and with the adrenaline, you barely feel it. Well, you do feel it, but way less than afterward when recovering .

Anyway, the pushup worked for body image at least, even though they did not make me confident.

Good advise on proximity.

Is this thread about how to get a date, or how to make a date successful? I.e. getting another date?

Just want to clarify before I go on.

 Easy E wrote:
Good advise on proximity.

Is this thread about how to get a date, or how to make a date successful? I.e. getting another date?

Just want to clarify before I go on.

I'm sure any help in either area would be much appreciated. Go for your guns!

The exercising is definitely helping, even though it's early days. Definitely not going to gakbag it.

So has anybody managed to secure a date in the past few days then or even tried?

I've had them for about the last three weeks, though not necessarily due to this thread.

 Medium of Death wrote:
So has anybody managed to secure a date in the past few days then or even tried?

Both my hands said they're busy. =/

Im aiming for something this weekend, simply put I dont really have the time to meet people to ask out on a date during the week :(

...and then she said that she had no interest in a fourth date. I'm confused, but I guess that's how it goes.

 Medium of Death wrote:
The exercising is definitely helping, even though it's early days. Definitely not going to gakbag it.

So has anybody managed to secure a date in the past few days then or even tried?

I'm talking to a couple of girls on Tinder (a must!), but I'm probably going to just chill this weekend, as last weekend was mental and work has been pretty stressful this week. Thankfully I'm off for 5 days this weekend as opposed to the usual 4. I guess I'll just see how things play out. I could always hang with the girl I went out with last thursday, as she seemed pretty cool.



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 Avatar 720 wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
So has anybody managed to secure a date in the past few days then or even tried?

Both my hands said they're busy. =/

Even Lefty? It's high time he started earning his keep, if you ask me.