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 Rotary wrote:
So its a legally adult woman who is saying, please still treat me as a child by paying for everything, but don't actually be my parent and expect me to obey your rules.

If i were her parents i'd pay up for tuition, and that would be it unless she moved home.

That's the line of action I was thinking as well. Your education is covered. Everything else...... good luck.

And in other news, spoiled brats are everywhere.

She plays Lacrosse, that's all I needed to know.

 KingCracker wrote:

 Rotary wrote:
So its a legally adult woman who is saying, please still treat me as a child by paying for everything, but don't actually be my parent and expect me to obey your rules.

If i were her parents i'd pay up for tuition, and that would be it unless she moved home.

That's the line of action I was thinking as well. Your education is covered. Everything else...... good luck.

They should pay her tuition to a public school to finish out High School and then call it a day.

 Ahtman wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:

 Rotary wrote:
So its a legally adult woman who is saying, please still treat me as a child by paying for everything, but don't actually be my parent and expect me to obey your rules.

If i were her parents i'd pay up for tuition, and that would be it unless she moved home.

That's the line of action I was thinking as well. Your education is covered. Everything else...... good luck.

They should pay her tuition to a public school to finish out High School and then call it a day.

And I believe taxes already take care of that, right? So they're good. She's free to move out at 18, she's an adult. I'm siding with the parents here. They pay taxes, she can go to public school. "You live in my house, you obey my rules" is a damn good parental/child law. The coddling that has started recently is doing far more damage to kids than tough love does.

Parents declare bankruptcy...

What about spouces who split and get loadsa money because they have come to expect a 'certain standard of living' or however the ruling goes.

I would suggest this is closer to the current case than some other suggestions.

And while "my house my rules" might work on children, at 18 that 'rule' becomes more of an agreement or a suggestion...

My roof, my rules is still in effect in my parents house, and I'm 40.
Of course, it's also in effect when they come to stay at my house.
And of course at 18 the rule, "If you don't like the rules, move out" comes into force.

I sincerely hope that this poor, neglected child's case is heard by the Court. And promptly laughed out.

Well the argument that they should pay until she graduates high school has some merit. Otherwise she's 18 so she has no claim at that point.

Someone want to step in here and blame liberal upbringing?

Of course, you can also cite perhaps a bit too much of watching Law and Order: Special Whining Unit

 whembly wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

 whembly wrote:


She's 18... grow up.

Good on the parents.

Who's still at school, which her parents appear to be stopping her from finishing. The fact that because of some disagreement over a boyfriend they are stoping paying for her schooling in the final year, where she is clearly doing well, makes me more to this than a simple teen hissy fit.

Doesn't matter... Mom & Dad are king, queen, ruler, dictator, whatever in their house.

Their rules.

Deal with it.

BS. There is a point at which rules become unreasonable and abusive. I'm not saying that is the case here. It may well be a spoilt brat having a teen hissy fit, but you also can't have a blanket "My house my rules". At some point it becomes abuse, at a point before that it becomes unreasonable. What if she was the subject of physical or psychological abuse and just wants to finish high school. There is only the barest information so it's impossible to say what the cause is. It could be either side at fault at the moment, but parents do not have absolute right to do as they wish.

For those not in the know, just because she's 18 and moved out, doesn't mean the parents aren't on the hook for her college/university.

In IL, a kid can sue her parents for paying for her college. It varies from State to State, but one of my co-workers is in that situation now. His daughter lives with his Ex, but sued him for tuition, noting that her mother didn't make enough to cover it. The kicker is, he would have gladly paid for community college, as she was by no means an honor student. However, she chose an expensive State school, and he's now on the hook to cover it.

 Steve steveson wrote:

BS. There is a point at which rules become unreasonable and abusive. I'm not saying that is the case here. It may well be a spoilt brat having a teen hissy fit, but you also can't have a blanket "My house my rules". At some point it becomes abuse, at a point before that it becomes unreasonable. What if she was the subject of physical or psychological abuse and just wants to finish high school. There is only the barest information so it's impossible to say what the cause is. It could be either side at fault at the moment, but parents do not have absolute right to do as they wish.

I'm guessing you are still a teenager or young adult living with your parents?

She's 18, if she doesn't like the rules then she can leave. She wants to enjoy all the benefits of having her parents paying for everything but doesn't wan't to obey their rules? Yeah, that is a clear sign of abuse right there, only she's the one doing it, not her parents.


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 kronk wrote:
For those not in the know, just because she's 18 and moved out, doesn't mean the parents aren't on the hook for her college/university.

In IL, a kid can sue her parents for paying for her college. It varies from State to State, but one of my co-workers is in that situation now. His daughter lives with his Ex, but sued him for tuition, noting that her mother didn't make enough to cover it. The kicker is, he would have gladly paid for community college, as she was by no means an honor student. However, she chose an expensive State school, and he's now on the hook to cover it.

The article kind of covers that. Apparently that is a situation that happens in divorce cases but doesn't really apply here because both parents are in agreement. Or at least that was what I took from the article in the OP.

 Steve steveson wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

 whembly wrote:


She's 18... grow up.

Good on the parents.

Who's still at school, which her parents appear to be stopping her from finishing. The fact that because of some disagreement over a boyfriend they are stoping paying for her schooling in the final year, where she is clearly doing well, makes me more to this than a simple teen hissy fit.

Doesn't matter... Mom & Dad are king, queen, ruler, dictator, whatever in their house.

Their rules.

Deal with it.

BS. There is a point at which rules become unreasonable and abusive. I'm not saying that is the case here. It may well be a spoilt brat having a teen hissy fit, but you also can't have a blanket "My house my rules". At some point it becomes abuse, at a point before that it becomes unreasonable. What if she was the subject of physical or psychological abuse and just wants to finish high school. There is only the barest information so it's impossible to say what the cause is. It could be either side at fault at the moment, but parents do not have absolute right to do as they wish.

If something illegal is occuring, bring it to the authority.

Otherwise, heil to the dictator of the house!

 kronk wrote:
For those not in the know, just because she's 18 and moved out, doesn't mean the parents aren't on the hook for her college/university.

In IL, a kid can sue her parents for paying for her college. It varies from State to State, but one of my co-workers is in that situation now. His daughter lives with his Ex, but sued him for tuition, noting that her mother didn't make enough to cover it. The kicker is, he would have gladly paid for community college, as she was by no means an honor student. However, she chose an expensive State school, and he's now on the hook to cover it.

Usually that only occurs if one parent is supporting. If neither is typically they are SOL.

Being I'm the sole cash machine for the Boy and his epic quest for the ideal everclear/water and coed combo now, I CAN VOUCH THAT IT DOESN'T WORK IN TEXAS.

 Frazzled wrote:

 kronk wrote:
For those not in the know, just because she's 18 and moved out, doesn't mean the parents aren't on the hook for her college/university.

In IL, a kid can sue her parents for paying for her college. It varies from State to State, but one of my co-workers is in that situation now. His daughter lives with his Ex, but sued him for tuition, noting that her mother didn't make enough to cover it. The kicker is, he would have gladly paid for community college, as she was by no means an honor student. However, she chose an expensive State school, and he's now on the hook to cover it.

Usually that only occurs if one parent is supporting. If neither is typically they are SOL.

I was just looking into it, and you seem to be right. The cases like the one I discussed are if the parents are divorced or separated or never married.

I can understand there are situations where they may be forced to make sure you get out of High School, but it seems strange to be forced to pay for college.

Why does the girl. Y'know, Finish as a public school. I mean Jesus girl. Life if about following rules of those who give you money? You think I like wearing pants to work everyday? NO. But I have to to because my work has a rule that says I have to wear pants everyday. Why do I listen? THEY GIVE ME MONEY.

 whembly wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

 whembly wrote:


She's 18... grow up.

Good on the parents.

Who's still at school, which her parents appear to be stopping her from finishing. The fact that because of some disagreement over a boyfriend they are stoping paying for her schooling in the final year, where she is clearly doing well, makes me more to this than a simple teen hissy fit.

Doesn't matter... Mom & Dad are king, queen, ruler, dictator, whatever in their house.

Their rules.

Deal with it.

BS. There is a point at which rules become unreasonable and abusive. I'm not saying that is the case here. It may well be a spoilt brat having a teen hissy fit, but you also can't have a blanket "My house my rules". At some point it becomes abuse, at a point before that it becomes unreasonable. What if she was the subject of physical or psychological abuse and just wants to finish high school. There is only the barest information so it's impossible to say what the cause is. It could be either side at fault at the moment, but parents do not have absolute right to do as they wish.

If something illegal is occuring, bring it to the authority.

Otherwise, heil to the dictator of the house!

Quite right. They're your parents. They clothe you, they shelter you, they pay for your every need. That means you either obey their rules of get out. If it is something illegal. than that's different, but a teenage girl's view on unreasonable rules is a little un-creditable. "They want me to be home at 9 and I have to do my homework before I can talk with my frineds! My parents are SoooOOoo unreasonable!"

Also, godwinned?

Are there no strip clubs in NJ?!!

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Are there no strip clubs in NJ?!!

Oh, don't worry, there are LOTS of strip clubs in New Jersey.

I thought that was where girls go to earn college money? That's the consensus my straw-poll came to.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I thought that was where girls go to earn college money? That's the consensus my straw-poll came to.

They're actually advertising jobs for that.

Not that there's anything wrong with that industry...

I know it's Fox but they're quoting a newspaper..
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/04/new-jersey-teen-sues-parents-for-support-claiming-was-kicked-out-home/

In my 20 years of practicing family law in New Jersey, I’ve never seen anything like this,” Brian Schwartz, chairman of the New Jersey Bar Association’s Family Law Section, told the newspaper.

New York law has this to say:

(c) When a youth under the age of 21, leaves home without parental consent and without "good cause," or refuses to obey the reasonable rules set by their parents, the young person may forfeit his/her claim to parental support. If the child leaves home because the conditions are unbearable, the parents may not be relieved of the obligation to support the young person. However, the young person may have to bring the parents to Family Court to obtain support in such cases.

Wow, 21....

It gets worse. Apparently there is no legal statute in NJ that emancipates 18 year olds (except in specific circumstances like marriage or joining the army or getting their own permanent residence) and so the courts have created case law that will probably mean these parents lose.

The time of the new kinder gentler approach of kid raising.....

 Jihadin wrote:
The time of the new kinder gentler approach of kid raising.....

This wouldn't have happened if her parents hadn't spared the rod!

 agnosto wrote:
I know it's Fox but they're quoting a newspaper..
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/04/new-jersey-teen-sues-parents-for-support-claiming-was-kicked-out-home/

In my 20 years of practicing family law in New Jersey, I’ve never seen anything like this,” Brian Schwartz, chairman of the New Jersey Bar Association’s Family Law Section, told the newspaper.

New York law has this to say:

(c) When a youth under the age of 21, leaves home without parental consent and without "good cause," or refuses to obey the reasonable rules set by their parents, the young person may forfeit his/her claim to parental support. If the child leaves home because the conditions are unbearable, the parents may not be relieved of the obligation to support the young person. However, the young person may have to bring the parents to Family Court to obtain support in such cases.

Wow, 21....

It gets worse. Apparently there is no legal statute in NJ that emancipates 18 year olds (except in specific circumstances like marriage or joining the army or getting their own permanent residence) and so the courts have created case law that will probably mean these parents lose.

Yeah, that's crazy. You are a legal adult at 18, but parents can still be on the hook for you. Whole new definition of Nanny State.

belt...spanking..power cord.hanger...rolled up newspaper...whew.those were the days

$20 for A's
$15 for B's..

Saturday morning cartoons
Kung Fu Action Theater on Saturday

 Jihadin wrote:
belt...spanking..power cord.hanger...rolled up newspaper...whew.those were the days

$20 for A's
$15 for B's..

Saturday morning cartoons
Kung Fu Action Theater on Saturday

My parents never used anything other then their open hands. Had one baby sitter who'd beat me with various tools... I hope she died of cancer.