Switch Theme:

■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in gb
Oberstleutnant





Back in the English morass

If only I still played Fantasy.

Looks pretty good so far, my only issue is that the sample 'Knight' looks out of proportion (I think his forearms are too long).

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog 
   
Made in us
Serious Squig Herder






Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.

Also in the FAQ on the bases:
" Bases will be compatible with motion bases aswell. "

What are motion bases? Is that a fancy term for "movement tray?"

And it looks like the first 3 regiments are unlock from the get go, and the 75k "goal" actually just unlocks the first stretch goal? - So maybe the goal should just be "allow us to produce these first 4 regiments." And then stretch goals from there.

Looking very good overall though. Excited to see how this works out and how the game expands in the future.
*cough* make dwarves next *cough*
   
Made in es
Fresh-Faced New User





Schmapdi wrote:
Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.

Also in the FAQ on the bases:
" Bases will be compatible with motion bases aswell. "

What are motion bases? Is that a fancy term for "movement tray?"

And it looks like the first 3 regiments are unlock from the get go, and the 75k "goal" actually just unlocks the first stretch goal? - So maybe the goal should just be "allow us to produce these first 4 regiments." And then stretch goals from there.

Looking very good overall though. Excited to see how this works out and how the game expands in the future.
*cough* make dwarves next *cough*


Hi Schmapdi, yes its usually called movement tray, we will change it back to this therm to avoid any confusion.

btw could you attach me a screenshot to see the spacing in the reward levels ? I see it this way:


please tell me if you see it different. Thanks in advance.


 Palindrome wrote:
If only I still played Fantasy.

Looks pretty good so far, my only issue is that the sample 'Knight' looks out of proportion (I think his forearms are too long).


Hi Palindrome, I can assure you that its not out of proportion, I uploaded a video of this exact model for you so you can check by yourself: https://vimeo.com/89806955

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2014/03/22 22:38:30


 
   
Made in us
Brutal Black Orc




The Empire State

How much would the box of 10 knights cost at retail after the kickstarter?


 
   
Made in gb
Stone Bonkers Fabricator General




We'll find out soon enough eh.

 AlexHolker wrote:
I'm just going to point out that if you pay $80 plus shipping a year in advance, you can get 25 infantry and a cannon.

Or, if you pay $80 with free shipping, you can get 80 infantry and 12 knights.


Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.

Butting into someone's KS thread to advertise a different company is just really bad form.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/22 22:52:54


I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller





Cymru

Any chance of a size comparison pic vs some of the other fantasy miniature producers?

My P&M Shenanigans (40k mostly atm)

Diary of a Inquisitor (Other Sci fi in 40k fluff and Pics)
 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
.







This does seem to be a bit on the pricey side though, unless I'm missing something?

I really like the look of the miniatures though...
   
Made in de
Regular Dakkanaut





Please explain me something. How is it possible if the company is based in Spain, the shiiping cost to Europe to be higher than USA and Canada?
This is really some kind of paradox...
   
Made in au
Incorporating Wet-Blending






Australia

 Yodhrin wrote:
 AlexHolker wrote:
I'm just going to point out that if you pay $80 plus shipping a year in advance, you can get 25 infantry and a cannon.

Or, if you pay $80 with free shipping, you can get 80 infantry and 12 knights.

Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.

Because they're the same scale and three times as expensive. If anyone doesn't think that giving a medieval man a different outfit is worth tripling the price a year in advance, directing them to Perry Miniatures might be appreciated.

 corgan wrote:
Please explain me something. How is it possible if the company is based in Spain, the shiiping cost to Europe to be higher than USA and Canada?
This is really some kind of paradox...

Coolminiornot is handling their US shipping, maybe that's it?

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis 
   
Made in us
Serious Squig Herder






 Haste Games wrote:
Schmapdi wrote:
Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.


Hi Schmapdi, yes its usually called movement tray, we will change it back to this therm to avoid any confusion.

btw could you attach me a screenshot to see the spacing in the reward levels ? I see it this way:

please tell me if you see it different. Thanks in advance.




Sure - it looks like this:
Spoiler:


That's just in IE 11 though, checked it in Chrome and it seems fine there. Though none of the other, many kickstarters I've viewed have had this issue. So I'm not sure what the problem could be?
   
Made in au
Incorporating Wet-Blending






Australia

Schmapdi wrote:
That's just in IE 11 though, checked it in Chrome and it seems fine there. Though none of the other, many kickstarters I've viewed have had this issue. So I'm not sure what the problem could be?

The problem is that they used spaces instead of a line break, as you can see here:

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/22 23:31:31


"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis 
   
Made in gb
Stone Bonkers Fabricator General




We'll find out soon enough eh.

 AlexHolker wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
 AlexHolker wrote:
I'm just going to point out that if you pay $80 plus shipping a year in advance, you can get 25 infantry and a cannon.

Or, if you pay $80 with free shipping, you can get 80 infantry and 12 knights.

Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.

Because they're the same scale and three times as expensive. If anyone doesn't think that giving a medieval man a different outfit is worth tripling the price a year in advance, directing them to Perry Miniatures might be appreciated.


They're not the same scale at all, and if you don't fancy the product you can feel free to not back the KS. How would you like it if you were trying to start a business and some numpty stood outside telling all your potential new customers to go shop down the road at the guy that sells a cheapo version of your product? Justify it all you like, you're pulling a move and you know it.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
Made in es
Fresh-Faced New User





Piston Honda wrote:How much would the box of 10 knights cost at retail after the kickstarter?


I think it will be around $28 but we will try to lower it as much possible as we can, anyways you can expect free rewards apart from what you are backing

JoeRugby wrote:Any chance of a size comparison pic vs some of the other fantasy miniature producers?

We will show comparison pics showing measurements.

Alpharius wrote:This does seem to be a bit on the pricey side though, unless I'm missing something?

I really like the look of the miniatures though...

Having two-thirds of the regiments locked may lead to confusion. There are regiments composed of 10,15 and 20 units. You can select which regiments you want.
Anyways, we can't give huge discounts at the beginning but once we get a healthy pledge we will give discounts in form of free boxes or single units.

btw, we added extra units to some regiments since some people were complaining, so we are doing our best about that.

corgan wrote:Please explain me something. How is it possible if the company is based in Spain, the shiiping cost to Europe to be higher than USA and Canada?
This is really some kind of paradox...

Its because the deal that CMON offered to us but we will reduce the price to $12 same as UK to not have anyone discontent, I think its the maximum we can adjust right now. Its not the same pricing at the beginning than if all regiments would be unlocked already because all mold production would be assured and we could give discounts to everybody in an equitative way or even free boxes ( which its what we have planned to do once all regiments are unlocked )

Schmapdi wrote:
 Haste Games wrote:
Schmapdi wrote:
Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.


Hi Schmapdi, yes its usually called movement tray, we will change it back to this therm to avoid any confusion.

btw could you attach me a screenshot to see the spacing in the reward levels ? I see it this way:

please tell me if you see it different. Thanks in advance.

We will show pictures showing measurements.


Sure - it looks like this:
Spoiler:


That's just in IE 11 though, checked it in Chrome and it seems fine there. Though none of the other, many kickstarters I've viewed have had this issue. So I'm not sure what the problem could be?


Thanks, I corrected it, please tell me if now is fine for you, hope so.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/23 00:05:01


 
   
Made in de
Regular Dakkanaut





 Haste Games wrote:
Piston Honda wrote:How much would the box of 10 knights cost at retail after the kickstarter?


I think it will be around $28 but we will try to lower it as much possible as we can, anyways you can expect free rewards apart from what you are backing

JoeRugby wrote:Any chance of a size comparison pic vs some of the other fantasy miniature producers?

We will show comparison pics showing measurements.

Alpharius wrote:This does seem to be a bit on the pricey side though, unless I'm missing something?

I really like the look of the miniatures though...

Having two-thirds of the regiments locked may lead to confusion. There are regiments composed of 10,15 and 20 units. You can select which regiments you want.
Anyways, we can't give huge discounts at the beginning but once we get a healthy pledge we will give discounts in form of free boxes or single units.

btw, we added extra units to some regiments since some people were complaining, so we are doing our best about that.

corgan wrote:Please explain me something. How is it possible if the company is based in Spain, the shiiping cost to Europe to be higher than USA and Canada?
This is really some kind of paradox...

Its because the deal that CMON offered to us but we will reduce the price to $12 same as UK to not have anyone discontent, I think its the maximum we can adjust right now. Its not the same pricing at the beginning than if all regiments would be unlocked already because all mold production would be assured and we could give discounts to everybody in an equitative way or even free boxes ( which its what we have planned to do once all regiments are unlocked )

Schmapdi wrote:
 Haste Games wrote:
Schmapdi wrote:
Need to fix the spacing on the reward levels - looks bad, hard to read.


Hi Schmapdi, yes its usually called movement tray, we will change it back to this therm to avoid any confusion.

btw could you attach me a screenshot to see the spacing in the reward levels ? I see it this way:

please tell me if you see it different. Thanks in advance.

We will show pictures showing measurements.


Sure - it looks like this:
Spoiler:


That's just in IE 11 though, checked it in Chrome and it seems fine there. Though none of the other, many kickstarters I've viewed have had this issue. So I'm not sure what the problem could be?


Thanks, I corrected it, please tell me if now is fine for you, hope so.


Thanks for the explanation on the shipping costs and your efforts of reducing prices and add to the regiments.
May I ask the exact time of the launch of the KS?
Cheers
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut






 Yodhrin wrote:
 AlexHolker wrote:
I'm just going to point out that if you pay $80 plus shipping a year in advance, you can get 25 infantry and a cannon.

Or, if you pay $80 with free shipping, you can get 80 infantry and 12 knights.


Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.

Butting into someone's KS thread to advertise a different company is just really bad form.


Exactly, and I must say that it seem like those mini are miles better than the perry's one, so I can live with the price

lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039 
   
Made in se
Regular Dakkanaut




Uppsala, Sweden

I really dig the look of these minis, and would like a few for use in my RPGing (mostly Warhammer Fantasy RPG). The KS campaign seems extremely focused on building armies, though, so it doesn't really look like it will suit my interests. Or will there be some way of picking up anything less than 15 of that swordsman (for example)?

I also think the target goals look really, really high. $75K to fund the first three regiments and $375K to unlock all nine regiments are pretty big numbers when it comes to miniature KS's. It may very well cost that much to produce them, I just worry that the demand will not be that great, however nice the minis.
   
Made in es
Fresh-Faced New User





We have reduced all prices, don't see this as a weak movement by us. Now it will be harder for you guys to unlock all the regiments since the price value of plastic injection molds doesn't change. Its just because we received too many complaints about price.


 Trodax wrote:
I really dig the look of these minis, and would like a few for use in my RPGing (mostly Warhammer Fantasy RPG). The KS campaign seems extremely focused on building armies, though, so it doesn't really look like it will suit my interests. Or will there be some way of picking up anything less than 15 of that swordsman (for example)?

I also think the target goals look really, really high. $75K to fund the first three regiments and $375K to unlock all nine regiments are pretty big numbers when it comes to miniature KS's. It may very well cost that much to produce them, I just worry that the demand will not be that great, however nice the minis.


There will be lots of single fantasy units. Some of the regiments are less than 15 units anyways.

$75k for plastic injection molds for 3 regiments is half the price we would need, considering that we will invest $75k from our own budget it turns to be quite cheap.


@corgan:

16:00 for Germany

This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2014/03/23 00:53:04


 
   
Made in us
Brutal Black Orc




The Empire State

 Haste Games wrote:
Piston Honda wrote:How much would the box of 10 knights cost at retail after the kickstarter?


I think it will be around $28 but we will try to lower it as much possible as we can, anyways you can expect free rewards apart from what you are backing

[


Thanks.

That seems like a fair price.

Comparing it to various other models/games

War games Factory Zombie Survivors - 22.00 for 30 figures (00.74 a pop)

GW Greatswords - 41.25 for 10 figures (4.10 a pop)

Mantic Games BASILEAN PALADINS 24.73 for 10 (2.47 a pop)

Perry Miniatures War of the Roses Mercs - 40 figures for 33.00 (00.83 a pop)

AoW Dwarf gunners 12 figures for 53.80 (4.48 a pop)
AoW Berserkers 20 figures for 50.00 (2.50 a pop)

Haste Games Empire Knights 10 figures for 28.00 (2.80 a pop)

Note: Prices are from the company's website and not a discount place. Other things that may or may not be a factor for you in regards to the prices of various models from companies I posted.

Material made of
Level of customization
Quality of sculpt
*Insert something else here

Did my best in comparing the price of a box of multiple plastic figures from several companies. GW's greatswrds and Mantics Paladins would be the best comparison IMO. Cheaper than GW. a Few pennies more than Mantic.

 
   
Made in us
Stoic Grail Knight





Central Cimmeria

 AlexHolker wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
 AlexHolker wrote:
I'm just going to point out that if you pay $80 plus shipping a year in advance, you can get 25 infantry and a cannon.

Or, if you pay $80 with free shipping, you can get 80 infantry and 12 knights.

Seriously, why does somebody always have to try and crap over new companies with this "hurr durr just buy Perryz" line? The Perry's stuff is a completely different scale, and Haste's stuff has a different aesthetic.

Because they're the same scale and three times as expensive. If anyone doesn't think that giving a medieval man a different outfit is worth tripling the price a year in advance, directing them to Perry Miniatures might be appreciated.



An outfit change and a scale change. Scale and compatibility is important. The Perry WOTR stuff looks tiny on the table compared to anything else in the Warhammer universe, and most other fantasy miniatures.
   
Made in us
Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?





Fort Worth, TX

Maybe I missed it, but who will be making the actual plastics?

"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me."
- Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks 
   
Made in es
Fresh-Faced New User





 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Maybe I missed it, but who will be making the actual plastics?


Hi Tannhauser42, plastics will be made by a manufacturer associated with Haste Games which has no relation with CMON
   
Made in us
Serious Squig Herder






 Haste Games wrote:


Thanks, I corrected it, please tell me if now is fine for you, hope so.


Yep - looks fine now!
   
Made in es
Fresh-Faced New User





Schmapdi wrote:
 Haste Games wrote:


Thanks, I corrected it, please tell me if now is fine for you, hope so.


Yep - looks fine now!


Cool, thanks
   
Made in us
Brutal Black Orc




The Empire State

Haste Games,

In your rules, will units be activated one by one alternating between players?

Or do players move and attack with their entire army? IGOUGO system.

 
   
Made in au
Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne





Melbourne .au

Looks very interesting. I like the aesthetic. I'll be keeping an eye on this, and I feel my Mercs pledge may be getting pulled also.

Haste Games, do you have any examples of the completed work from the plastic company that you will be using?

   
Made in gb
Oberstleutnant





Back in the English morass

 Gallahad wrote:

An outfit change and a scale change. Scale and compatibility is important. The Perry WOTR stuff looks tiny on the table compared to anything else in the Warhammer universe, and most other fantasy miniatures.


Which is a good thing considering that Humans tend to be smaller than most other fantasy races. I also prefer realistic proportions.

Its possible that these can be compatible with the Perry's WotR stuff though, Swordsmen are difficult to do with the Perry's stuff.

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog 
   
Made in gb
Novice Knight Errant Pilot






 Azazelx wrote:
Looks very interesting. I like the aesthetic. I'll be keeping an eye on this, and I feel my Mercs pledge may be getting pulled also.

Haste Games, do you have any examples of the completed work from the plastic company that you will be using?


I'd second the request for some examples of the plastic company's previous work. There have unfortunately been several companys who's models have been let down by poor production. Putting in a large pledge with a year to wait would be much easier if I could be reassured that the resulting models were not going to turn out to be plastic blobs on a sprue. Everything else looks good especially the style and proportions of the figures and I'll definitely consider the gold earlybird if you could avert these fears.


http://thelaughterofthedamned.blogspot.co.uk/
 
   
Made in es
Fresh-Faced New User





@Azazelx @edlowe

Hi guys, our mold manufacturer has worked for modelism companies, I uploaded a sample of their work:

Spoiler:


Hope this helps

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/23 11:28:01


 
   
Made in ca
Posts with Authority




I'm from the future. The future of space

That looks like the 1/72 Tiger model kit from Trumpeter. Here's an assembled version with a aftermarket barrel and a metal hatch handle added:



Am I right?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/03/23 13:34:03


Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
.







I don't know - but I knew the Detectives on Dakka Dakka would sort it out once a sprue pic was posted!
   
 
Forum Index » News & Rumors
Go to: