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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 20:29:06
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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I'm in for Gold atm
But I'm really on the fence.
I like the look and design of the first 3 unit types shown, but I'm probably not going to need that many fantasy humans. They would mostly be used if I find a great skirmish rule set or for RPGs (not big battle games)
I need to see a size comparison vs some of the other fantasy minis on the market. as always my collection is 28-30mm and if it doesn't fit I just won't get it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 22:29:24
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Looks like some of the sg could be moving a round, plus the war priests artworks been unveiled and he unlocks now at 250 backers not 1000.
sorry for the big pic!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 23:38:48
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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I've jumped in at the Gold level. Am very excited about this as the painted samples looks fantastic! If the details transfer over to hard plastic (I'm assuming the samples are some sort of resin prints?) then it puts another nail in the coffin of Hard Plastic can't achieve the same level of detail as resin or metal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 23:50:02
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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I think DFG and KD:M already nailed that coffin shut, for the most part!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 23:57:48
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Fresh-Faced New User
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We have adapted all the SG's, now with a 35k difference instead of 50k and the next regiment to unlock after the goal will be +15k only ( 90k in total ).
Regiments' unlock distribution has been adapted as well because of complainments about the risk to repeat cannon, now next regiment to unlock will be from group C, and all unit types are visible.
New update comming soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 23:58:48
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Looks nice, but a bit more historically accurate (grounded in reality?) than I can use.
Now if we start to see other races showing up, I may have to pull the trigger....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 00:03:17
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Updated stretch map.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 00:07:25
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 00:31:12
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Alpharius wrote:I think DFG and KD:M already nailed that coffin shut, for the most part! 
Not to mention products like Dark Vengeance and Space Hulk...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 00:47:28
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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@haste-games - how come you decided to go for a very large KS on your first foray into the market (I'm guessing this is the case from what you've said before)?
Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of you business model, but to me it would have made sense to use your first go to;
Get a footprint in the market - in my experience as a backer, people are more likely to give you money if they have an idea on what you've done before.
Get your first 2 units funded and made in hard plastic, have any stretch goals as resin ad dons/ characters for your line (or wave 2 units if sufficient funding is received)
This smaller batch will allow you better q&a control, and get something on the market sooner which can create a buzz (if done as well as the models prints/masters you've had painted) for a future large kickstarter to fill out your line.
Test and perfect your manufacturing and your relationship with your plastic caster. (And resin if that's outsourced too) -again only going by what you've said but your caster hasn't worked with you before. In any business relationship there will be teething troubles. Better to have these on a smaller scale than adding more stress to the relationship with a massive workload, looming deadlines.
Also getting to know what volumes/time frames your caster can actually work too rather than going by the dates and times they say.
P.s sorry for the poor spelling and grammar am sleepy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 02:17:08
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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How many people on your team are artists that work on the models? Both drawings and the 3D renders (or whatever you call them).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 02:24:52
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Aren't they doing that? The funding goal is for three hard plastic kits. The stretch goals are to fund additional waves of kits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 05:33:17
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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i rather hope this gets funded, it has nice potential
also, those halberd armed fellows have the potential to be a nice replacement for the steelhead halberdier mercs in warmachine
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 10:48:35
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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I like the look of The Empire, but I could never opt into a game that didn't have all its factions to choose from unless I was gonna use the models for something else. And since I don't play humans in any game I am playing at the moment...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 13:23:32
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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greenskin lynn wrote:i rather hope this gets funded, it has nice potential
also, those halberd armed fellows have the potential to be a nice replacement for the steelhead halberdier mercs in warmachine
I was thinking 30+ of the sword & shield guys would make a great core to a Cygnar infantry swarm. It'd be such a nice change from the goofy proportions of the existing sword knights.
Though I also really like the idea of a Capt Damiano list using these models. You have guys with firearms, halberds and cavalry if it hits 195K.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 13:29:59
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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How many different poses are there in each unit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 13:39:19
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi guys, We decided to add 5 extra units to heavy knights, 5 extra units to harquebusiers and 2 extra units to outriders.
So now Heavy knights will be a 15 units regiment, Harquebusiers 15 units and Outriders 10 units.
I will be answering all your questions asap.
It varies with each regiment but we implemented many poses for all pieces ( both arms and legs ), you can see an example in the third video of our kickstarter campaign.
For example, at Swordsmen regiment there are 4 different arms, each one comes with 4 different poses, except one them that comes with 3 different poses.
Then there is 2 different legs and they come with 5 different poses each.
Piston Honda wrote:How many people on your team are artists that work on the models? Both drawings and the 3D renders (or whatever you call them).
2 people of the team are in charge of 3D sculpt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 21:57:55
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Asked a few questions in comments:
Ed Lowe about 2 hours ago
1. How do the command pieces break down per sprue, for example with the 15 knights could you have 3 units of 5 with full command?
2. Are the bases provided similar to a well know brands? ( Gw)
3. Are the regiments supplied to ks backers boxed as per the retail release? (This doesn't bother me but if they would ship faster unboxed im sure some people maybe interested)
4. Could we hear a bit more about the game world you are creating, with more info on future races? ( I'll most likely be using them for Mantics Kings of War but it would be cool to try something different)
5. Could we have a bit more info on Haste Games? What your overall plan is, what games you play and maybe some links to the sculptor's previous work?
Thanks in advance! Remember plenty of updates keep us all interested and gives us more news to spread!
Ed Lowe about 2 hours ago
1 last thing, if you could do a graphic for the front page showing the maximum number of figures you could get at each pledge level it would be good to help people visualise what they could/will be getting. If you could show it with fully ranked up renders of each unit it would be really cool. Oh if you could show more renders of the comand too to really show off the units.
Thanks 
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Haste Games 15 minutes ago
@Ed Lowe: Answering your questions:
1. Yes, you can have 3 units and 5 with full command
2. Yes
3. Boxes will be supplied faster to backers
4. Future races will be another fantasy races, both tipycal races such as dwarfs, elfs, orcs, etc and other races of our own. Our world has a very dark background, a wild world where the good ones resist as they can the unstoppable advance of evil.
5. We would like to finish all our other factions asap but we would like to create fantasy games as videogames, not just miniatures.
6. Good idea, we will work on something like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 22:02:46
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Just posted a comparison picture:
20x20mm base square
JoeRugby wrote:@haste-games - how come you decided to go for a very large KS on your first foray into the market (I'm guessing this is the case from what you've said before)?
Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of you business model, but to me it would have made sense to use your first go to;
Get a footprint in the market - in my experience as a backer, people are more likely to give you money if they have an idea on what you've done before.
Get your first 2 units funded and made in hard plastic, have any stretch goals as resin ad dons/ characters for your line (or wave 2 units if sufficient funding is received)
This smaller batch will allow you better q&a control, and get something on the market sooner which can create a buzz (if done as well as the models prints/masters you've had painted) for a future large kickstarter to fill out your line.
Test and perfect your manufacturing and your relationship with your plastic caster. (And resin if that's outsourced too) -again only going by what you've said but your caster hasn't worked with you before. In any business relationship there will be teething troubles. Better to have these on a smaller scale than adding more stress to the relationship with a massive workload, looming deadlines.
Also getting to know what volumes/time frames your caster can actually work too rather than going by the dates and times they say.
P.s sorry for the poor spelling and grammar am sleepy
Hi Joe, very solid points, you are right in some of them but I can assure you that you are underating us quite a bit, I will answer you more extensively later on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 22:09:51
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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Haste Games wrote:Hi guys, We decided to add 5 extra units to heavy knights, 5 extra units to harquebusiers and 2 extra units to outriders.
So now Heavy knights will be a 15 units regiment, Harquebusiers 15 units and Outriders 10 units.
I would add this to the update.
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 22:26:02
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Haste Games wrote:Just posted a comparison picture:
20x20mm base square
JoeRugby wrote:@haste-games - how come you decided to go for a very large KS on your first foray into the market (I'm guessing this is the case from what you've said before)?
Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of you business model, but to me it would have made sense to use your first go to;
Get a footprint in the market - in my experience as a backer, people are more likely to give you money if they have an idea on what you've done before.
Get your first 2 units funded and made in hard plastic, have any stretch goals as resin ad dons/ characters for your line (or wave 2 units if sufficient funding is received)
This smaller batch will allow you better q&a control, and get something on the market sooner which can create a buzz (if done as well as the models prints/masters you've had painted) for a future large kickstarter to fill out your line.
Test and perfect your manufacturing and your relationship with your plastic caster. (And resin if that's outsourced too) -again only going by what you've said but your caster hasn't worked with you before. In any business relationship there will be teething troubles. Better to have these on a smaller scale than adding more stress to the relationship with a massive workload, looming deadlines.
Also getting to know what volumes/time frames your caster can actually work too rather than going by the dates and times they say.
P.s sorry for the poor spelling and grammar am sleepy
Hi Joe, very solid points, you are right in some of them but I can assure you that you are underating us quite a bit, I will answer you more extensively later on.
Where's the mini from?
Cool I look forward to it.
Please know i want you to succeed! I want to purchase your miniatures and I don't want some of the mistakes that other kickstarters have made to be repeated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 22:33:50
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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4. Future races will be another fantasy races, both tipycal races such as dwarfs, elfs, orcs, etc and other races of our own. Our world has a very dark background, a wild world where the good ones resist as they can the unstoppable advance of evil.
Are you going to do anything that Warhammer doesn't already have?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 22:38:21
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Fresh-Faced New User
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JoeRugby wrote: Haste Games wrote:Just posted a comparison picture:
20x20mm base square
JoeRugby wrote:@haste-games - how come you decided to go for a very large KS on your first foray into the market (I'm guessing this is the case from what you've said before)?
Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of you business model, but to me it would have made sense to use your first go to;
Get a footprint in the market - in my experience as a backer, people are more likely to give you money if they have an idea on what you've done before.
Get your first 2 units funded and made in hard plastic, have any stretch goals as resin ad dons/ characters for your line (or wave 2 units if sufficient funding is received)
This smaller batch will allow you better q&a control, and get something on the market sooner which can create a buzz (if done as well as the models prints/masters you've had painted) for a future large kickstarter to fill out your line.
Test and perfect your manufacturing and your relationship with your plastic caster. (And resin if that's outsourced too) -again only going by what you've said but your caster hasn't worked with you before. In any business relationship there will be teething troubles. Better to have these on a smaller scale than adding more stress to the relationship with a massive workload, looming deadlines.
Also getting to know what volumes/time frames your caster can actually work too rather than going by the dates and times they say.
P.s sorry for the poor spelling and grammar am sleepy
Hi Joe, very solid points, you are right in some of them but I can assure you that you are underating us quite a bit, I will answer you more extensively later on.
Where's the mini from?
Cool I look forward to it.
Please know i want you to succeed! I want to purchase your miniatures and I don't want some of the mistakes that other kickstarters have made to be repeated.
Inifnity  yeah don't get me wrong, I want to answer you as you deserve but we are working so much right now not just answering you guys in forums ( which would help us a lot if you help us to spread the word because we are working really hard in the design line ) and don't have so much time, we are preparing lot of content right now, even if we fail with this campaign our goal is to provide maximum quality in sculpts and plastics so we are doing our best all the time and this is very weary sometimes.
You guys can expect more updates, since lot of people compained about using renders in other proportions than the final result ( printed and painted minis ) we are preparing all regiments with the final renders apart from many other things
AlexHolker wrote:4. Future races will be another fantasy races, both tipycal races such as dwarfs, elfs, orcs, etc and other races of our own. Our world has a very dark background, a wild world where the good ones resist as they can the unstoppable advance of evil.
Are you going to do anything that Warhammer doesn't already have?
Definitely yes.  we are working actually on new races apart from the typical ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 22:51:09
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Haste Games wrote:
Hi Joe, very solid points, you are right in some of them but I can assure you that you are underating us quite a bit, I will answer you more extensively later on.
I really hope that this is the case because the miniaures look really promising and I am looking forward this project to be funded.
Let me tell you what I think is problematic. The higher the pledge the higher the numbers of the regiment boxes of each group. Let's say that the goal of 75k is achieved. Let's also assume that the amount of 90k is also achieved and the Harquebusier regiment box is unlocked. If the project doesn't go higher than 100k, which is a very good result for a first attempt (and I have no intention of underrating you here, I really hope that you get as high as possible), then four regiment boxes will be produced.
I see it very possible people seeing that the project will finalise close to 100k to reduce their pledge from let's say gold to silver level, by thinking that they don't need 3 regiments of swordsmen and heavy knights. Two of each would be enough, along with one cannon and one unit of harquebusiers.
I know that you lowered the stretch goals for every next regiment and you increased the number of heavy knoghts to 15, which both I find great, I just want to mention the issues that can be arise.
Automatically Appended Next Post: JoeRugby wrote:
Please know i want you to succeed! I want to purchase your miniatures and I don't want some of the mistakes that other kickstarters have made to be repeated.
Exactly! These are precisely my thoughts. I couldn't express it better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 23:15:38
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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AlexHolker wrote:4. Future races will be another fantasy races, both tipycal races such as dwarfs, elfs, orcs, etc and other races of our own. Our world has a very dark background, a wild world where the good ones resist as they can the unstoppable advance of evil.
Are you going to do anything that Warhammer doesn't already have?
In red.
Edit:
I would love to see a Human fantasy race that looked more Viking/Greyjoy-ish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/25 12:20:33
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Javier from Arsies Studio talks in his blog about our minis:
"From the beggining they catched my attention because their seriously and care they put on their product. They were always looking for perfection searching for advices and testing those things I told them that they thought could be good to improve their miniatures. Proof of that are some changes they introduced in the original models to make cast and paintingjob easier."
http://arsiesweb.com/2014/03/haste-games-empire-kickstarter.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/25 14:29:49
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Basecoated Black
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I'm in. Only for $1 at the moment as I'm selling some Mantic stuff off - but when that's gone I'm hoping to up to at least Bronze level to start a new Kingdoms of Men force for Kings Of War.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/25 14:53:21
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Been Around the Block
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Great models and i wish you guys luck. Just you really, REALLY should have picked a name that wasn't "The Empire" for a fantasy human army :s.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/25 15:04:14
Subject: ■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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JP1138 wrote:I'm in. Only for $1 at the moment as I'm selling some Mantic stuff off - but when that's gone I'm hoping to up to at least Bronze level to start a new Kingdoms of Men force for Kings Of War.
Ooh, what Mantic stuff - PM me!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/25 15:17:08
Subject: Re:■ Haste Games presents ' The Empire ' [March 23th, 2014 on Kickstarter] ----> LIVE NOW
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LordOfSmurfs wrote:Great models and i wish you guys luck. Just you really, REALLY should have picked a name that wasn't "The Empire" for a fantasy human army :s.
Ty, we will explain why this name in the background. btw, lot of people are complaining that we planned a whole faction so they don't know when next factions will be created and when the full game will be done.
We are preparing an adapted version of our rules so you guys can play empire vs empire. In any case, we are working already in another faction so it will be just provisional for those who backed for many regiments.
Automatically Appended Next Post: New update with 3 videos from Cannon regiment:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/haste/the-empire-28mm-heroic-scale-medieval-fantasy-huma/posts/789021
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