Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 12:46:46
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Agile Revenant Titan
|
Im attending a GT in June where everything is allowed. Anything.
Most people when they post how would you beat this list post there list assuming that nothing can beat it. This is different.
Sense this is for a GT, I could be facing any army. So tell me what list would counter this list best, and why.
Hq
farseer 100
spirirt seer 70
Troop
5 dire avengers (65) wave serpent with twin linked scatter laser, and shuiken cannon (130) 195
5 dire avengers (65) wave serpent with twin linked scatter laser, and shuiken cannon (130) 195
5 dire avengers (65) wave serpent with twin linked scatter laser, and shuiken cannon (130) 195
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
Lord of War(s)
Lynx (scatter laser) 330
Lynx (scatter laser) 330
Fortification(s)
Void relay network
2 void sheild generators, 3 extra void shields each, pipe relay network 240
2 void sheild generators, 3 extra void shields each, pipe relay network 240
Thats 2 super heavies, 3 wave serpents, and 12 void sheilds.
|
I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 12:55:45
Subject: Re:How would you beat this list
|
 |
Preacher of the Emperor
|
Revenant Titan. Jump 36 inside void shield range, drop 2 "D" templates on each Lynx, charge one of them if they survive.
I think you've also hit on the reason why I'll be playing the 1500 restricted version of that GT.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 13:02:59
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Agile Revenant Titan
|
Im pretty sure i could bubble wrap the inside of the sheild, as the wave serpents, lynxs, and rev titan are all such big models.
And i would put it as far back as possible, so in any type of deployment I could start more than 36 away from you
Oh and im doing this because i like a challenge
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/04/02 13:04:18
I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 13:53:56
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Foolproof Falcon Pilot
|
Pod armies may be a problem. You are depending on those void shields, but pods really dont care about them. A bunch of sternguard/Wolf Guard with meltas into the rear of a lynx does a pretty good job of killing it. Throw 2-3 pods dropping turn 1 and he could possibly kill 2 lynx turn 1, or at least cripple 1 and kill another. You have so many points in your shields, anything that can deal with that is going to have an easy time with you. admittedly, thats not a huge number of armies, but they do exist.
|
"Ask not the Eldar a question, for they will give you three answers, all of which are true and terrifying to know."
-Inquisitor Czevak
~14k
~10k
~5k corsairs
~3k DKOK |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 14:57:45
Subject: Re:How would you beat this list
|
 |
Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
Canada
|
sentinels of terra gunline with a warhound with inquisitor detachment.
id force you to cower in your corner until your shields are in pieces. from there its watching your army melt before the mighty strength D guns, conversion beam, and gunline
another one would be imperial guard armor rush.
chimeras, lemans, etc. id tank shock your army off the board. as your forced to move as a result of tank shock and if your penned in a corner that means off the board.
|
DA army: 3500pts,
admech army: 600pts
ravenguard: 565 pts
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 15:08:01
Subject: Re:How would you beat this list
|
 |
Rough Rider with Boomstick
|
*cough* whogoesfirstwins *cough*
Ever since D weapoms got introduced... thats all its been.
|
Resin Printer (minaitures) is a 4K printer with one of the largest build volumes available for a resin printer (192mm x 120mm x 245mm) with an amazing .01mm resolution! This professional printer is one of the best resin printers on the market!
FDM Printer (terrain) also has one of the largest build volumes available for an FDM printer (400mm x 400mm x 450mm) and has an amazing ,05mm build accuracy.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 16:51:39
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Preacher of the Emperor
|
ninjafiredragon wrote:Im pretty sure i could bubble wrap the inside of the sheild, as the wave serpents, lynxs, and rev titan are all such big models.
And i would put it as far back as possible, so in any type of deployment I could start more than 36 away from you
Oh and im doing this because i like a challenge
But remember the titan only has to get a toe inside twelve to negate the effects of the shield generator. So essentially you'd have to have the void shield generator 48 inches away from the titan. If you disperse, you risk the revenant getting inside a shield which you now have to shoot through. As someone else said, I think the 2000 point GT at Texasgamescon will come down to "Who goes first?" followed by "Who rolled the least amount of 1s?"
P.S. You might as well put Coteaz in there so you can reroll your 5+ seize and force your opponent to reroll his.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/02 16:52:13
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 16:57:35
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Agile Revenant Titan
|
zephoid wrote:Pod armies may be a problem. You are depending on those void shields, but pods really dont care about them. A bunch of sternguard/Wolf Guard with meltas into the rear of a lynx does a pretty good job of killing it. Throw 2-3 pods dropping turn 1 and he could possibly kill 2 lynx turn 1, or at least cripple 1 and kill another. You have so many points in your shields, anything that can deal with that is going to have an easy time with you. admittedly, thats not a huge number of armies, but they do exist.
I think reserving the lynxs then coming in far away from the sterguard would help.
ionusx wrote:sentinels of terra gunline with a warhound with inquisitor detachment.
id force you to cower in your corner until your shields are in pieces. from there its watching your army melt before the mighty strength D guns, conversion beam, and gunline
another one would be imperial guard armor rush.
chimeras, lemans, etc. id tank shock your army off the board. as your forced to move as a result of tank shock and if your penned in a corner that means off the board.
This im actually not that scared of. If you can crack 12 void sheilds, and then 12 more hull points off lynxs (which means 24 hull points av 12) and half of those hull points have a 4+ invul save, then maybe id have a problem. But i dont see that happening. And then id throw 4 large blast strength D at you, crippilling your army.
And your tank rush really doesnt work as i can become a flier and zoom to the other side of the board, then agian, shoot you with the D
|
I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 17:42:02
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
|
This list is purely designed to take out your list (due to the title).
Going to put this in units rather than force org to make it simpler to read (3 royal courts each with 4 stormteks, and a veiltek, 1 court with 4 stormteks, a veiltek and a lord)
Unit 1
4 overlords with staff of light, mss, and weave. 1 with res orb.
Necron lord with staff of light and mss.
5 warriors.
Nightscythe
This unit will not disembark until all the D weapons are gone. Due to the lord the majority T is 5. May let 3 or 4 warriors fall to shooting to ensure it stays that way. Afterwards the overlords are all t5 2+ with a 4+ everliving/rp roll. No one will want to charge it due to 5 mss tests. 15 st5 ap3 and 10 gauss shots a turn before casualties. It is a result of needing somewhere to put the overlords.
Unit 2 & 3 & 4.
3 stormteks
5 warriors
Nightscythe
These units drop where needed (inside the void shields) and wreck your mech. Stormteks are also pretty good against the troops inside too as 12 st5 shots combined with the gauss is not to be sniffed at.
Unit 5 & 6 & 7 & 8
2 stormteks
1 despairtek with veil
These units start hidden on the board and deepstrike inside the void shields to haywire your mech into oblivion.
3 scarab bases
Agies with comms
This unit hides behind the ADL out of LOS and makes it pretty certain the flyers all arrive turn 2 to gut all the mech.
Lets not forget the 4 tl tesla destructors on the scythes either.
Not an all rounder list but it destroys superheavies and mech spams.
Edit: iv'e ended up with 21 crypteks. Would drop a cryptek from a scythe squad, and get 2 cloaks of darkness.
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/04/02 17:50:41
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 17:44:53
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
|
If you bubble wrap inside the Void Shield, Blast weapons will take down the shields like candy. 5 hits on infantry = 5 dead shields.
And if you put your Lynx's in reserve, that A. Means they have less time to fire and B. doesn't prevent a Drop Pod assault army. They can wait in reserves too. (And, while you're not on board, taking down Void Shield Generators can become a priority.)
Lastly... Your list is a huge glass cannon. 12 Hull Points isn't a lot. Any army that can outmanuever you and survive a couple turns of firepower has you beat. Without the Lynx, you're screwed.
Also keep in mind that a mean opponent could bring a Revenant, Lynx, 12 Void Shields, and mininal everything else. Your list, but worse.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 17:50:02
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Agile Revenant Titan
|
Hrmm ok I see. Any recommendations?
|
I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 17:55:05
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
|
Void shields can be bypassed by crons and marines easily. However, other armies would struggle to bypass them I feel. You should be safe with the shields against other dexes.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 18:57:12
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Fresh-Faced New User
Mississauga
|
Void Relay Network gives you access to three generators total, how do you get the second network and the second LoW? Does take anything literally mean ignore the FoC?
|
More than two Riptides; live in your mother's basement. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 18:58:01
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
|
Markerlight Junkie wrote:Void Relay Network gives you access to three generators total, how do you get the second network and the second LoW? Does take anything literally mean ignore the FoC?
2000 point game, I believe. Double FOC.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 19:15:10
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Preacher of the Emperor
|
Waaaghpower wrote: Markerlight Junkie wrote:Void Relay Network gives you access to three generators total, how do you get the second network and the second LoW? Does take anything literally mean ignore the FoC?
2000 point game, I believe. Double FOC.
Bingo. The Texasgamescon 2000 point GT is double force org, anything goes. FW, Lords of War, Stronghold Assault, data slates, literally everything. They are also offering a 1500 point restricted GT.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 19:54:00
Subject: Re:How would you beat this list
|
 |
Gangly Grot Rebel
Scotland
|
60 scouting Space Marines on bikes. melta's everywhere.
|
I'm a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 19:56:21
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
|
Looks good...... You could probably get tabled pretty easily though. Lucarikx
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/02 20:00:44
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/02 22:23:24
Subject: How would you beat this list
|
 |
Agile Revenant Titan
|
Lucarikx wrote:Looks good...... You could probably get tabled pretty easily though.
Lucarikx
Then how is it good XD
|
I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
|
 |
 |
|