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This would be a better thing if this was given out free to those who subscribed to X months of the weekly White Dwarf. I know not to expect free things but like anything else GW does they do it by their own consent and all I can do is vote with my wallet.

Why this product gets so much hate is far beyond what I can understand. If you have WD issues then this binder puts them in a single safe place instead of some place the'll just get destroyed if left. It's also looks cool. It's actually a really good product .

I'm actually surprised this thing got its own thread; I saw it up the other week but thought it wouldn't garner enough responses to merit me posting a thread (not an insult against you OP).

A binder is a binder is a binder. It's not bad looking, though as a GW product it is unreasonably expensive.

But this is just GW catering to people who clamor towards anything that has their logo on it. Somehow, someone will buy this, in large enough quantities that the execs will say "profit margins on the faux-leather binders are above expected levels. We recommend making codex protectors out of the same material and charging $30 per book." And again, someone will buy them.

Or at least I imagine so. Until some point, when those someones diminish enough in number when the product hits a threshold Then GW may take the information into account for future faux leather releases.

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 WarOne wrote:
This would be a better thing if this was given out free to those who subscribed to X months of the weekly White Dwarf. I know not to expect free things but like anything else GW does they do it by their own consent and all I can do is vote with my wallet.

This would be a good idea. Certainly could be something like "Buy a year's subscription, get this one-of-a-kind binder!"

£10 for a binder is within the realms of what others charge, its normally £7 or so plus some postage.

The problem is its for the wrong book. White dwarf weekly is the cheap weekly advert, if you bought it every week AND wanted them all in binders, its £40 a year to store the magazines.

Meanwhile, the coffee table artbook that costs £7 a pop and only has 12 issues a year, that one doesnt get a binder.

£10 to protect a years worth of collectable books makes sense. This doesnt really.

Sorry I was late for the Morning Hate, Mr Smith, it won't happen again.

GW boo!

Actually it is a bit tacky.

NoggintheNog wrote:
£10 for a binder is within the realms of what others charge, its normally £7 or so plus some postage.

The problem is its for the wrong book. White dwarf weekly is the cheap weekly advert, if you bought it every week AND wanted them all in binders, its £40 a year to store the magazines.

Meanwhile, the coffee table artbook that costs £7 a pop and only has 12 issues a year, that one doesnt get a binder.

£10 to protect a years worth of collectable books makes sense. This doesnt really.

The binder idea is not bad but they need content to fill them. I hope it is custom fit for other GW books.

 n0t_u wrote:
Oh wow! It looks just like those stereotypical law books you might find in prestigious offices! This has to be the finest quality binder I've ever seen. I don't get the WD weeklys, but I could use something this classy to hold my digital editions. I just need to figure out how to put the holes in the iPads without wrecking the screen...

+1! This was funny

Better grab them now, because they are probably LE and just didn't say anything yet...

 Foda_Bett wrote:
The hate is strong with this thread.
Honestly if this held 1 year of old white dwarfs I'd pick up a few of them to hold my hundreds of back issues I've been scanning.
Also other companies make moldline scrapers so I think there is a point to them.

The reason for the "hate" is because you're paying about a 300%+ markup over a similar product from an office store where the only difference is the White Dwarf logo.

Best Buy's website, for example, has a 3" chord binder listed for $3.89.

 WarOne wrote:
To be fair, I'd wait for a review about the binder to tell us if the older books can be held within and not just the newer books.

It would be like GW for them to do that rather than make it inclusive for all books.

It will not hold old books - you can see from the photos that the method they're using will only work with the staple-bound books.

 WarOne wrote:
This would be a better thing if this was given out free to those who subscribed to X months of the weekly White Dwarf. I know not to expect free things but like anything else GW does they do it by their own consent and all I can do is vote with my wallet.

I agree. This binder is the kind of thing that should be the "Free Gift" that comes with a subscription, not something extra to purchase.


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NoggintheNog wrote:
£10 for a binder is within the realms of what others charge, its normally £7 or so plus some postage.

Do office stores in Great Britain really charge that much for a chord binder? What's up with the markup? They're less than $5 in the USA (or between 2-3 pounds).

thenoobbomb wrote:What's so wrong with this? Many publishers of magazines do this (and some of those have prices as high as that, too).


Oh. Wait. This is GW we're talking about, right? Outrageous! What a scam!

You're right, this is completely a non-news item and doesn't really need to get a special mention. Most magazines have a similar type of item on sale, Wargames Illustrated if we are focusing on this industry only.

But, as it's here it gives 'fans' a chance to vent, something denied to them by the lack of customer contact points in other areas (facebook, twitter, official forums etc. )

His Master's Voice wrote:

 Krellnus wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
What's so wrong with this? Many publishers of magazines do this (and some of those have prices as high as that, too).


Oh. Wait. This is GW we're talking about, right? Outrageous! What a scam!

Yes, but other publishers don't sell finealogues.

They do. Most magazines have zero meaningful content, WD is not some freak of nature in that regard. In fact, since it happens to have rules from time to time, it's actually a step up from your average popular science or celebrity rag.

In terms of within the same industry though, you should try Wargames Soldiers & Strategy. There is a good solid 2-3 hours of reading in each issue, and a lot of background/historical information also.

And actually, Wargames Illustrated is a good read as well.

I love the fact that I had a thread questioning the value of it before even the news and rumors thread was made. anyway most of the people who posted on that thread said it was better to just by one for a cheaper price elsewhere.

Pretty reasonably priced compared to similar products:

http://www.playbillsmartstore.com/neulplbiarqu.html

I think it's a cool idea. Easy storage. Looks nice.

Priced similarly to the Playmobil one? Yes I guess that is rather appropriate, considering what some of the recent releases look like..

 cincydooley wrote:
Pretty reasonably priced compared to similar products:

http://www.playbillsmartstore.com/neulplbiarqu.html

I think it's a cool idea. Easy storage. Looks nice.

Wouldn't buy that one either.

It's two-four times the cost of a similar item from Officemax.

Saldiven wrote:

 WarOne wrote:
This would be a better thing if this was given out free to those who subscribed to X months of the weekly White Dwarf. I know not to expect free things but like anything else GW does they do it by their own consent and all I can do is vote with my wallet.

I agree. This binder is the kind of thing that should be the "Free Gift" that comes with a subscription, not something extra to purchase.

Meh. I can see your point but free subscription add-ons usually tend to be lower quality. I'll wait to see on for myself before I pass judgement on that. Still, I'm not the target audience for this. I've only bought one WD Weekly and that was so I could get the Knight rules without buying the codex. It'll be a long time before I have enough weeklies to fill a binder.

 Breotan wrote:

Saldiven wrote:

 WarOne wrote:
This would be a better thing if this was given out free to those who subscribed to X months of the weekly White Dwarf. I know not to expect free things but like anything else GW does they do it by their own consent and all I can do is vote with my wallet.

I agree. This binder is the kind of thing that should be the "Free Gift" that comes with a subscription, not something extra to purchase.

Meh. I can see your point but free subscription add-ons usually tend to be lower quality. I'll wait to see on for myself before I pass judgement on that. Still, I'm not the target audience for this. I've only bought one WD Weekly and that was so I could get the Knight rules without buying the codex. It'll be a long time before I have enough weeklies to fill a binder.

The reason I feel this way is one of value. Just because there's a White Dwarf logo on the front of thise one doesn't makey it five times the value of a comparable product you can get as a single item purchase from a local office supply store.

As for promo items gotten from magazine subscriptions, I've gotten some pretty decent stuff. I got some artifical fleece gloves from a running magazine subscription that had similar gloves retailing for $20.00 at the local running store. From Men's Health, I've gotten multiple books (like "Banish Your Belly" 10 years ago or the "Big Book of Exercise") as subscription rewards that have a posted retail value on the UPC of $30.00+, in some cases.

So, those experiences are why I think an item that really, honestly should retail in the sub-$10 range should have been given as a subscription promo.

As usefull as a DVD with last years daily weather forecast
If the WD content goes obsolete on release day (when preorder pics go up), why keep the copies and why pay 88$ to store just one year?

You guys can waste your money on this pathetic binder.....


....I'll wait for the Special Limited Edition Binder.

 Pacific wrote:
Priced similarly to the Playmobil one? Yes I guess that is rather appropriate, considering what some of the recent releases look like..

Try reading that brand name again. PlayBILL. It's the things you receive from the theatre when attending plays, operas, musicals, and the like.

That said, the Playbill one is also overpriced. You can get those mag/comic holders and a 3 ring binder much cheaper elsewhere.

 sing your life wrote:
Why this product gets so much hate is far beyond what I can understand.

Probably because it's not getting any 'hate'. What it's getting is people commenting that it's a mediocre offering, and/or overpriced.

'Hate' is far too readily used around here to describe any commentary that isn't overwhelmingly positive.



Personally, I think a binder for your mag collection is a good idea... But for a plain black binder with just a name stamped on it (no funky artwork, no way to track which issues are in it, nothing really to distinguish it from the sea of similar generic products) the price on this is nuts.

 insaniak wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
Why this product gets so much hate is far beyond what I can understand.

Probably because it's not getting any 'hate'. What it's getting is people commenting that it's a mediocre offering, and/or overpriced.

'Hate' is far too readily used around here to describe any commentary that isn't overwhelmingly positive.



Personally, I think a binder for your mag collection is a good idea... But for a plain black binder with just a name stamped on it (no funky artwork, no way to track which issues are in it, nothing really to distinguish it from the sea of similar generic products) the price on this is nuts.

This, if it had say, a nice embroided pick of The White Dwarf on it, then it may just be worth it, but if I really wanted to bind the weeklys, I would just pull the staples out, cut the page in half (so its all A4) and spiral bind it myself.

 insaniak wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
Why this product gets so much hate is far beyond what I can understand.

Probably because it's not getting any 'hate'. What it's getting is people commenting that it's a mediocre offering, and/or overpriced.

There is a line between legitimate criticism of a mediocre product, which this is, and things like this:

 n0t_u wrote:
Oh wow! It looks just like those stereotypical law books you might find in prestigious offices! This has to be the finest quality binder I've ever seen. I don't get the WD weeklys, but I could use something this classy to hold my digital editions. I just need to figure out how to put the holes in the iPads without wrecking the screen...

 Krellnus wrote:
Its a true finegift for your hobby companions.

 Krellnus wrote:
This has to be the best product ever released in GW's illustrious history.

 Krellnus wrote:
Yes, but other publishers don't sell finealogues.

 scarletsquig wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
What's so wrong with this?

Nothing at all. Every post in this thread has nothing but praise for this splendid binder.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Foda_Bett wrote:
The hate is strong with this thread.
Honestly if this held 1 year of old white dwarfs I'd pick up a few of them to hold my hundreds of back issues I've been scanning.
Also other companies make moldline scrapers so I think there is a point to them.

Then again, this is a thread about something GW. People are obliged to hate.

People are only obliged to hate when given something worth hating. GW delivers this regularly.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
There is a line between legitimate criticism of a mediocre product, which this is, and things like this:

And a very large divide between 'hate' and 'ridicule'.

Saldiven wrote:
The reason for the "hate" is because you're paying about a 300%+ markup over a similar product from an office store where the only difference is the White Dwarf logo.

Best Buy's website, for example, has a 3" chord binder listed for $3.89.

Do you have a link? I couldn't find it. Nor at OfficeMax. I can find cords, and binders, but not corded binders.

 -Loki- wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Foda_Bett wrote:
The hate is strong with this thread.
Honestly if this held 1 year of old white dwarfs I'd pick up a few of them to hold my hundreds of back issues I've been scanning.
Also other companies make moldline scrapers so I think there is a point to them.

Then again, this is a thread about something GW. People are obliged to hate.

People are only obliged to hate when given something worth hating. GW delivers this regularly.

I'm pretty sure most of what gets labelled GW hate here isn't actually hate anyways; a lot of it is actually just joking around. Not to say the hate doesn't exist, but it doesn't even make up half of those posts anyway.


And to stay on topic, it's already listed as temporarily out of stock now; at least in Aus.

 sing your life wrote:
Why this product gets so much hate is far beyond what I can understand. If you have WD issues then this binder puts them in a single safe place instead of some place the'll just get destroyed if left. It's also looks cool. It's actually a really good product .

You're so right bro

I just bought one, I'm going to put all of my coveted White Dwarf magz in there. After all, it only costs as much as 5 issues of White Dwarf. This way the roving bands of magazine smashing marauders running around my house won't "destroy" all of my precious White Dwarf issues.