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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:31:28
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I have some in-box space slann that I want to add to my collection (I did not own either of these two previously) but they are still in their 1987 box. I want to paint them so bad, but I don't want my 40 year old self to hate my past self because he can't sell them for hundreds of dollars. Can someone who is more venerable about this stuff give me some insight? Also I have two genestealer patriarchs in the same situation, I don't want to paint them now, but once I have amassed enough hybrids and get the last missing magus model I don't know if I will be able to help myself.
Will I hate my self 20 years from now if I open the boxes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/15 19:39:29
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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I'd hate myself for no using them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:40:34
Subject: Re:Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
The Village Hidden in Bureaucracy
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Open them up. Paint them. Use them in games. It's why you have them in the first place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:42:15
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Certain my make a unique army, I have 1987-1989 tterminaitors ands they look so good!
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:42:25
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Nope, assembel, paint and play with them. Enjoyment will soon follow
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:44:07
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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I have some in-box space slann that I want to add to my collection (I did not own either of these two previously) but they are still in their 1987 box. I want to paint them so bad, but I don't want my 40 year old self to hate my past self because he can't sell them for hundreds of dollars. Can someone who is more venerable about this stuff give me some insight? Also I have two genestealer patriarchs in the same situation, I don't want to paint them now, but once I have amassed enough hybrids and get the last missing magus model I don't know if I will be able to help myself.
Will I hate my self 20 years from now if I open the boxes?
Depends on how old you are now. If you're in your 20s (or younger), the odds of a Slaan miniature being valued at hundreds of dollars twenty years from now are... pretty slim. The odds of them being valued at hundreds of dollars now are likewise slim, as they're not worth much more than 20 GBP now, and 40K is still around. 20 years from now? GW will probably be out of business and the IP in the hands of someone else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:44:09
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Preceptor
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I've sold some vintage stuff recently, and I can tell you that no matter what state it's in -- NIB, primed, painted, etc. -- it still sells for a pretty penny. So maybe you'll lose some value by opening it, but as long as you keep the models in decent shape, they should still retain the majority of their value.
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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:44:52
Subject: Re:Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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PaperworkNinja wrote:Open them up. Paint them. Use them in games. It's why you have them in the first place.
So many times this. I can't stand people who buy up collectable stuff and sit on it "because it's collectable".
Every time I go to a car show and see some beautifully tuned sports car from the 60s get wheeled off its trailer into the display spot my heart shrivels up a little. You know the owner never actually drives it. What's the point?
Tangent aside, models are made for assembling and playing with. Assemble and play with them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:46:30
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Abhorrent Grotesque Aberration
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If it helps... look around ebay at old models still in the blister. I'm pretty sure *none* of them are selling for "hundreds of dollars". Even IF they would be worth that, the value of assembling, painting and playing them would far outweigh any potential resale value. Especially if you've had to move them around a few times while they sat in a box at the bottom of a closet year after year. During which time your future wife / significant other asks why you still have that box "of junk" and wouldn't it be better to get rid of your "toys" so she could use that space for something more important...like shoes. For perspective, I'm in my 40s.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:46:32
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Its never going to reach black lotus value of vintage
at most 50-100ish ever.
You might as well paint and use it. most people with jobs can deal with a 50-100 loss.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:46:33
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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If I wanted to make investments, I’d talk to a stock broker. If I want to have fun with toys/games/hobby stuff, I’ll buy minis. If you are treating it like an investment, that’s fine. Just keep that frame of mind. The NIB minis are just like stocks and bonds, they just look cooler and the market is a bit wonky.
Resale value wasn’t on my mind when I was assembling my RTB01 marines. A sealed box of those might sell for a pretty penny today. But what I did get was 25 some odd years of fun with them. Even adjusted for inflation, that’s money well spent.
I started playing MtG at the start. Pulled alpha cards out of boosters bought at normal retail. I never used card sleeves. Did it hurt their sell value? Yup. Still had fun playing, and still got some nice coin from them when I did decide to get out.
If I could go back in time and give advice to my younger self, it would not be “don’t play with your toys”
Life is short, do what you enjoy.
YMMV, I am by no means a financial expert. Or even someone who keeps track of the value of minis. But I am someone who loves putting vintage lead on the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:52:48
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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They do look impressive.
Something fun about having something most do not have, got metal termies, tac squad, a sister of battle and apochery
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:58:09
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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I just picked up some of the old Imperial Guard officers with the fancy breastplates to use in my AM army. Put Cadian arms on them, totally destroyed their collectible value.
Here's my reasoning: If your retirement plan hinges on selling miniatures for huge profits, you need a new retirement plan. They will probably increase in value over time. Or they might not. The only things that really grow in value a lot are the NIB full games that are out of print. If they get to hundreds of dollars in value, it will only be because the value of a dollar has fallen. When you sell them for $300, you'll be spending $25 on a gallon of milk.
So I say open them up. The value you get from painting them is far more than the value you'll get from selling them later.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 19:58:54
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Irked Necron Immortal
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I doubt they will be worth something in twenty years, but take a look at what happened to comic books and action figures. Nobody thought they would ever be worth something and now you can sell some of them for hundreds of dollars. You can never know for sure, so just do what you think is best if they fit your army and you really want to use them then go for it if your unsure then I might hold off for a while. At least until your sure about your decision.
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Everything I say, barring quotes and researched information, is my personal opinion. Not fact.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 21:50:38
Subject: Re:Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Ohh yeaaaah, the air inside even smelt like late 80's. I need to google some rainforest treefrogs to get a good colour scheme.
Thanks for relieving me of my paranoia!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 21:52:36
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Ohh yeaaaah, the air inside even smelt like late 80's
I'm very, very sorry to hear that. It was such a terrible time.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 21:53:38
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Let them go to there natural home, the table top! Automatically Appended Next Post: Psienesis wrote:Ohh yeaaaah, the air inside even smelt like late 80's
I'm very, very sorry to hear that. It was such a terrible time.
The smell of strikes, discontent and awful fashion.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/12 22:13:30
Subject: Re:Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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Yeah, if you are interested more in what they are worth on Ebay than what they are worth to you to paint up, then sell them.
But otherwise, they were literally made to have fun with. So do that!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 06:30:26
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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You only regret the stuff you DON'T do.
So do it.
Take them out of their packaging, paint them, use them.
Collectors will pay insane prices for them regardless. One less in circulation only drives the rest of the others' perceived value higher.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 08:42:44
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Good choice - they are to be enjoyed. Paint them up, place them in your display cabinet and game with them.
Finally, join the Oldhammer forum, show off your retro beauties and get using them in games of Rogue Trader!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 09:03:22
Subject: Re:Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Fixture of Dakka
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With the exception of a few duds (Pre 3e Tyranid models in particular look rather ghastly in a bad way) rogue trader era models are rather serviceable if a bit dumpy looking.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 10:09:03
Subject: Re:Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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I think you made a good choice, because the most these models will ever be worth isn't really worth keeping them for decades. Few hundred dollars? Who cares? You can make that in a week or a few days or even less depending on your job. It's not really much of an investment. Much more fun to use old school minis to give your army/diorama/whatever some old school flavor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 13:41:15
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Jaceevoke wrote:Nobody thought they would ever be worth something and now you can sell some of them for hundreds of dollars.
Yeah, the bare few that of course are going to be worth a lot of money, like the very first appearance of Batman or Superman from 80 years ago, and the original action figures from a sci-fi movie that slowly transformed into a cultural icon. Wargaming stuff is never going to reach that level of must-have, so if the choice is between, 'break them out and play with them,' or 'keep them in a closet and see if mint in box makes me money' you're never going to lose by going with the first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 13:43:31
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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Honestly would it be worth twenty years of storage and non use to possibly make a few hundred quid?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 17:09:51
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Dakka Veteran
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For sure take 'em out and use them! Think of the enjoyment you'll get out of having unique miniatures that you like. Isn't that worth more than maybe getting $100 in twenty years?
I think you'd regret NOT using them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 17:10:48
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
My secret fortress at the base of the volcano!
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Paint them. You can't reduce their resale value by painting them, because they are metal. Metal. It is a material that GW used to make miniatures out of. Apparently it has other uses, but that is the most important one. A nice thing about metal (apart from it not being Finecast) is that it can be painted multiple times! If you don't like the paint job, or you want to sell it as unpainted, just dunk it in acetone and assault it with a toothbrush (preferably not the one you normally clean your teeth with)! Voila! It's brand new again! True, it isn't "new in box" anymore, but a lot of the old GW packaging looked naff, anyway. And why would you pay more for a box? It makes it very hard to determine a model's line of sight if it is still in its original packaging!
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Caledonian 95th (undergoing regimental reorganization)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 19:10:09
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Spawn of Chaos
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Those old boys bring back memories.
Play them! Armies with flavor are more fun to play with and against.
If you want more cash, work a little overtime.
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"… I hate donkey caves who design their armies with the sole purpose of crushing their opponent as fast as possible & with the least amount of actual effort required. It's a game of toy soldiers, yet for some people, it seems to be how they measure the true size of their penis." Experiment 626
angelofvengeance wrote: Sounds silly but I've found my models perform better in games when they've had a lick of paint on them! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 19:13:00
Subject: Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Enjoy em! After all, miniatures are meant to be played with!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 19:28:22
Subject: Re:Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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dementedwombat wrote:Every time I go to a car show and see some beautifully tuned sports car from the 60s get wheeled off its trailer into the display spot my heart shrivels up a little. You know the owner never actually drives it. What's the point?
As someone who owns such a vehicle, I can tell you there are times it doesn't get driven because its painfully expensive to maintain and drive
But yeah, there are certain things I can see collecting for the sake of collecting, 40k isn't really one of those things. Especially with metal models that are pretty easy to strip. Specialist games maybe, but even then only a "maybe".
But at the end of the day it's up to you. If you like the idea of preserving a piece of 40k history, box and all, sweet, personally I don't think it's really worth it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/13 21:42:21
Subject: Re:Will I regret taking vintage models from the rogue trader era out of the box (nib)?
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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Paint them. You can't reduce their resale value by painting them, because they are metal. Metal. It is a material that GW used to make miniatures out of. Apparently it has other uses, but that is the most important one.
Hey, I remember those days!
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