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Its still Eldar without a doubt

The guy with the best mind for strategy

Zodiark wrote:
The guy with the best mind for strategy

Basically this.
A good mind for tactics helps too.

This question is irrelevant because you wont be seeing armies in 40k anymore, just collections of miniatures from various factions

Fluff wise or rules wise?

 Sir Arun wrote:
This question is irrelevant because you wont be seeing armies in 40k anymore, just collections of miniatures from various factions

Someone believes everything they read.

I hope the guy that voted Sisters of Battle did it as a joke.

Also "which has the best general?"
Say that to the BA player going against a Tau Riptide list.

Armored, Imperial Guard tank columns can crush any resistance.

Have any of you tried running a CSM list against Tau.
The very thought still gives me shivers.

I'm going with the overpowered bikes that can now even score.

 Sir Arun wrote:
This question is irrelevant because you wont be seeing armies in 40k anymore, just collections of miniatures from various factions

Basically this.

I have a sneaking suspicion it will be the true-to-lore Grey Knights + Chaos Daemons list, though.

 Triton wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
This question is irrelevant because you wont be seeing armies in 40k anymore, just collections of miniatures from various factions

Basically this.

I have a sneaking suspicion it will be the true-to-lore Grey Knights + Chaos Daemons list, though.

Luckily GKs don't have malefic.

Unluckily that's totally acceptable as per unbound.

For extra heresy, have Necrons, Tyranids, Orks, and Eldar there as well.

You've left off the "I think the armies are all reasonably balanced" option. So, I'm going to have to skew your poll by voting for something else.

However, since people often seem to confuse "easy to master simple/basic strategies" with "overpowered," I'll go ahead and vote for the army that is easiest to get a beginner's grasp of.

 Jimsolo wrote:
You've left off the "I think the armies are all reasonably balanced" option. So, I'm going to have to skew your poll by voting for something else.

However, since people often seem to confuse "easy to master simple/basic strategies" with "overpowered," I'll go ahead and vote for the army that is easiest to get a beginner's grasp of.

Options should not be provided for objectively wrong choices.

 ThePrimordial wrote:

Zodiark wrote:
The guy with the best mind for strategy

Basically this.
A good mind for tactics helps too.

As does extensive game experience both with their chosen army and against their opposing army.

If anything Eldar have gotten even stronger

 Kain wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
You've left off the "I think the armies are all reasonably balanced" option. So, I'm going to have to skew your poll by voting for something else.

However, since people often seem to confuse "easy to master simple/basic strategies" with "overpowered," I'll go ahead and vote for the army that is easiest to get a beginner's grasp of.

Options should not be provided for objectively wrong choices.

Dude, you should ALWAYS leave room in a poll for people that you think are wrong. Unless you aren't interested in what the community thinks and just want to generate some sloppy numbers to support your preconceived opinion. That's why I always put the other/confused/no opinion option in my polls, even when there is NO POSSIBLE other option. (If you go back through them, you'll not that someone ALWAYS clicks those, too. Without them, people will be giving weird answers and skewing the numbers.)

 YFNPsycho wrote:
Have any of you tried running a CSM list against Tau.
The very thought still gives me shivers.

Yes I have unfortunately. I was tabled turn 3 at a tourney without killing a single model at the champions table.

Needless to say I voted Tau.

 Jimsolo wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
You've left off the "I think the armies are all reasonably balanced" option. So, I'm going to have to skew your poll by voting for something else.

However, since people often seem to confuse "easy to master simple/basic strategies" with "overpowered," I'll go ahead and vote for the army that is easiest to get a beginner's grasp of.

Options should not be provided for objectively wrong choices.

Dude, you should ALWAYS leave room in a poll for people that you think are wrong. Unless you aren't interested in what the community thinks and just want to generate some sloppy numbers to support your preconceived opinion. That's why I always put the other/confused/no opinion option in my polls, even when there is NO POSSIBLE other option. (If you go back through them, you'll not that someone ALWAYS clicks those, too. Without them, people will be giving weird answers and skewing the numbers.)

He is asking for the most powerful army. The list that has the greatest variety of high preforming builds is currently the Eldar. Some lists can do better under certain circumstances but in general terms, the Eldar preform the best as a mono-codex.

Of course as GW wants everyone to play baby's first apocalypse and the Imperium has a disgusting amount of options, it's almost easier to talk about the Imperium as a single giant supercodex which should be watched carefully, but I expect the forces of the Imperium to be top tier.

Primarily because they get all of the toys while everyone else gets scraps thrown their way whenever GW is feeling generous.

I think trying to decide "who's most powerful?" right now is kinda silly, since we've just had an entire new rulebook dropped into the mix.

A lot of the Eldar's biggest antics for example came from their 2++ re-rollable Deathstar build, and/or spamming a bunch of skimmers who could gain a jink save whilst still shooting pretty effectively.
In 7th, Eldar will not longer have their near-automatic augments to the Jetseerstar due to how the new Psychic phase works, whilst those spammed Wave Serpents will be much more vulnerable now due to the changes to the Jink rule, or else won't be shooting with near the accuracy that they've become accustomed to.

Same for Daemons and the dreaded Flying Circus or Screamerstar.

New rules, new game.
How about we give it a few months to see where the chips now fall?!

Hehhehe....on the note of GK....theres an interesting rules loop i imagine theyre going to FAQ in either Daemons or GK as it is the ultimate anti-fluff situation ive ever heard of.

Come the Apoc allies, can be allied and are literally just Desperate Allies with an additional deployment restriction of 12" from each other.

GK + Daemons. Someones going to do it just because its allowed, whether its going to be nasty or even viable i have no idea lol but legal.

I voted Tyranids before I realised this was about rules. FML.

 Ashiraya wrote:
I voted Tyranids before I realised this was about rules. FML.

So, will the DEldar, Infinite Daemons, or the Imperial Super-codex be the army to dominate the game?

 Kain wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I voted Tyranids before I realised this was about rules. FML.

So, will the DEldar, Infinite Daemons, or the Imperial Super-codex be the army to dominate the game?

I don't really know. It gets so stupid on that level of things and so very cluttered. Psy-buffed wave serpents versus Gra'vesa stars and all kinds of gak.

Not my area.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I voted Tyranids before I realised this was about rules. FML.

So, will the DEldar, Infinite Daemons, or the Imperial Super-codex be the army to dominate the game?

I don't really know. It gets so stupid on that level of things and so very cluttered. Psy-buffed wave serpents versus Gra'vesa stars and all kinds of gak.

Not my area.

Luckily the warriors of the Adeptus Astartes are now only desperate allies with the Tau.

Experiment 626 wrote:
I think trying to decide "who's most powerful?" right now is kinda silly, since we've just had an entire new rulebook dropped into the mix.

A lot of the Eldar's biggest antics for example came from their 2++ re-rollable Deathstar build, and/or spamming a bunch of skimmers who could gain a jink save whilst still shooting pretty effectively.
In 7th, Eldar will not longer have their near-automatic augments to the Jetseerstar due to how the new Psychic phase works, whilst those spammed Wave Serpents will be much more vulnerable now due to the changes to the Jink rule, or else won't be shooting with near the accuracy that they've become accustomed to.

Same for Daemons and the dreaded Flying Circus or Screamerstar.

New rules, new game.
How about we give it a few months to see where the chips now fall?!

Boy, you need to reed the psi rules again, if anything Eldar are way more powerful psiwise than before, expect them to have an additional 8+ power dice against your measly +2 or so, and that is just from the jetcoucil and the lvl3 psiquer, they will bring more if they add counsilmen as sargeants at 35 points a pop and they are all also getting twice as many powers as before. If you think you are stopping their psi phase you are in for a reckoning, THEY are completely shutting YOU down.

On average on your phase they will need 3 dice to pull a success where you need 2, and they are likely to have the dice to pull it off.

Eldar.
Now closely followed by Gk, Daemons, Necrons and Tau

I'm guilty...i voted for space wolves. It's the best army in my opinion.

Anything with an Ignores Shaken/Stunned option is HUGE now, effectively ignoring 2/3 of the Damage chart, and explosions are harder to achieve, which some units have an invul save for.