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 Nilok wrote:
Wow, that Farsight faq.

All the instances of "Farsight Army" and "Your Army" are now "Farsight Detachment". Buff Command and Shadowsun for Farsight.

Can you explain what this means? I'm not quite familiar with the mechanics of how Tau Bombs used to work, and how this changes it.

The Talisman of Arthas Moloch is amazing. +4 dice for DTW and everyone get a 4+ to DTW within 12"? I was right to call Farsight the anti-psykers for Tau.

I was sad to see the GK Reinforced Aegis get a serious nerf. Now I'm even sadder to see that someone else has what I was hoping the RA would be (and what the RA used to do).

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

Kyutaru wrote:
Unbound list rules essentially use: "Use anything you want."

This is false. Unbound armies must still abide by unit compositions and point values.
There are also some army-specific restrictions in the various codices, eg. Honour Guard, Ghost Knights, Inquisitorial Warbands, Crisis Bodyguards.

Please do not derail the thread.

If you really need to pimp your thread, post a link to it and stop forcing it into other topics.

My DA can now be demon summoning factories too!

Demon factories for everyone!

Well, except for you GK and nids...

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

 Nilok wrote:
Wow, that Farsight faq.

All the instances of "Farsight Army" and "Your Army" are now "Farsight Detachment". Buff Command and Shadowsun for Farsight.

Can you explain what this means? I'm not quite familiar with the mechanics of how Tau Bombs used to work, and how this changes it.

The Farsight Enclaves book was worded poorly before. RAW, you were not allowed to take Shadowsun or a Tau Commander with Tau Empire Special Issue Systems (Relics) even in an allied detachment because it was forbidden in your army. It's now forbidden only in a Farsight Enclaves detachment. Most people agreed that RAI would allow you and RAW has now been changed to match.

All of my summoned demons will look suspiciously like DA tac squads though...

 Nilok wrote:
The Talisman of Arthas Moloch is amazing. +4 dice for DTW and everyone get a 4+ to DTW within 12"? I was right to call Farsight the anti-psykers for Tau.

No it doesn't. The second sentence now reads that everyone within 12" gets +2 to DtW.

Chaos Daemons got a new HQ unit - Exalted Flamer of Tzeentch. It's entry says it counts as one Herald. Does it mean I can buy Herald upgrades for it or it's just a new unit without any upgrades? This guy without Disk/Chariot is useless.

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

 Nilok wrote:
Wow, that Farsight faq.

All the instances of "Farsight Army" and "Your Army" are now "Farsight Detachment". Buff Command and Shadowsun for Farsight.

Can you explain what this means? I'm not quite familiar with the mechanics of how Tau Bombs used to work, and how this changes it.

Farsight Enclaves was the first supplement to allow alliance with its mother codex (Iyanden couldn't ally with Eldar). But they put the word 'army' instead of 'detachment' (as the newer supplements used), so the alliance between these were quite fuzzy. Example: Farsight has a clause that prohibits you to use Signature Systems (Tau Relics) from Tau Codex. This is normal to the allied detachment or primary, but it had an extra restriction: your ARMY couldn't take Tau Sig Systems, not only the Farsight detachment (so, if you had Farsight as either ally or primary, the other detach with Tau couldn't take their own Sig Systems!). People used to change 'army' to 'detachment' to overcome that. This FAQ shows this decision was indeed RAI

Shadowsun and the "Buff Commander" add numerous benefits to the Farsight Bomb Deathstar, including Stealth, Shrouded, twin-linking, Stubborn, Ignores Cover and potential others such as Tank Hunters/Monster Hunters, etc.

They are VERY desireable force multiplier units.

 Kriswall wrote:
Shadowsun and the "Buff Commander" add numerous benefits to the Farsight Bomb Deathstar, including Stealth, Shrouded, twin-linking, Stubborn, Ignores Cover and potential others such as Tank Hunters/Monster Hunters, etc.

They are VERY desireable force multiplier units.

15 hot plasmaguns with TL and Ignores cover? Monster/Tank Hunters? Oh my!

jamesk1973 wrote:
My DA can now be demon summoning factories too!

Demon factories for everyone!

Well, except for you GK and nids...

Well everyone other than Daemons still perils on doubles

I'll just take a dreadnaught and try to shut your factory down with rerolled DTW

The FaQ's are interesting, a lot of things to digest.

Redacted

Pretty sure Codex:GK can use only Sanctic Daemonology.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

jamesk1973 wrote:
My DA can now be demon summoning factories too!

Demon factories for everyone!

Well, except for you GK and nids...

Well everyone other than Daemons still perils on doubles

I'll just take a dreadnaught and try to shut your factory down with rerolled DTW

Dreadnaughts can re-roll Deny the Witch?


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 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

jamesk1973 wrote:
My DA can now be demon summoning factories too!

Demon factories for everyone!

Well, except for you GK and nids...

GK Librarians, Grand Masters, Brother Captains, Coteaz, Draigo, and Psyker Henchmen can summon Demons too...

No they cant

I guess it depends on what Codex you take them from. I think it was Coteaz who is listed in multiple Codexes but has different capabilities between the two.

Ahriman can cast the SAME witchfire thrice per Psychic phase. Psychic Shriek to clean hordes, Smite to clean termies

It should be noted that Tyranids got the screwjob once again.

I was expecting some kind of FAQ for Shadows in the Warp...none delivered. I guess the leadership penalty just hurts on those couple-three Perils of the Warp results.

 jasper76 wrote:
It should be noted that Tyranids got the screwjob once again.

I was expecting some kind of FAQ for Shadows in the Warp...none delivered. I guess the leadership penalty just hurts on those couple-three Perils of the Warp results.

You aren't alone. Daemons of Tzeentch still get +3 Ld when manifesting Psychic Powers; it wasn't addressed in the FAQ. I don't know if you can keep the extra Ld for Perils tests...

 Vector Strike wrote:
Ahriman can cast the SAME witchfire thrice per Psychic phase. Psychic Shriek to clean hordes, Smite to clean termies

As long as you have enough dice to even reliably attempt 3 powers per turn.

 Vector Strike wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
It should be noted that Tyranids got the screwjob once again.

I was expecting some kind of FAQ for Shadows in the Warp...none delivered. I guess the leadership penalty just hurts on those couple-three Perils of the Warp results.

You aren't alone. Daemons of Tzeentch still get +3 Ld when manifesting Psychic Powers; it wasn't addressed in the FAQ. I don't know if you can keep the extra Ld for Perils tests...

I'd assume so, since they didn't FAQ it.

So Tzeentch daemons get +3 leadership, Shadows in the Warp gives -3 leadership...this only comes into play now if you're rolling on the Perils of the Warp table and hit one with a leadership test, or so it would seem...

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

 Idolator wrote:
Notice that they deleted the "Primary" from the detachment description on Heralds.

Now, you definitely can take four per detachment.

And no more than four!

--but that's in a detachment. So it's still a silly army construction loophole for Unbound armies. Daemon Primary Unbound may take 0-4 Heralds (since it's a detachment, it's limited). Anything-else Primary Unbound may take infinity Heralds (since it's not a detachment, it's unlimited).

so per detachment where i can take heralds + 2 troops + whatever else multiply by however many i want?
same as i can take 2 librarians per detachment mmmm hello daemon allies wait i just realised it means Detachement, so it CAN be an allied detachment, rather than just normal daemons detachments as well, so in each allies detachment i COULD take 4 heralds + a unit of pink horrors? ouuchie..

SitW doesnt need an FAQ really, the penalty for failing that leadership test is bad bad ju ju... it will help there.

and the heldrake is now a steamer again, must have sold juuust enough
aaaaaand i can turn abby into a damn spawn again.... no more beatsticking for him

EDIT: so with my above theories, if i drop drakes for a bunch of heralds all good to go?.....

Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

 Iechine wrote:
Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

Hull mounted weapon, not 360 from the base anymore.

 pretre wrote:

 Mywik wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Happyjew wrote:
BA no longer have their own powers. They roll on tables like everyone else. Problem "solved".

Along with SW. No more Jaws.

And Runic weapons nerfed/adjusted to +1 DTW.

Is that really a nerf though? It is now unlimited range and each dice you roll for DTW is 5+... Njal is 4+. That seems pretty decent.

How is it unlimited range? The model gets +1. You only get to use the models bonus if its targeting him or the unit he is a part of, correct? Unless I read the DtW rules incorrectly. It was only a Psychic Hood that let you use a Psyker's DtW bonuses to other units within 12".

Also, technically, the 3rd sentence of the Runic Weapons entry (that the FAQ tells you to replace) says "A runic weapon is a force weapon". The 4th sentence is the one saying it nullifies powers on a 4+ etc. So..

 Iechine wrote:
Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

hull mounted weapon, so 45deg LOS arcs and cant wound outside of those arcs if i read right...

I just noticed Blood Angels lost almost ALL of its Fast stuff - only Baal Predators and Land Speeders are fast

 Iechine wrote:
Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

Previous FAQs doesn't count anymore. So Heldrake lost the Turret mounting on his weapons. It needs to be fired in a 45 degree arc from the muzzle of the weapon. So, you cannot hit people behind/at your side.

And Abaddon can become spawn/daemon prince again, lol

jamesk1973 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

jamesk1973 wrote:
My DA can now be demon summoning factories too!

Demon factories for everyone!

Well, except for you GK and nids...

Well everyone other than Daemons still perils on doubles

I'll just take a dreadnaught and try to shut your factory down with rerolled DTW

Dreadnaughts can re-roll Deny the Witch?

GK ones can with Reinforced Aegis, normal GK units with Aegis can reroll 1s for DTW

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Iechine wrote:
Im having some PDF issues, why does the Heldrake blow now?

hull mounted weapon, so 45deg LOS arcs and cant wound outside of those arcs if i read right...

Doesnt templates and blasts kinda thing still wound out of LOS?

So now we know that CSM don't have access to Divination unless they are Huron (1/3 chance) or Balestar. Right?

 Brometheus wrote:
So now we know that CSM don't have access to Divination unless they are Huron (1/3 chance) or Balestar. Right?

We've known that for a while. Psychic cards are not rulebooks. Just gives people an overview.

Azrael doesn't force himself to be your Warlord anymore

 Brometheus wrote:
So now we know that CSM don't have access to Divination unless they are Huron (1/3 chance) or Balestar. Right?

Scrolls of Magnus can give Divination as well