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Hey there this is my proposed list for a LGC Tournament comming up.

Pedro Kantor 185

Librarian; Level 2 90

Scout Squad Alpha
x5, Heavy Bolter, Hellfire Rounds, Boltguns 68

Scout squad Bravo
x5, Heavy Bolter, Hellfire Rounds, Boltguns 68

Land Speeder Storms
Heavy Flamer 45

Land Speeder Storm
Heavy Flamer 45

SternGuard Squad Alpha
x8, Heavy Bolter, 2x Combi plasma, MeltaBombs 221

SternGuard Squad Bravo
x8, Heavy Bolter, 2x Combi-plasma, MeltaBombs + Powerfist 246

Sternguard Squad Charlie
x8, Heavy Bolter, 2x Combi Melta, Meltabombs + Power Sword. 236

Rhino Transport x3 105

Predator
AutoCannon + HeavyBolter Sponsons 95

Predator
Autocannon + HeavyBolter Sponsons 95

That Should be 1499 and I have 5 Scoring units ( because of kantor )

Please Bear in mind I have not yet purchased the new rule book ( car decided to have a fit so needed fixing first before toy soldiers)

And thats its. so please comments and Criticism if you please and dont leave me hanging!

Muchly thank you etc

Land speeders with heavy flamers seem really counter intuitive for such fragile units

Other than that, seems like a good list...

I think it looks good, you're lacking a bit of AA but that's not super necessary these days.

I would suggest putting the melta squad into a drop pod for an alpha strike, but other than that looks good.

The Speeders are decent, good threat that will suck some S7+ away from the rest of your army, and with any luck you can vaporize some enemy scout-type units/light infantry with them.

Should I keep the heavy flamer or go for the heavy bolters on the storms?

I'd go HB on the speeders and heavy flamer on the stern... and try and get them at least one drop pod... yup gotta get 'em in the nitty gritty...

The overall idea of the list is neat, lots of bodies on the ground with the Objective Secured rule. I would make a few adjustments though to maximize what each unit is good at.

I really think that the Sternguard should take advantage of the heavy flamers. I'd put two of them in that rhino and just become an objective grabbing nightmare for weak infantry. A rhino that can spit out 2 heavy flamer shots is nice. I'd also just use their special ammo if you're advancing in Rhinos and not going for an alpha strike. The heavy bolters are nothing special a regular tac squad can't take, so don't waste the slot here (plus they are just snap firing most of the time).

You do need some AA in some form, maybe a Stormraven could deliver a group of Sternguard? The Stormraven is a wonderful, versatile tool.

Also, I like the heavy flamer on the Land Speeder Storms. I often find them to be effective at deep striking in real close and lighting up a small infantry squad on an objective. However, I don't like those heavy bolters because you can't snap fire them (it's a blast marker). I'm also not a huge fan of power weapons on all the Sternguard, maybe just the group with which Pedro is joining (his ability doesn't reach too far if I remember correctly).

Hope that helps!

The Heavy bolters were because I have the parts more then wanting them. Still same points for the heavy flamer. And to be honest the AA doesn't bother me much as not alot.of people have them and hitting the things will be a pain. Unless I.somehow get 2 skytalons for anti flyer annoying Ness?

A Stormraven will serve you better than 2 talons I think. You can make room for 1 by adjusting things like I do below. I really think once you use one, you'll like how it performs.


Pedro Kantor
Librarian - level 2 (biomancy)

Scouts (5) - bolters, land speeder storm w/heavy flamer
Scouts (5) - bolters, land speeder storm w/heavy flamer

Sternguard (5)- 2x combi-melta, power sword, bolt pistol, melta bombs
Sternguard (10) - heavy flamer x2, rhino
Sternguard (10) - heavy flamer x2, rhino

Predator - autocannon, heavy bolters
Stormraven - assault cannons, multimelta

1500 points total


I would put Pedro, the Librarian, and the 5-man Sternguard unit in the Stormraven. This allows you to have a late-game push with a bit of a punch (if the libby gets some biomancy going, along with the many attacks pedro will be giving the squad at all sorts of initiatives is nice) that can cause some damage. Plus, you are basically trading a Predator for a Stormraven with adjusting the loadouts like this, although you lose just a few scoring bodies. I would play this list by hunting their troops: use the Sternguard in rhinos to take objectives from infantry, allow the predator to hunt support or deepstriking infantry, and the Stormraven to hit that high threat target (MC or vehicle).

my stormtalon always out performs the stormraven if you want anit air go stormtalon with twink-link lascannon its only 140pts

Sorry, but my stormraven always makes its points back. To AC TL MM and hurricane bolters rock. (And when I play blood angels blood strike missiles!)

yeah but its a bigger target and i find people focus it more then they do my storm talon plus storm talon has a bs of 5 on ground targets so you almost never miss

Swap the boltguns for shotguns if your going to keep flamers on the lss's. Otherwise your better off with scouts in drop pods or rhinos

Was thinking bolters and sniper scouts maybe


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Snipers with Camo cloaks in the speeders and drop the preds for talons?

So what works better scouts with cloaks and sniper rifles or bolters and heavy bolter?


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So what works better scouts with cloaks and sniper rifles or bolters and heavy bolter?

This is probably the best.

Pedro Kantor
Librarian (Lvl 2)

Scouts (5) - Shotguns
in LSS w/ HF
Scouts (5) - Shotguns
in LSS w/ HF

Sternguard (5) - 3x Combi Melta, HF
(in StormRaven)
Sternguard (10) - 2x HF
in Rhino
Sternguard (10) - 2x HF
in Rhino

Predator - Autocannon, Sponson HBs
Stormraven - Assault Cannon, MM

1500

Why the storm raven. Why not a couple of stormtalon?

Could aways do some termies for deep strike fun

 Lokki wrote:
Hey there this is my proposed list for a LGC Tournament comming up.

Pedro Kantor 185

Librarian; Level 2 90

Scout Squad Alpha
x5, Heavy Bolter, Hellfire Rounds, Boltguns 68

Scout squad Bravo
x5, Heavy Bolter, Hellfire Rounds, Boltguns 68

Land Speeder Storms
Heavy Flamer 45

Land Speeder Storm
Heavy Flamer 45

SternGuard Squad Alpha
x8, Heavy Bolter, 2x Combi plasma, MeltaBombs 221

SternGuard Squad Bravo
x8, Heavy Bolter, 2x Combi-plasma, MeltaBombs + Powerfist 246

Sternguard Squad Charlie
x8, Heavy Bolter, 2x Combi Melta, Meltabombs + Power Sword. 236

Rhino Transport x3 105

Predator
AutoCannon + HeavyBolter Sponsons 95

Predator
Autocannon + HeavyBolter Sponsons 95

That Should be 1499 and I have 5 Scoring units ( because of kantor )

Please Bear in mind I have not yet purchased the new rule book ( car decided to have a fit so needed fixing first before toy soldiers)

And thats its. so please comments and Criticism if you please and dont leave me hanging!

Muchly thank you etc

You look a little light on anti-tank. Maybe some Las-cannons, and Meltas would be good additions? You technicly have more scoring, because of dedicated transports? I'm not sure what Pedro does exactly.....

kantor makes your sternguard squads scoring units. so i have 5 scoring units in total ( don't know what the new rules change that to havent had chance to read them yet)

and i have melta bombs and power fists on most unit. unless you suggest i should swap the AutoCannon for a Twin-Linked Lascannon on the predators or swap both the preds out and some other stuff and get 2 StormTalons with lascannons and assault cannons ( or missile)

My advice?

Two stern guards in pods with combi meltas. Drop the HB.
Two in pods with 2x heavy flamers.

Give the sgts. Lightning claws IMO.

Drop land speeders and press for a kitted out storm Raven.


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The only thing rhinos do well is give first blood.

Thought about swapping it up so got a new list
Kantor

Librarian. Lvl 2 plasma pistol

Tactical squad
X10 power sword, missile launcher, grav gun

X10 powerfist, missile launcher, grav gun

Scouts
X5. Snipers, Camo cloaks
X5 bolters
X5 bolters

landspeeder storms
X2 heavy flamers

Rhino
X3

Predator
X2 with lascannon turrets and sponsors

Sternguard
X5, 2x Combi plasma, meltabombs, powersword grav pistol

All in all clocks in at 1500 on the nose. I still have a sternguard squad but now I have 6 scoring units and both flexibility and anti armour which I was lacking. I don't understand why everyone likes the raven so much it is 270 of random that may not turn up until turn 5. Yes it's a pain to kill when it gets on the board. Just don't see what the appeal is

 Lokki wrote:
Thought about swapping it up so got a new list
Kantor

Librarian. Lvl 2 plasma pistol

Tactical squad
X10 power sword, missile launcher, grav gun

X10 powerfist, missile launcher, grav gun

Scouts
X5. Snipers, Camo cloaks
X5 bolters
X5 bolters

landspeeder storms
X2 heavy flamers

Rhino
X3

Predator
X2 with lascannon turrets and sponsors

Sternguard
X5, 2x Combi plasma, meltabombs, powersword grav pistol

All in all clocks in at 1500 on the nose. I still have a sternguard squad but now I have 6 scoring units and both flexibility and anti armour which I was lacking. I don't understand why everyone likes the raven so much it is 270 of random that may not turn up until turn 5. Yes it's a pain to kill when it gets on the board. Just don't see what the appeal is

I don't know much, but I like this one better...

I think it should work better. But only play testing will show the flaws in it. Just need to build and paint it all now....ah yea forgot that bit.... Bugger