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Iran Hands-1850

HQ:
1x Master of the Forge- 90pts

Troops:
10 man tac squad, 1MM, 1meltagun, rhino- 195pts
10 man tac squad, 1MM, 1meltagun, rhino- 195pts
5 man tac squad, 1MM, razorback- 135pts
5 man tac squad, 1MM, razorback- 135pts
8 man scouts cloaks, 7x sniper, 1 Heavy Bolter, Hellfire- 125pts

Fast Attack:
Stormtalon, Skyhammer- 125pts
Stormtalon, Skyhammer- 125pts
Stormtalon, Skyhammer- 125pts

HS:
1x Stormraven (TL aslt can, TL MM), hurricane bolters- 230pts

Other:
1x Imperial Knight Errant- 370pts

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(note: the tactic is the same as the old list, except it no longer uses the shotgun scouts since ded transports have OS, instead the new list utilizes more dedicated transports in the form of upgrading a rhino to razorback and adding a razorback),



The plan: So the plan is to pile all the tac squads in the rhinos and razorbacks, the MOTF in the stormraven, bolster ruins with the MOTF and put the sniper scouts with their cloaks in 2+ cover save, have the knight smash through their lines, hurling str9 ap1 large-blast melta everywhere, then send in the fliers for air superiority. Take the tac marines out of the rhinos and razorback, combat squading from rhinos, then depending on what the opponent has, screen them with the rhinos and razorbacks or use the rhinos to objective secure stuff (using their guns to shot enemies in range), all 5-man tac squads as well as the transports have OS. Use the MOTF to repair the storm raven and use it as a fire magnet because it repairs HP on a 3+ from MOTF and it has IWND.
Oh, and everything has either ITND or 6+ FNP.

What do you think? (Oh and what should I do with the 4 points? Take something out and use their combined points for something, or get a tiny thing for 4pts).

THANKS FOR CONTRIBUTING IN ADVANCE!


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Your Scout Squad w/ Sniper rifles has a typo (5-man) or your points are off.

I think if your opponent knows that your Warlord is in a Stormraven, a lot of concentrated firepower will be used to take it out... that and your Knight are priority targets.

Your Tactical Squads are limited to short range and unless you intend on deserting an objective, I would recommend having some diversity in weapons/roles with possible Razorbacks for supporting fire.

If you dropped the 3x extra Storm Bolters from your Rhinos, you could almost afford to upgrade one to a Razorback...

I personally would drop the shotgun Scouts... if your Stormraven is still functional late into the game, you could transport your sniper squad (as they will likely run out of targets due to combat or other reasons) and ferry them instead. Use the 55 + 15 points (Storm Bolters) for something else...

Aurelian wrote:
Your Scout Squad w/ Sniper rifles has a typo (5-man) or your points are off.

I think if your opponent knows that your Warlord is in a Stormraven, a lot of concentrated firepower will be used to take it out... that and your Knight are priority targets.

Your Tactical Squads are limited to short range and unless you intend on deserting an objective, I would recommend having some diversity in weapons/roles with possible Razorbacks for supporting fire.

If you dropped the 3x extra Storm Bolters from your Rhinos, you could almost afford to upgrade one to a Razorback...

I personally would drop the shotgun Scouts... if your Stormraven is still functional late into the game, you could transport your sniper squad (as they will likely run out of targets due to combat or other reasons) and ferry them instead. Use the 55 + 15 points (Storm Bolters) for something else...

Thanks for pointing that out, I forgot to put the updated points on the list (they were calculated in the total though).

As for the stormraven, I am hoping they will focus on it, with AV12+ITND+ MoTF fixing HP on 3+ it is one bad mother. This will leave my storm talons untouched.

As for the knight, same plan, its a big target and it usually doesnt die until T2 or 3 when it is being focused on, and with the new rules, I expect it to last even longer. This will give my rhino's a lot of room to move around.

The 3 (6) tac squads are for taking objectives and thus the short range is fine, especially considering all the fliers which can hit anything anywhere.

I don't think a razorback would be beneficial, since I would have to drop one of the squads from 2(5)/10 to 5. Besides, even the best razorback is terrible in comparison to the Skyhammer Talons. However with the new objective secured rule, it is something to think about, which type were you thinking, I really don't think subbing 4x str4 ap5 for 3x str5 ap4 is smart considering losing the transport capacity and points.

As for the shotgun scouts, usually some point late in the game it will fly over an objective I am not holding (especially since its easy to plan it) and drop them. With the new objective secured rule they will no longer be contested and can shotgun + charge, can't be shot and will score. The sniper squads usually have had targets most of the game since they are the only infantry at the start of the game and as such are usually targeted (again, usually they end up being contested but the new rules seem to favor them).

Dropping them and the storm bolters for 70 points would put me 5 points shy of turning one of my rhino's into a razorback and giving me another razorback, I am losing a OS unit in my stormraven, but gaining one in the form of a razorback... Very tempting.

Another option outside of upgrading to Razorback(s) is to drop the Storm Bolters and a few marines to buy a LS Storm for your Scout Squad. You have the option to transport a Tactical Squad in the Stormraven along with your MotF and driving the empty Rhino around for OS anyways. Although a LS Storm would be more vulnerable to being destroyed (being Open-Topped), it could also disrupt your opponent's reserve units while also providing them the same functionality of shooting and charging ...

No, I think the razorback idea was brilliant. The shotgun scouts were useless other than a scoring token; the two razorbacks gives me the same amount of OS units BUT has the added advantage of another rhino chassis for more saturation as well as being able to take a squad fast to another location. I think having a land speeder is too fragile. I think having lots of tac marines on the table is key to this list, so I don't think the storm raven would be good for the tacticals.

How about this?! (I love it)


Iran Hands-1850

HQ:
1x Master of the Forge- 90pts

Troops:
10 man tac squad, 1MM, 1meltagun, rhino- 195pts
10 man tac squad, 1MM, 1meltagun, rhino- 195pts
5 man tac squad, 1MM, razorback- 135pts
5 man tac squad, 1MM, razorback- 135pts
8 man scouts cloaks, 7x sniper, 1 Heavy Bolter, Hellfire- 125pts

Fast Attack:
Stormtalon, Skyhammer- 125pts
Stormtalon, Skyhammer- 125pts
Stormtalon, Skyhammer- 125pts

HS:
1x Stormraven (TL aslt can, TL MM), hurricane bolters- 230pts

Other:
1x Imperial Knight Errant- 370pts

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Need more comments/critique!

The list looks real nice. The only thing I'd say may be an issue is if you're up against a bunch of units with interceptor, and your fliers all come on one at a time... maybe drop one stormtalon and come scouts for a unit of Legion of the Damned with plasma, plasma cannon, combi-grav/plasma to wipe out an aegis line? Also, escorting the raven with a talon can help.

I really like the list though, very solid!

You want all reserves in at once if they have interceptor, means they only get one chance. As for the list, you will die to tau gun line or eldrad serpent spam with your only safe unit being the knight (unless they have dragons or WG).

Regardless good luck.