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Jihadin wrote: I bet they're really regretting say no to not extending that SOFA
Wonder if Karzai going to sign off on his or let the incoming one sign off on it who might not actually do it
Both of the perspective new presidents have vowed that they will sign the SOFA. In addition, the country actually supports it being signed in this case.
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A few sentences in the CNN article are facepalm-worthy, but that second one is a rather nice summary.
BTW: Wallstreet Journal reports that Iran has deployed 3 battalions of the al Quds Brigades to fight ISIL forces after getting "free hand" from Maliki.
According to an Austrian news source, ISIL forces reached Baquba, 60 km from Baghdad, last night, but were repelled.
Oaka wrote: It's getting to the point where if I see Marneus Calgar and the Swarmlord in the same unit as a Riptide, I probably won't question its legality.
KamikazeCanuck wrote: So what will the history books say about the 2nd Gulf War? Will it be simply that America "lost" the war in the same way it lost the Vietnam War?
Well technically when we left everything was hunkey dory. This is just nature finding its new balance. AlQaeda vs. Iran, this is an..interesting development.
Jihadin wrote: Well. Be interesting prosecuting me for my actions during OIF and OEF. Feel free condemning me then for inflecting injuries to Insurgents
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I for one will not throw my medals away. Even ones with the"V" device
No ones condemning you. We're talking Bush and Blair.
Then American service people were lied to the same as everyone else.
The call the Hague and compel Bush/Blair to testify.
Only if we get to nuke the Hague first. Some poncey European tries to mess with an American President and they'll get their heads handed to them.
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This reminds me exactly of when I watched South Vietnam go under. Everything is playing out the same way to the point I feel like I can pretty much predict the half assed mission from the U.S. to get one last punch in after Iraq is totaly taken over and we start getting daily photographs of executions for those who believed in us and helped us.
If they have helecopter lifts from the roof of the embassy, I wouldn't be surprised.
Relapse wrote: This reminds me exactly of when I watched South Vietnam go under. Everything is playing out the same way to the point I feel like I can pretty much predict the half assed mission from the U.S. to get one last punch in after Iraq is totaly taken over and we start getting daily photographs of executions for those who believed in us and helped us.
If they have helecopter lifts from the roof of the embassy, I wouldn't be surprised.
We've learned jack gak since Vietnam.
I guess it will rather be a lot like Afghanistan prior to the US invasion. Substitute the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan with the Shia territory in southeastern Iraq and the Taliban with ISIL and it's a great fit.
Oaka wrote: It's getting to the point where if I see Marneus Calgar and the Swarmlord in the same unit as a Riptide, I probably won't question its legality.
I'm not sure that's 100% true... we did stay out of Syria.
Only because we lost our bucket and spade, and said you'd have to play in the sand, by yourself.
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If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
I heard that the ISIS PR group have announced they're 15 kilometres from Baghdad .
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Kain wrote: Hope feeds Tzeentch, who will do horrible things to your planet to reward you for your service. Ergo, Hope is evil, and you should stop having it, but you can't have despair because then Nurgle gets a free ride. You could be angry about this, but that'd just get Khorne's jollies off. And heck you can't even get your own jollies off without Slaanesh giggling and farting out some daemons. And if you manage to avoid all that, some genestealers might infiltrate your planet and bring a hive fleet crashing down on you any way.
DxM Scotty MxD wrote: I heard that the ISIS PR group have announced they're 15 kilometres from Baghdad .
Well they've been going through Sunni country. Aren't they about to hit Shiite country which means the crap stops cold? Iran is now sending troops. Do you realize we're on the same side as Iran ?
Are we supporting these jerks in Syria?
WTF is going on?
Is it me or is this an opening for detente between the US and IRan? Then we can like, beat it the out of there and stay out.
THANKS OBAMA BUSH CLINTON BUSH HUSSEIN!
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Yep. At least in the beginning. They're part of the lovely array of democrats everybody was so eager to cheer because they were against Assad. Who is EVIL. So they had to be good guys, right?
Unrelated PS: I hate how the media renamed "Islamic State in Iraq and Levant (ISIL)" to "Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS)" because they apparently assume people are too daft to figure out where the "Levant" is. That's like renaming the CSA to the CSD because "Confederate States of Dixieland" rings more of a bell.
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Oaka wrote: It's getting to the point where if I see Marneus Calgar and the Swarmlord in the same unit as a Riptide, I probably won't question its legality.
DxM Scotty MxD wrote: I heard that the ISIS PR group have announced they're 15 kilometres from Baghdad .
1)Well they've been going through Sunni country. Aren't they about to hit Shiite country which means the crap stops cold? 2)Iran is now sending troops. Do you realize we're on the same side as Iran?
3)Are we supporting these jerks in Syria?
4)WTF is going on?
5)Is it me or is this an opening for detente between the US and IRan? Then we can like, beat it the out of there and stay out.
THANKS OBAMA BUSH CLINTON BUSH HUSSEIN!
I don't know what you're trying to say here so I'm gonna address each point individually.
1) Yes they have been moving through predominately Sunni territory which is a big factor for why the Iraqi army is falling apart like a pack of cards (at one engagement ~1K DAESH/ISIS broke through ~10-20K Iraqi army). Once they reach Shiite territory they are probably going to hit a brick wall.
2) To my knowledge Iran is sending 3 Battalions of core soldiery given a kill order and a free hand. I guess when the militants want to revive the Caliphate and expand it to all of its previous territories even Al-qeada looks like a sane ally.
3) Again to my knowledge the West is funding all sides. We're funding the Iraqis directly, the ISIS through moderate rebels through a tax/being absorbed into the ISIS and Iran to solve this problem so we don't have to.
4)"Hey, hope this will help to make some proper sense of what's going on.
this is the deal:
Until the toppling of Saddam's regime in 2003, Iraq was controlled by a Sunni regime, although a very large portion of its population was and is Shiite. Most Shiites are located in Southern Iraq, while Arab Sunnies are at the West and some of the East (and northern of Baghdad to certain extent). At the North there are the Kurds, who are Sunni, but non-Arab.
After the elections Al-Maliki was chosen to be Prime Minister. Al-Maliki is Shiite, and therefore Iraq actually became a Shiite state, with Shiite administration. The Sunni tribes at the west were paid-off to defend the western border. During the American occupation and presence of Iraq, an Al-Qaeda branch in Iraq, called Al-Qaeda in Iraq has fought against Iraqi and American forces. The have gained much experience and, after the Americans left, support from Sunni tribes in the western part of Iraq (who were left out of Iraqi payroll).
In 2011 there was the Arab 'spring', or moreso, the Islamist spring. The Syrian uprising began, and a Syrian Al-Qaeda branch was formed in the form of Jabhat A-Nusra, also known as Tanzim Al-Qaeda fi Syria (Al-Qaeda organization in Syria). Al-Qaeda in Iraq has decided to join the fighting in Syria, and set itself a goal to make an Islamic state in Iraq and Syria (and the Levant), and renamed itself DAESH (Dawla Islamiyya fi Iraq wa a-Sham), or ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and a-Sham, which is the name of Greater Syria in Arabic). It has entered Syria from the western side and has made some serious gains. They are known for being the most extremist Islamist group that have ever made such achievments (even more than the Taliban).
Eventually the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (obviously a false name, Abu-Bakr was the first Caliph) decide he wants more, and declared Jabhat a-Nusra is now a part of ISIS. That statement was made without Jabhat a-Nusra's leader, al-Jawlani (meaning: from the Golan Heights) agreement, and thus a conflict began between those organizations. Al-Qaeda leadership chose to distance itself from ISIS, and declared that Jabhat a-Nusra is the only legit Al-Qaeda branch in Syria.
And recently, ISIS began fighting in Western Iraq, making very serious gains. That is because the Iraqi army is basically gak. The Americans didn't build an efficient army, and didn't under the sociology behind making a proper army.
Thus, it is not surpring it's collapsing. Now, since Iraq is basically a Shiite state, it's Iran's best interest to aid it. That's why there are many reports of IRGC troops fighting near Baghdad.
Who's behind all this? It's known that Qatar, Saudi Arabia and other states have supported and financed the Syria opposition and especially the Islamist elements in it, like Jabhat a-Nusra and Jabha al-Islamiyya, but are they also supporting ISIS? Someone must be behind them, because much financing, ammunition and weaponry are needed to make such an organization so powerful.
There are also claims that ISIS is an Iranian-Syrian plot to rip the Sunni world apart, and don't forget that so far ISIS has killed much more Sunnies than Shiites - but that still seems very far-fetched."
5) ???????
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Kain wrote: Hope feeds Tzeentch, who will do horrible things to your planet to reward you for your service. Ergo, Hope is evil, and you should stop having it, but you can't have despair because then Nurgle gets a free ride. You could be angry about this, but that'd just get Khorne's jollies off. And heck you can't even get your own jollies off without Slaanesh giggling and farting out some daemons. And if you manage to avoid all that, some genestealers might infiltrate your planet and bring a hive fleet crashing down on you any way.
That's BS. (Not that I would expect high quality journalism from CNN.)
Al Qaeda didn't all of a sudden discover its touchy-feely side, but ISIL ran afoul of al Nusra when Baghdadi decided he'd rather be a competent warlord than a mediocre terrorist. After locking horns with al Qaeda's golden boys of the al Nusra Front over zones of influence, Baghdadi decided he needed neither Zawahiri nor al Nusra, which is being bled dry by Assad's forces.
ISIL now claims authority over Iraq and the Levant, meaning NOT only modern Syria, but also Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine and Israel.
Oaka wrote: It's getting to the point where if I see Marneus Calgar and the Swarmlord in the same unit as a Riptide, I probably won't question its legality.
d-usa wrote: "You told us to feth off, so we fethed off. Now you feth off."
Can't really say I disagree too much there.
Not disagreeing too much here.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Does anyone else find it strange that the only DAESH units wearing proper combat uniform are the death squads going around and executing Iraqi army leadership?
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Kain wrote: Hope feeds Tzeentch, who will do horrible things to your planet to reward you for your service. Ergo, Hope is evil, and you should stop having it, but you can't have despair because then Nurgle gets a free ride. You could be angry about this, but that'd just get Khorne's jollies off. And heck you can't even get your own jollies off without Slaanesh giggling and farting out some daemons. And if you manage to avoid all that, some genestealers might infiltrate your planet and bring a hive fleet crashing down on you any way.
DxM Scotty MxD wrote: Does anyone else find it strange that the only DAESH units wearing proper combat uniform are the death squads going around and executing Iraqi army leadership?
Not sure which pictures you're referring to. Usually, whenever they are in uniform, it's a press foto or video made by themselves.
Oaka wrote: It's getting to the point where if I see Marneus Calgar and the Swarmlord in the same unit as a Riptide, I probably won't question its legality.
Maybe higher if ISIS and whoever else takes over Government in Iraq
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RIP Muhammad Ali.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
DxM Scotty MxD wrote: Does anyone else find it strange that the only DAESH units wearing proper combat uniform are the death squads going around and executing Iraqi army leadership?
Not sure which pictures you're referring to. Usually, whenever they are in uniform, it's a press foto or video made by themselves.
I'd give you the source but I'm not sure it would fit with forum rules as it's a video that shows DAESH killing a LOT of people. Some executions, some fighting and a lot of IEDs destroying Iraqi army vehicles.
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Kain wrote: Hope feeds Tzeentch, who will do horrible things to your planet to reward you for your service. Ergo, Hope is evil, and you should stop having it, but you can't have despair because then Nurgle gets a free ride. You could be angry about this, but that'd just get Khorne's jollies off. And heck you can't even get your own jollies off without Slaanesh giggling and farting out some daemons. And if you manage to avoid all that, some genestealers might infiltrate your planet and bring a hive fleet crashing down on you any way.
Oaka wrote: It's getting to the point where if I see Marneus Calgar and the Swarmlord in the same unit as a Riptide, I probably won't question its legality.
Allod wrote: Well, without having seen it, that sounds like their typical fare. If it's one of theirs, it should have their logo.
Aye it's one of their vids. Still find it strange that death squads = combat gear and combatants = sheets with an AK and/or RPG.
Kain wrote: Hope feeds Tzeentch, who will do horrible things to your planet to reward you for your service. Ergo, Hope is evil, and you should stop having it, but you can't have despair because then Nurgle gets a free ride. You could be angry about this, but that'd just get Khorne's jollies off. And heck you can't even get your own jollies off without Slaanesh giggling and farting out some daemons. And if you manage to avoid all that, some genestealers might infiltrate your planet and bring a hive fleet crashing down on you any way.
Allod wrote: Well, without having seen it, that sounds like their typical fare. If it's one of theirs, it should have their logo.
Aye it's one of their vids. Still find it strange that death squads = combat gear and combatants = sheets with an AK and/or RPG.
For these guys, when they are expecting to die, they want to do so in their best and cleanest clothes. That's while you'll see many suicide bombers in their pearly whites and the like. One of the "flags" they teach us to watch for when over in that part of the world. Just a part of the culture over there I guess.
I think what you identify as "death squads" doesn't exist in this form and the reason they're wearing combat gear is that these executions are staged and meant to look orderly and professional.
Oaka wrote: It's getting to the point where if I see Marneus Calgar and the Swarmlord in the same unit as a Riptide, I probably won't question its legality.
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out of there and stay out. 
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