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It was rumored in the guardian that the Mosul army was ~30k strong [guardian now says its was 60k+ strong..] when the 800 strong force of ISIS took mosul without any significant conflict. Looting of the cities resources that Muirka left behind gave them significant amounts of heavy weapons and armored vehicles that were to be used by the military.

I recall there being speculation that the roughly $480million they looted from bases/banks/etc was possibly given to certain members of the Iraqi military to order their troops to stand down and back out. Since mosul their numbers have grown significantly.

There are reports that the Kurds still hold the dam but don't control the towns around it anymore.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/04/sunni-seize-iraqs-dam-defeat-kurdish

There were also reports that the Kurdish pesh-merga were trying to help the Yazidi-Kurds that are stuck in the mountains but ISIS was able to hold them off.

Kurdish Peshmurga troops, long regarded as a more formidable fighting force, had been defending Sinjar, but they too were forced to withdraw as Isis advanced. Kurdish officials say their forces were seriously outgunned by the jihadists, who were using heavy weapons looted from Iraqi bases.

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60,000? evidently that whole "its just a few crazies" thing is way off.

Apparently they have thousands of innocents trapped on a mountain. What kind of sick nutjob wants to kill men, women, and children? How are there 60,000 of them?

Uncap the atomics.

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Christian community there is in serious trouble from ISIS.

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So, wha tis the operational forces available to the ISIS? It seems to be changing all the time. Do we have any reliable ballpark numbers?

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 Easy E wrote:
So, wha tis the operational forces available to the ISIS? It seems to be changing all the time. Do we have any reliable ballpark numbers?


Enough to do the job and since they took Anaconda enough tactical equipment and vehicles to move quite effectively

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Air strikes are not going to stop them and if we do we be in the same boat as Israel

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 Frazzled wrote:
60,000? evidently that whole "its just a few crazies" thing is way off.

Apparently they have thousands of innocents trapped on a mountain. What kind of sick nutjob wants to kill men, women, and children? How are there 60,000 of them?

Uncap the atomics.


I apologize if my first statement wasnt clear, guardian updated the number of the iraqi mosul army that retreated from 30k to 60k. The ISIS forces that routed the Iraqi army in mosul were reported to be 800-1300 depending on source at the time of the intial "invasion"

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0LEVzjQwuNT7WkAl29XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByODJtaWUzBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--?qid=20140611193611AAjESj1

A significant portion of the people in Mosul and surrounding joined ISIS in a combatant capacity for various reasons afterwards.

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 Frazzled wrote:

What kind of sick nutjob wants to kill men, women, and children?


 Frazzled wrote:

Uncap the atomics.


Uhuh.

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blaktoof wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
60,000? evidently that whole "its just a few crazies" thing is way off.

Apparently they have thousands of innocents trapped on a mountain. What kind of sick nutjob wants to kill men, women, and children? How are there 60,000 of them?

Uncap the atomics.


I apologize if my first statement wasnt clear, guardian updated the number of the iraqi mosul army that retreated from 30k to 60k. The ISIS forces that routed the Iraqi army in mosul were reported to be 800-1300 depending on source at the time of the intial "invasion"

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0LEVzjQwuNT7WkAl29XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByODJtaWUzBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--?qid=20140611193611AAjESj1

A significant portion of the people in Mosul and surrounding joined ISIS in a combatant capacity for various reasons afterwards.


Ooo wow wait 1300 routed 30,000 who are these guys... Mongols
Or Does the "iraqi Army" just suck?

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 Frazzled wrote:
blaktoof wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
60,000? evidently that whole "its just a few crazies" thing is way off.

Apparently they have thousands of innocents trapped on a mountain. What kind of sick nutjob wants to kill men, women, and children? How are there 60,000 of them?

Uncap the atomics.


I apologize if my first statement wasnt clear, guardian updated the number of the iraqi mosul army that retreated from 30k to 60k. The ISIS forces that routed the Iraqi army in mosul were reported to be 800-1300 depending on source at the time of the intial "invasion"

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0LEVzjQwuNT7WkAl29XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByODJtaWUzBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--?qid=20140611193611AAjESj1

A significant portion of the people in Mosul and surrounding joined ISIS in a combatant capacity for various reasons afterwards.


Ooo wow wait 1300 routed 30,000 who are these guys... Mongols
Or Does the "iraqi Army" just suck?


They suck

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BREAKING: US official: US military begins humanitarian air drops for 1000s trapped in Iraqi mountains by ISIS - @MarthaRaddatz


Good.

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Turkish F16’s are reportedly also flying above ISIS-occupied territory, supposedly to monitor what’s going on. - Bloomberg

Precursor to bomb the feth out of ISIS' positions? It's probably in Turkey's best interest to ensure that the Kurds are still relevant in northern Iraq.

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Apparently, air strikes have now been authorized.

Well, "targeted" airstrikes, anyway.

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Good.

Let the Droning.. BEGIN!

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How long before the US allegedly blows up a school or hospital, and we're back to being the Great Satan?

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 Ouze wrote:
How long before the US allegedly blows up a school or hospital, and we're back to being the Great Satan?



I'm guessing ISIS will start making claims like that shortly after the air strikes begin in earnest. 48 hours, maybe?

   
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How long before the US allegedly blows up a school or hospital, and we're back to being the Great Satan?

We're already "The Great Satan".

So...

*meh*

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This also was one of the better Fark headlines today:

Obama announces new airstrikes on Iraq in a bid to distract the world from the release of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

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What's the back up plan if ISIS decides to go up the mountain?

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 MrDwhitey wrote:
They release the smallpox that's rampant...


You had your chance to see the AMR

Edit

As long as we don't have this happen.....

MAZAR-I-SHARIF, AFGHANISTAN - In a tragic accident earlier today, aircraft belonging to the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) inadvertently killed 51 Afghans near the city of Mazar-i-Sharif while attempting to drop candy to a group of children.

According to accounts from both Afghans and international observers, two NATO aircraft, later identified as American C-130s, made a low pass over a village of several hundred Afghans outside the city.

Approximately 1.4 million M&Ms were to be delivered via Container Delivery System in a single package with a weight of 1500 lbs. Due to a malfunction in the static line, the parachute failed to deploy and the container crashed through the roof of a local school at nearly 100 miles per hour.

Upon impact, the force of the rapidly settling candies caused the sides to explode outward, causing what physics professor Dr. Rosella Schwartz described as “essentially a 360 degree anti-personnel mine full of chocolate flechettes.”

By “flechettes,” Schwartz is referring to the M&Ms’ candy shells, which shattered and spalled upon entering the bodies of the victims and also caused more numerous and severe secondary injuries.

Dr. Manuel Velez of the Red Cross, one of the first medical personnel at the site of the impact, had a similar assessment of the candy shells’ damage.

“I’ve seen a lot of injuries inflicted on civilians by military ordnance, but this was much worse,” Velez said, stooping to change the bandages on one of the victims while pointing out the many blue, green, and yellow splotches.

“The worst were the peanut M&Ms. The soft chocolate acted as a sabot around the peanuts, so basically these things were candy-coated penetrator rounds.”

ISAF spokesperson Col. Mark Marshall, who spoke to reporters today at a press conference in Kabul, said the candy drop was only the latest phase of a new operation called “Reese’s for Peaces.” He added that while ISAF regrets the accidental loss of civilian life, it would not deter them working to relieve the suffering of the Afghan people.

Sources at ISAF headquarters in Kabul said the operation was first proposed by Deputy Commander Gen. Bill Whitehead as a way to help boost the morale of Afghans as western forces began their long-anticipated drawdown.

Whitehead said he first got the idea after reading a book about the 1948 Berlin Airlift. After finishing their cargo deliveries, American pilots would drop pieces of candy to impoverished children, which earned the United States a lot of good publicity.

“Counterinsurgency is all about winning the hearts and minds of the people,” said Whitehead, “and as we transition to a much smaller footprint, the Air Force is going to have to take on some of the roles traditionally filled by soldiers, such as handing out candy.”

In early March, Whitehead gave ISAF the authority to begin planning a series of humanitarian airdrops over population centers in Afghanistan. Operation “Reese’s for Peaces”, referred to informally as “Dessert Storm”, was launched two weeks later with MQ-9 Reapers dropping several tons of licorice on Kandahar.

Over the next few weeks, ISAF warplanes dropped tons of assorted chocolates, sweets, and even ice cream over the war-torn country. Other NATO countries also took part, with French planes dropping bon bons and German planes dropping Bavarian chocolate. The United States, however, is contributing the bulk of the candy being used in the operation.

The incident in Mazar-i-Sharif is unfortunately not the first setback for “Reese’s for Peaces.” Other blunders included a crate-load of Baby Ruth bars being dropped short of its target on March 19 and plowing into a bus full of madrassa students, killing 22. On April 27, several Snickers bars hit a wedding party near Kunduz, killing 35. And on May 8, several packs of Starbursts inadvertently hit an orphanage and killed 8 children and an adorable kitten named Mittens.

Following the press conference, Col. Marshall tried to exit the podium, but tripped and crashed into a group of civilians, killing 9.


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 Ouze wrote:
How long before the US allegedly blows up a school or hospital, and we're back to being the Great Satan?


67 hours?

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What's the back up plan if ISIS decides to go up the mountain?


Danger close missions? Put Spectre in a race track over the mountain?


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 Jihadin wrote:
 MrDwhitey wrote:
They release the smallpox that's rampant...


You had your chance to see the AMR

Edit

As long as we don't have this happen.....

MAZAR-I-SHARIF, AFGHANISTAN - In a tragic accident earlier today, aircraft belonging to the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) inadvertently killed 51 Afghans near the city of Mazar-i-Sharif while attempting to drop candy to a group of children.

According to accounts from both Afghans and international observers, two NATO aircraft, later identified as American C-130s, made a low pass over a village of several hundred Afghans outside the city.

Approximately 1.4 million M&Ms were to be delivered via Container Delivery System in a single package with a weight of 1500 lbs. Due to a malfunction in the static line, the parachute failed to deploy and the container crashed through the roof of a local school at nearly 100 miles per hour.

Upon impact, the force of the rapidly settling candies caused the sides to explode outward, causing what physics professor Dr. Rosella Schwartz described as “essentially a 360 degree anti-personnel mine full of chocolate flechettes.”

By “flechettes,” Schwartz is referring to the M&Ms’ candy shells, which shattered and spalled upon entering the bodies of the victims and also caused more numerous and severe secondary injuries.

Dr. Manuel Velez of the Red Cross, one of the first medical personnel at the site of the impact, had a similar assessment of the candy shells’ damage.

“I’ve seen a lot of injuries inflicted on civilians by military ordnance, but this was much worse,” Velez said, stooping to change the bandages on one of the victims while pointing out the many blue, green, and yellow splotches.

“The worst were the peanut M&Ms. The soft chocolate acted as a sabot around the peanuts, so basically these things were candy-coated penetrator rounds.”

ISAF spokesperson Col. Mark Marshall, who spoke to reporters today at a press conference in Kabul, said the candy drop was only the latest phase of a new operation called “Reese’s for Peaces.” He added that while ISAF regrets the accidental loss of civilian life, it would not deter them working to relieve the suffering of the Afghan people.

Sources at ISAF headquarters in Kabul said the operation was first proposed by Deputy Commander Gen. Bill Whitehead as a way to help boost the morale of Afghans as western forces began their long-anticipated drawdown.

Whitehead said he first got the idea after reading a book about the 1948 Berlin Airlift. After finishing their cargo deliveries, American pilots would drop pieces of candy to impoverished children, which earned the United States a lot of good publicity.

“Counterinsurgency is all about winning the hearts and minds of the people,” said Whitehead, “and as we transition to a much smaller footprint, the Air Force is going to have to take on some of the roles traditionally filled by soldiers, such as handing out candy.”

In early March, Whitehead gave ISAF the authority to begin planning a series of humanitarian airdrops over population centers in Afghanistan. Operation “Reese’s for Peaces”, referred to informally as “Dessert Storm”, was launched two weeks later with MQ-9 Reapers dropping several tons of licorice on Kandahar.

Over the next few weeks, ISAF warplanes dropped tons of assorted chocolates, sweets, and even ice cream over the war-torn country. Other NATO countries also took part, with French planes dropping bon bons and German planes dropping Bavarian chocolate. The United States, however, is contributing the bulk of the candy being used in the operation.

The incident in Mazar-i-Sharif is unfortunately not the first setback for “Reese’s for Peaces.” Other blunders included a crate-load of Baby Ruth bars being dropped short of its target on March 19 and plowing into a bus full of madrassa students, killing 22. On April 27, several Snickers bars hit a wedding party near Kunduz, killing 35. And on May 8, several packs of Starbursts inadvertently hit an orphanage and killed 8 children and an adorable kitten named Mittens.

Following the press conference, Col. Marshall tried to exit the podium, but tripped and crashed into a group of civilians, killing 9.




Thats funny but I could actually see it happening. Wierder has happened.


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Does that mean we are aligned with the Kurds? How does the Iraqi Prime Minister feel about what we are doing?

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Does that mean we are aligned with the Kurds? How does the Iraqi Prime Minister feel about what we are doing?



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Except he is still backe by a large Shia Majority int he region, and our stated policy is NOT the three state solution but a single state one. That's why it kind of matters.

Plus, Kurds and Turkey are both are friends? Is such a thing "unpossible"?

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Plus, Kurds and Turkey are both are friends? Is such a thing "unpossible"?



They are now, as Turkey views the Kurds as a "strategic ally" at this point, with the Islamic State (formerly ISIS) running roughshod over everyone else in the region.
   
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